3 Yr Olds and the Word NO

Updated on April 13, 2011
V.D. asks from Smithfield, UT
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My little girls was the most super sweet 2 yr old in the world. It wasn't until she hit 3 yr and 3 months when the "terrible 2's" hit. Now all she does is say NO to everything. Getting dressed in the morning, getting into Pajamas, eating any meal, doing her hair, and even activities have become a nightmare. When it comes to privileges I just don't do them, but for things that have to be done because we have to get ready and leave in the morning I try to reason (doesn't work with little ones), try the authority method ( I'm the mother and I say we have to get ready), and then the dreaded pick her up and help her get dressed (which turns into a full out tantrum). Bed time used to be enjoyable. We'd get into pj's brush teeth, read a book, say prayers, and tuck into bed. Now I dread bedtime. By the time I get her into bed I'm exhausted and ready to crash myself even though I have a couple of hours before I head off to bead. She never eats at any formal meal (and it's not do to too many snacks). I do give her snacks, but they are given on a schedule so not to make her too full for meals. She's apparently voicing her independence, but how do you make it through this time? The only form of discipline I use is time outs in her room. Though some days I don't feel that they are doing any good. I'm consistent and try to show no emotion, but there are days that I'm so emotionally spent that it's hard to keep going. My husband is full time student and works full time and there are days like today that we don't get to see him at all. My question is how do you get through this stage? And what has worked for you with your 2 and 3 yr olds? Help I need some advice.

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S.H.

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Don't argue or debate when they say No.

Tis' the age.
3 is hard.
It passes, then new phases comes up.
developmental.

At this age, don't only use 'punishments'... you need to start to teach them the why's and how come's to things. My kids, from that age and from about 2 years old, 'needed' to KNOW... the logic and reasons to things.
So that in time, they gain the skills to 'discern' behavior... and so that, even if out of the home, they can then navigate themselves and their behavior, even if you are not there. ie: when they are in school for example.

Just using punishments alone, will not teach them these skills.

all the best,
Susan

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By the time littles start using the word "NO!" with a sense of authority, they have heard it about a million times and have been impressed with its power. While this stage is more or less inevitable, one of the best ways to minimize it is to find alternatives yourself to saying no to the child. Instead of "No, don't do that," look for creative ways to say "Hey, try this!"

Examples: "No, you can't go down the slide again," becomes "Can you hop on one foot like this?" "No cookie now, it's almost dinner time," becomes "Let's decide which kind of cookie you want to have for dessert. We'll put it right here where you can see it. This one is yours right after dinner!" "No more play, it's time for your bath," becomes "Hey, let's go teach your rubber ducky how to swim!"

It's a bit challenging to notice yourself about to say no and find an alternative, but it can be very effective. Likewise, you can find positive or playful ways to reframe other situations, as well: "Why don't you show me how YOU would like your hair styled today?" (and then "help" her). Or, "Oh dear, I just saw the Tooth Grunge Critter peeking out of your mouth. Quick, let's go get The Weapon and brush him outta there!"

This tactic won't always work, and sometimes you'll still have to try a variety of strategies, but bear in mind that a 3yo is endlessly subjected to the will and scheduling needs of her parents, has very little impulse control yet, and play is her legitimate job (it's how she reinforces everything from language to social structure to motor skills). The busyness of modern life tends to cut into children's play time in ways that they find horribly frustrating, and then they are less able to find any willingness to cooperate.

Here's my list of favorite techniques for making life with a toddler happier for all:

1. Trust that she is not "trying" to be naughty. Children don't really want to cause problems or get in trouble if they have any other way at all to meet their own growing need for autonomy, independence, and control of their circumstances.

2. Adults have the practice and self-control to make most of life meet our grownup expectations. Your toddler doesn't know any of that yet, and it will be a while before she sees very much from your point of view. As exasperating as that is for you, she can't help it. It's just reality, and reality is easier to take if you can accept it.

3. Digging in heels and tantrums are a natural outcome of becoming more frustrated than the child is able to endure. This "new" behavior may seem to come out of the blue. The stress of travel and changing schedules, or illness, or any major change, may contribute.

4. When she wants something, empathize. Big time, and in the child's language. I love the advice of Dr. Harvey Karp on how to get on a tantruming toddler's wavelength in this and several related videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6KnVPUdEgQ&feature=re... . Once your little girl realizes you do care about what she wants, she's more likely to be able to calm down and cooperate with what you need from her. And there are lots of positive ways to approach this, rather than just saying no. They hear no so often, and they can be so frustrated by it. And they learn to tune it out. So look for ways of finding a mutual "yes," as in "Here, play with this," or "Can you hop over to me like a bunny?" instead of "No, don't touch that," or "Stop that and come here right now!" Save "no" for those occasions when children are trying something dangerous.

