I'm Very Worried About My Son?

Updated on October 15, 2013
J.B. asks from Hyde Park, MA
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He has always been a good kid, I've never had difficulties with his behaviour or his attitude, he is twenty six years old now and two years ago he quit his job in Manhattan, moved out of his apartment and bought a house in suburban Bangor, New England (apparently close to Stephen King's) I was worried at first because I thought he had just thrown everything out of the window, but he published two books of short stories, setup a popular website and managed to setup a high paying internet Marketing business (even though he barely knows anything about marketing)

I was quite happy with it all until about a year ago, he has become very neurotic and he is becoming a massive recluse, he does all his business and his shopping and errands online so he practically never has to leave the house or talk to people, he is not in contact with his childhood friends or his university friends, apart from about 3 who he Facebook messages from time to time, not only that but he has become so fastidious about his house and his possessions, the place can never be messy and he hates breaking his routine, also he never gets out apart from going on a daily run or a few walks a day when he takes pictures or goes out to draw the countryside, sometimes he is like Holden Caulfield, he seems to have an absolute hatred for people and society in general and he has refused to visit people he knew in Manhattan and apparently he has gone to efforts to avoid communicating with people and I have heard people on his street talk about how he is the local recluse (in a joking manner)

It is that sort of thing and I am really concerned with it, he has always been an introvert but is it healthy to go full on recluse the way he has, it may be worth noting that his childhood was not very easy, his father was always mean and demanding off him and me (always getting angry when he did not complete a task properly or teasing him for getting a poor grade) and when I did leave his father we had a really tough time of it, living in horrible, cheap apartments and sometimes even going homeless, by the time he was 14 though we managed to set ourselves up stably, but it must have had some effect on him, to go through that at a young age, it may also be worth noting he said that he always felt the kids at his high school were mean to him because he was bad at sports and was only an average student and he always had trouble coping with high pressure situations (maybe why he left Manhattan)

So if anyone could offer some advice or explanation that would be great, many thanks.

For the record, I know it sounds it, but I am really not all that overbearing, he has always been allowed space, the stuff I have posted is what he himself has told me or just what I have noticed from visiting him and I have never pushed him about his grades or his work or anything like that, but obviously I'm going to worry, that's what mothers do.

For crying out loud I am not trying to control him and if you read properly I am happy with his choices, I am simply worried if his more recent reclusiveness could be harmful and if it may be caused by some of the harder times he went through when he was young, seriously!

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So What Happened?

First of all to the person who accused me of thinking he was insane for moving to Maine, you clearly did not read this properly, I actually supported that move and I really love Maine, everyone seems really nice and the place is beautiful I was just surprised by it.

apart from that I actually went down to visit him early this morning (I'm staying over night, I'm using my laptop now) and all my concerns have died, he is staying healthy and presentable and we talked over all my concerns earlier and basically when he was in Manhattan he had a nasty panic attack when he fell behind with his work and then decided that this was not the life for him, which is why he moved to Bangor, as for his reclusive ways, he just said that he finds it easier to be like that (so we can't argue with that) apart from that though he is fine, for the record though he is nothing like his father who was brutish and violent and always looking for a fight, he is very mellow and laid back and easy going, also he always treats people with respect so we don't have to worry about that.

Thanks to everyone who posted a respectful, helpful answer, I really appreciate it.

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L.U.

answers from Seattle on

Well, if he was a "recluse" he wouldn't be going on a daily walk or a run a few times a day.
I don't talk with anyone from highschool either.
My brother does all of his shopping online too, he hates big crowds. It probably is much easier!
I don't think you sound like you are trying to control him, I just think that you may be worried over nothing.
If he stopped taking walks, stopped talking with you, and COMPLETELY shut him self off from others THEN I would be worried.
Right now I would just let him be. Maybe, if he is close enough to you, take a walk with him.
L.

