7Yr Mouthy and Doesn't Listen

Updated on February 03, 2011
B.G. asks from Mechanicsburg, PA
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Hello Moms,
We have a daughter who is 7.5 yrs old and a son that is 22m. Our daughter was a great child and we had very few problems with her before our son was born. Prior to our son being conceived, she asked for about 2yrs. for a sibling. So she really wanted a brother/sister. As soon as I went into the hospital to have our son, the bad behavior started almost instantly. Yes, she was very very jealous and was not used to sharing attention since she was an only child for a little over 5yrs. But you would think after 22m she would have gotten over it. Don't get me wrong, she loves her brother and enjoys playing with him but she is constantly doing things, bad things, to get attention. She is constantly trying to get attention, even if it is bad attention. She is def. not deprived in any way. My children are only grandchildren and great grandchildren on both sides.
She is in 2nd grade now. Her smart mouth has only gotten worse. We will have to ask her many many times to do anything. And she argues about everything. Her and my husband are constantly fighting. He wants and expects her to listen all the time and it drives him crazy. He does loose his temper frequently and yells a lot. It didn't use to be like this but he has just lost all paitence with her. I have as well, but try to control myself because I know he can be so mean sometimes. Not saying I don't loose my paitence, because I def. do as well sometimes. But anyway, I am hoping that other moms who have been in this similar situation can give me some advise on how to deal with a 7yr old that just will not listen, argues and is mouthy all the time. We have tried chore charts, rewards positive reinforcement and nothing seems to be working. Oh and chores are a constant argument as well. And yes, my husband is the biological father to both our children and it was both our decision to wait 5yrs to have our 2nd child. Thanks so much for all your suggestions and help.

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M.P.

answers from Philadelphia on

I have a similar situation. My daughter is 6 and my son is 3 months. We have just started at Super Nanny idea. The 3 of us sat down and made some house rules. We included my daughter in the process. Then we got a medium sized jar and some cotton balls. We explained that if she follows the rules she gets a cotton ball and if she doesn't follow the rules or breaks a rule she does not get a cotton ball. Then we proceeded to explain that once the jar is full, there will be a reward. I let my daughter with some guidance come up with the rewards. They are things, like going to Friendly's for lunch or a trip to the Library or movie night. Once she has filled the jar, she can then pick a from a hat one of the rewards. The cotton balls allow her to see and track her progress. If she wants a reward badly enough then maybe she will work on her behavior. Our rules include, making her bed, cleaning her room, getting a shower, eating her dinner within a 30 minute window, no yelling etc. I find that she is excited about the idea. Especially since, she came up with the rewards. Oh and our rewards do not include any toys.

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A.J.

answers from Williamsport on

I don't see any discipline here since you just mention charts and positive reinforcement (huge power trip creators in difficult kids). She should never get away with arguing about chores, or uttering a rude word to a parent much less and entire rude sentence without someone intervening at the first eye roll, smirk or sign of one attempt at a rude word baby or no baby. Sounds like she's using pity to get over on you.

If she has succeeded in getting everyone mad and yelling and not having any consequences of her own worth avoiding, this is how she is forming her behavior. Kids who arent' allowed to do this, don't do this.
QUICK-she'll be a teenager soon
www.backtobasicsdiscipline.com

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P.M.

answers from Harrisburg on

I'm with Amy. You reward the good behavior, and that's good, but what are you doing to discourage the bad behavior? I'm thinking she needs some consequences. You should know what would work best for your child. Mine would lose privileges for the behaviors you have described...could range from going to bed early, to not being able to have friends over, to extra chores, to loss of electronics (computer, video games and/or tv). A 7 year old should be listening all the time so your husband does not have unrealistic expectations. However, his yelling will not help the situation. He is the adult and needs to have his own temper under control.

One day, when things are calm at your house.
1. Set up the rules - it helps to have them in writing
2. Set up the consequences for poor behavior and rewards for good behavior. There should be no surprises then when the behavior occurs. If A...then B...
3. CONSISTENTLY enforce the rules.
4. Love your daughter - all the time - even when she's driving you crazy. :)

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C.V.

answers from Los Angeles on

Gosh your situation sounds similar to mine. You almost described my husband and 10 yr old exactly. I have an almost 2 yr old but the older one has never been jealous thank God. But if I remember correctly that's about the age she started getting mouthy and sassy and forgive me for saying it, but it only gets worse:(
I have tried taking thinks away not much seems to work she is very stubborn and wants to negotiate everything. The things that have the most impact are taking away tv, mp3 player, and sometimes the punishment is me picking her outfits for school. Of course this includes straight leg or flair out jeans (she hates them both you know how kids only wear skinny jeans now lol) and shirts she normally won't wear. Your daughter might still be a lil young for that one I think they really start to care about their clothes around 9 or 10? Anyhow those are the only things that remotely work, oh and writing sentences. Preferably in handwriting. I have made her write 30-50 sentences depending on the crime and she has hated it!
Also try the book 'How to talk so kids will listen and listen so kids will talk'. It has some good tips in it. Hope this helps..good luck, hopefully they grow out of it. I don't know what else to do either!

M.L.

answers from Houston on

Dr Sears has expert advice that ranges from infants all the way on up to older children. I really think he has some advice that would work for you, especially the "how to talk to kids so they will listen" and those articles. I have his book, but a lot of it is on his website right here:

http://www.askdrsears.com/html/6/T060100.asp

S.L.

answers from New York on

Start with being sure you're giving her the attention she craves/ after the baby goes to bed, spend a half hour one o one with her reading and talking. You and your husband take turns taking her for little outings just two of you. Do not tie these into behavior she doesn't have to earn parental attention. Read books about sibling rivalry and try to get discussions started about the books. at the same time be very strict time out when she misbehaves or is mouthy -time out and or no tv

D.S.

answers from Allentown on

Hi, B.:
Is there some way that whomever is having the difficulty with your daughter at the time (you or your husband), take a deep breath and
change roles from being a parent to being a reporter.

Start asking questions to understand what is her problem.
If either you or your husband use counter aggression, you will lose every time.
You all are in control. If you stop and ask questions to find out who, what, when, where, how much, then you all are in control.
If you use counter aggression, she is then in control
Just a thought.
D.
Resource: www.iirp.org

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