5. Keep it playful. Children learn primarily through play. You may need help with this if your parents didn't model a lighthearted and cheerful approach when you were little. The book Playful Parenting is a great resource. Your daughter's sense of humor is developing, and you'll both be happier if you can nurture that. (Also be aware that some "behaviors," like throwing, are a natural experimental activity for kids, a form of play that is programmed into them for the purpose of developing brain/body connections. Find plenty of "acceptable" play outlets for those repeating behaviors.)

6. There will also be times when you must have her cooperation, like diapering or trips to the store, so keep a special toy that she gets to play with only at those times or keep her as playfully engaged in the process as possible. This often requires creativity, because each child is different.

7. Here's a big one: give advance notice when you'll want her to be doing anything differently, especially when she's grooving on her activity/play. All children absolutely hate unexpected transitions (and so do most adults). With my grandson, we let him know at least a couple of times that a change is coming ("We're going to go to the store / have lunch / take a nap pretty soon." … and then a second alert one minute before making the change.)

8. Whatever the next activity is, make it sound as desirable as possible. Give some detail about the ride in the car, or a favorite food at lunch, or sweet snuggles before nap. Be positive and enthusiastic. Be calm. Be "as inevitable as the tides." Desperation will show, and even though she's too young to deliberately plan a power struggle, she will quite naturally sense any cracks in your resolve in an attempt to meet her own emotional needs. And this is where future power struggles truly can begin.

9. Try to keep demands low when she's tired, over-managed, hungry, or sick. An already frustrated child doesn't have any emotional reserves left with which to cooperate.

10. Get to know her most likely trouble-spots, and plan ahead. For many kids, it's when they want some tempting object or food they've seen. So keep those things out of sight when possible. Baby-proof your home. Be prepared with a distraction – for example, another toy she likes when you have to take something away from her, or a healthy treat when she wants a sugary snack. Laughter, introducing a new game, a few twirls and bounces, hugs or tickles, a goofy song, can help break into her determination to get something she wants (that short attention span is both a curse and a blessing).

11. Avoid bribes, but let her work toward occasional rewards. Don't try to buy cooperation with "IF you'll do X, we'll let you have Y." Instead, phrase it as if she gets to assist in advancing something good for herself: "Hey, as soon as you help me get X done, then we get to do Y." It sounds like a small distinction, but it's important. It gives the child a chance to cooperate in what feels like choice, even when there's no "if" about it.

12. Be sure she gets lots and lots of physical activity during the day. Time outdoors in nature is calming for most children. If she has pent-up energy, it will have to come out some way, and unless channeled in a positive direction, it will likely to add to both your stress and hers.

13. Whatever you are trying to teach will need to be repeated hundreds of times over the next few years. That's completely normal. Attention spans and impulse control are extremely limited in toddlers. Look at your parenting contract, and you'll find it in tiny print under "I agree to the following terms and sacrifices."

14. Spanking and time-outs don't work for every kid, and will sometimes actually backfire over time. Especially with spanking: children may be scared, shocked, or shamed into cooperating, but behaving for the sake of avoiding pain isn't the same thing as developing an internalized sense of "good." Consistent, calm guidance and demonstrations of what you DO want from her will work better in the long run than punishing for what you DON'T want her to do. See more on this by googling The Science of Parenting or Emotion Coaching.

15. Pay attention to what you love and appreciate about your daughter, and make sure she knows. Remind yourself to do this even when you're tired or busy. Children seek attention and approval, and if she knows you're noticing her good moments, she'll try to create more of them. If she doesn't get that positive notice from you, she'll seek attention in other ways, and that often turns out to be misbehavior, because you notice it.

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Try saying yes. And try getting her to see you are on the same team. For us (DS is 5 now) that meant -

1. Make it a game. Or a race. Wow, I bet I can get to the bathroom to start brushing teeth before you can. Boy, I bet I can count to 10 before we can get your shirt on (yes, you have to let her win most of the time).

2. Give her two positive choices (more is confusing). So for us instead of DS, it's time to get dressed, it was - would you like to wear the blue shirt or the yellow shirt?

3. Let her decide as much as possible. If it doesn't really matter to you (and an awful lot of things just aren't that important) let her have some power over her environment. So DS got to decide things like whether to read a book now or later, whether to clean up his room before or after lunch, etc.

4. Do it together.

5. Avoid the yes/no question unless no is an acceptable answer to you.

6. The time warning (this should probably be number 1). I give a 5 minute warning before we do something, and then a 1 minute warning. Toddlers get very engrossed in what they are doing and do not see that what we want to suddenly (to them) do is more important than what they are already doing. It helps to get down on her level, get her attention (touch her arm and make eye contact) when you give a time warning.

7. If eating meals together is important to you (it is to us and DS has sat at the table for meals since he could sit up in his high chair), I would just start doing it.