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B.C.

answers from Norfolk on

He's an adult.
It's worrying but this is how he chooses to live his life.
He has a career, he pays his bills, he's hurting no one.
He exercises, he's into photography, he draws and goes out into the country side.
A lot of people are not in touch with childhood friends.
It's not likely you are going to have grandchildren but what would you really like to happen here?
Until he sees his behavior as a problem, he's not going to do anything to change it and although it might seem somewhat extreme I'm not sure there's anything completely wrong with being a recluse.
Do not blame yourself or your divorce.
Keep communications light and open.

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M.R.

answers from St. Louis on

I wish I had a bunch of wisdom to share here on the actual subject but instead I have to be totally flabbergasted at the way moms on here bash you and call you "overbearing" just because you know so much about your son and the life he leads. What the heck? Just because a kid turns 18 and is now an adult doesn't mean you push them out the door, out of your life and say "to hell with it all and I'm going to stop caring about you now!" Just because a mother is very close with their kids...of any age....doesn't make that mother an overbearing helicopter.
Involved, yes. Pays attention, sure. Needs therapy because they still know their own kids inside and out....NOPE! Don't listen to that, J.. To me, it's rude and out of line. So, you know a lot about your older son....whoop-dee-doo.....it doesn't make you a lunatic or someone with an obsessive disorder. Heck, if one of my older kids pretty much up and left a big city and started distancing himself from the world, I would know and I would wonder what the sudden change was all about too. So, I guess I'm in need of mental therapy for obsessive behavior? WRONG!
Your son may be falling into a depression or be suffering from newly developed anxiety issues or even a phobia of some sort that has to do with being in and around people, crowds, or in a group setting. He could be agoraphobic or have tendencies. Whatever it is, if he was a social butterfly and has suddenly turned introverted and mad at the world....something is up. Kudos to you for seeing this. Just because our kids leave the nest and make a life for themselves doesn't mean they want us to disappear and never get involved in their lives on a personal level. Balance is the key here. I don't take you for a looney-tune, I take you as a concerned parent. 26 or not, if this guy really has a problem and needs help, he will be lucky that you noticed!

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R.M.

answers from Cumberland on

you don't sound overbearing-just concerned-try talking to him about your observations, maybe that will stir up something ; perhaps he just doesn't realize his transformation. All the best!

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M.R.

answers from Seattle on

J., so sorry to hear about the current condition of your son and his not so positive life choices.

With that said, given the excruciating amount of detail you know about his personal life, I would venture to say that there is some very obsessive-compulsive personality traits that run in your family. I think it is weird both in how much you know and how much you interpret or misinterpret him.

Have you ever had a safe, non-judgemental relationship with him, where you were not concerned, and worried, and bothered by his successes (or failures)? Have you discussed the negative impacts of your life on his psyche now?

Between an overbearing mom, and an absent, mean spirited father and being bullied in school, and trying to succeed amongst the sharks in New York, your son seems to have never been allowed any personal space for being just OK. For just being normal, go with the flow, make a mistake and carry on.

You sound like you need some serious therapy to learn how to be a better mom of an adult child, who is regressing rapidly.

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S.E.

answers from Wichita Falls on

Talk to a psychiatrist about your concerns. He should be able to tell you the difference between healthy but introverted behavior and when it has become something to worry about. If there is something to worry about, he should be able to guide you to resources to help.

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C.O.

answers from Washington DC on

Welcome to mamapedia, J.!!

Your son is an adult. Unless he's a danger to himself or society - there's not much you can do.

He's got a job. He's doing things - and he's not asking you for money to support his way of life, right?

Does he sound obsessive/compulsive? (OCD) Yes. But it's not hurting himself or anyone around him, right?

Why do you feel the need to control him? Or dictate how his life SHOULD be? It's HIS life. So you need to let him be an adult and himself. You can tell him your concerns and ask him to see a doctor about it - but otherwise? He's an adult. He is making his own choices.

Bangor, Maine is BEAUTIFUL! So what if he changed his lifestyle?!?!.

And why exactly is this your fault? STOP trying to be a martyr and make this about you. Your ADULT son has made choices in his life. Those are HIS choices...did his upbringing affect his decisions? MAYBE. But they didn't dictate it. So please. Let him be an adult. Unless he's a danger to himself or society. Continue to love and support him.

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P.K.

answers from New York on

Sounds like he is doing well and enjoying the quiet New England life! This makes him happy. He gets out a few times a day, he is I to photography and drawing. God what a great life. You said he has always been an introvert. He has chosen a nice quiet life. Let him enjoy it.

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answers from Miami on

Please don't worry about the remarks about you being overbearing and all of that. You actually are a very good writer and pack a lot of info in a short essay.

Mothers know a great deal about their kids' personalities. Mothers EVERYWHERE push their kids about their grades - the reason you didn't, obviously, is because your husband did it in a terrible way.

The reason you're posting here is to try to get advice from strangers so that you don't have to talk to people you know. There's nothing wrong with that either.

It seems to me that your son is finally being true to himself by accepting his introvert nature, having left Manhattan and the work and life there that he didn't enjoy. Yes, his childhood probably has something to do with this, especially considering that he is living like his father pushed him to be, now as an adult.

But, there is nothing you can do about this now. He will have to come to terms with finding a balance in his life. If he doesn't, he will live alone and most likely like it.

Look at it this way, J.. If he were to marry someone and treat them like your husband treated you, that would be really bad. ESPECIALLY if he had a child. Perhaps it's better if he doesn't marry so he doesn't put people through what he was put through as a child.

You can talk to him about it and see what he says. And then you kind of have to let it go. Just be supportive where you can be, but remember that he's an adult now and on his own.

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E.E.

answers from Denver on

If he goes for walks and runs errands and communicates with you an others, regardless of how, he's probably fine. His life sounds really nice to me.

Go back and read what you wrote and try to imagine you are not his mother. Doesn't this read EXACTLY like the early life of a creative genius? If he weren't your son, and you weren't worried, wouldn't you want to know what he'd accomplish next? Wouldn't he sounds like the Great American Writer?

Bukowski had a Mom too. It sounds like your son is giving you a lot less to worry about than he did his.

*hugs*

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L.R.

answers from Washington DC on

The fact that what you post is based on what he, himself, has voluntarily told you is a hopeful sign. That means he's aware that he is somewhat reclusive, and aware that to others he seems to have cut himself off. If he were doing these things and denying them or insisting too hard that he was just dandy, then that would be worse. As it is, he is telling you about this, and that is good; if he cut off communication with you, or refused to answer any questions ever, that would be far worse. Work to keep those lines of communication open without pressuring him. You might see a counselor, yourself, to get some ideas about how best to talk with your son and approach him about whether HE thinks he would want to see a counselor. I think you might want to lay out for a professional what you laid out for us here, and get that person's advice before suggesting counseling or therapy to your son; if you go about it wrong, he could feel too pressured and could back away from talking with you as freely.

Is there any chance that, since he does tell you these things, that he is somewhat jokey about it but because you're his mom and worried, you don't hear it that way? Perhaps he isn't really quite the recluse he paints himself to be? He may be cultivating a public persona in his little town, actually courting the image of writer/loner/town recluse/curmudgeon. Writers and creative people do sometimes build their own "I do my own thing" images so that they'll be left alone to work as they like. Is that at all possible here? Just something to consider.

The most troubling thing to me is when you say he goes through periods of hating "people and society in general." That could range from normal irritation that passes quickly, all the way up to to serious depression or anger issues. But it's impossible to tell from the post and it might not be possible for you to tell either, based just on what he says. If your relationship with him is strong enough, you can ask him what he means if he says he hates X or Y person or situation. If your relationship is not that strong or you fear upsetting him -- see the thought above, about getting some outside advice from a professional (which we aren't, here).

Sorry some are saying you're trying to control him. I don't get that from your post. I do think you are blaming yourself and your divorce and the hard life you both had -- don't do that. It was what it was and can't be changed. Others have lived tough lives too but don't become reclusive because of it.

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C.V.

answers from Columbia on

He's a 26 year old introverted published author. That's success. I'd love to be in that position.

I don't think you need to worry. I think you need to show your pride in him and quit expecting him to do what others do. He's always been an introvert. This shouldn't shock you.

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B..

answers from Dallas on

You could read, Unmasking Male Depression. It might shed light, one way or another.

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S.D.

answers from Burlington on

Wow, moving from a high-paced, busy city like Manhattan to a slower, more laid-back location like rural Maine, means you're mentally ill? Maybe even to the extent of being committed?? I bet there are a few Mainers on here that'd be offended to hear that. He sounds like someone who got tired of the rat race and found a more ideal lifestyle for himself. He gets out when he needs to. He keeps his house neat. He still communicates when he needs to. Maybe he doesn't keep in touch with his Manhattan "friends" because they represent a lifestyle he doesn't care for and weren't real friends. I do a lot of my shopping online, too. It's more convenient. I don't keep in touch with too many childhood friends and am not glued to Facebook. Writers spend a lot of time holed up in a room by themselves, thinking and writing. It does not mean they are recluses or mentally ill. I think you are concerned (and not overbearing) and should continue to be a part of his life, but I think he sounds perfectly normal and (gasp!) happy!

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S.B.

answers from Houston on

I think you are genuinely concerned for your son. Have you discussed your concerns with him?

He may really enjoy the quiet life. This may be how he deals with his childhood. He has a stable home, quiet job where he is the boss. He does get out on daily walks and runs.

I would keep an eye out and if he just stops getting out of the house at all, then I would suggest a physical with his doctor.

I don't see you as overbearing. Just because our kids grow up doesn't mean we stop being Moms.

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O.O.

answers from Los Angeles on

OCD is an anxiety disorder and a form of mental illness.
He may not be "hurting anyone" or asking anyone for money, but any mental illness, left untreated will intensify and become worse and worse.
Help is out there for him WHEN and IF he seeks it.
Have you talked to him about his anxiety?
Good luck.

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G.B.

answers from Oklahoma City on

Some people that have normal childhoods and good college years will suddenly change in their early 20's. It's often a psychotic break and mental illness becomes something they have to live with the rest of their lives.

I suggest you research some mental illnesses that follow along the lines of schizophrenia, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, Compulsive Personality Disorder, and maybe some others you'll come across.

It truly sounds like he's had some sort of mental break. He's able to function in his own way but he's likely not going to be able to work full time in a challenging career or live a more normal life like before.

If you have the opportunity go spend some time with him to see if you see any signs he's not doing okay in his own way of coping with life. If he's not bathing, growing his nails out to great lengths, etc....then he may need you to call and have him committed. Then he can get on some medication that might help him come out of this a bit. He'll never be the same as he was before but if he has had some mental break he may need meds to function better and then again, he may be doing okay, just not exactly how you want him to be.

If you ever watched ER the TV show you might have seen an episode where Lucy died and Dr. Carter got stabbed in his kidneys. The character who did these things had a psychotic break. His was serious and the bad way. But it goes to show how a person can be totally normal then suddenly become different.

I think your son is okay. If he wasn't you'd hear more about his bizarre behaviors.

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S.N.

answers from Chicago on

He sounds like he has had difficult relationships in the past with peers and his father. He may find it easier to withdraw than to put effort into communicating. Has he ever received counseling for these past issues? Would he be open to the idea now?

On the positive side, he is currently functional and working, making a living. The behavioral changes you see are, of course, cause for alarm by any devoted mother. He may have Obsessive Compulsive disorder and/ or other mental health issues that are treatable if he chooses.

You can also choose to work with a counselor yourself on this difficult issue in your life. I feel your concern is appropriate and that you do not seem overbearing. Kids are your kids for life, no matter what the age! Unfortunately, at his age you can't force him to get help unless he is a threat to himself or others.

I would be equally concerned and I think some of the answers given were pretty harsh and off base.

I hope your son does well and is happy. I know that's what you want for him.

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