8. Say yes a lot. Instead of no, we can't go the park now, we have to clean up, say, yes we can go to the park just as soon as we get your room cleaned up together. Now, should we start with the stuffed animals or the blocks.

And remember, if you're not happy with how it goes today, there's always tomorrow.

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J.S.

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My daughter doesn't tell me "no" because she knows she will get a spanking. I've posted about spankings before and how since she was 2 I've given her only a handful of spankings (5 not 10) - she's now 3 1/2. I don't do it out of anger, I warn her ahead of time and in actuality it hurts me more than it hurts her. 98% of the time my daughter is awesome (and I'm not just saying that). Normally she can tell by the tone of my voice and these days even a look that she had better listen. Spanking is the last resort and as I’ve mentioned – rarely given. I’ve never given her time out. I do let her have alone time if she gets upset about something and then we talk about it.

Also – funny thing, her uncle asked me the other day “what do we do to get her to nap and go to sleep so well” as he has a daughter 5 months older than ours. I told him that I tell her what to expect… for example, “sweetie, you can visit with so and so for a few minutes or we can read a book, but when it’s bedtime then you need to go to bed okay?” I do that with everything. I’m exactly sure why it works but it does with her. I also try to give her choices and of course we “spank.” He doesn’t – he uses time out. I think that all kids respond to punishments differently.

Another Mom responded to someone saying – pick your battles. She mentioned she let her daughter wear pj’s to school because she was tired of fighting with her LO in the morning and that was the last time her LO didn’t get ready on time =)

For some people/children time-outs might work but for us “spankings,” routine and communication work well for us.

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T.V.

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HOW DO YOU GET THROUGH ANY STAGE: Take charge

A three year old understands YES and NO. I would recommend cut out the snacks and let her know she WILL sit at table for breakfast, lunch and dinner. If she asks for something, give her a SMALL amount (juice glass 1/2 full) of water, juice or milk ONLY. If she asks why NO snacks, tell her because you won't eat when its time for regular meals and when she starts eating RIGHT, she will be able to have small snacks again.

Talk with her about bedtime LONG before bedtime. For example: When mommy says it's time for PJ's that means you go get into your PJ's and then brush your teeth. If you don't LISTEN and do what mommy and daddy asks you to do, there will NOT be a story and you will be sleeping in your cloths and you will go to bed early.

The hair: If she likes her long hair, let her know when you need to comb, brush or wash her hair, its because you want it to be clean and look pretty (nice). If she doesn't want to let you do her long hair, get her a cute short hair cut and teach her to comb and brush her own hair.

HER CHOICES ARE:

1. EAT AT THE TABLE
2. PUT YOU PJ's ON
3. SLEEP IN YOUR CLOTHS
4. LET ME FIX YOUR LONG HAIR or WE WILL CUT IT SHORT

Be consistent.

Blessings.....

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B.C.

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My son tried that. Sometimes I'd pick a tune and substitute all the words for 'No'. Try it with "Row, Row, Row your boat". And all the while I'm singing it, I'm getting him dressed, or taking off his shoes, or what ever we are trying to do while he's balking at it. He screams - I sing louder.
One particular time he was just having a screaming day.
We were home alone, and I decided to scream, too. Not at him. Just sort of with him. More like harmony. Well, not exactly, but we got a good buzz going on in the ears.
That got his attention. Then he thought it was funny.
Fortunately that stage didn't last long, but it was kind of like primal scream therapy. If anyone would have heard us they would have probably thought we were killing cats.

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N.J.

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I'm right there with you Mama. I don't know how I've gotten through it, because we haven't yet. But for me, I found the hardest part was not to take his "NO's" personally, or as being defiant or disrespectful (even tho' there are many times it is).

What has worked for us lately, even better than giving him choses, which does seem to work somewhat. Is simply giving him the words other than "NO" to express his independence or dislikes with something. I guess in my world, I always seem to take his "NOs" as being disrespectful to authority (obviously driven by the way I was brought up).

So I've been just constantly giving him words to express things more politely or respectful. For instance, one of my pet peeves is when his brother or another kid takes a toy he wants and he just starts screaming "no no no that's mine"...Mind you I get it, its developmental he's upset, but hearing that all day just gets my blood boiling. So right now we're working on him rephrasing "I don't like you taking my toy, please give it back". Or its time to get your shoes we need to leave "Nooooo I don't want to"...I will often come back, with I understand you don't want to but let's find a better way to tell me politely...and then I have him repeat back something like "In a minute Mommy, I'm playing with xyz" I then give him his minute, and then explain your minutes is now up, we need to go!!!

Seems to work somewhat, I caught him telling his younger brother, who was tickle him, "stop please I don't like this you're hurting me" then it was followed my a incessant whining of "no no no no" but it must be getting across to him somehow.

We've also made it clear that we won't tolerate a flat out "NO", but a more acceptable and respectful response is "No thank you"...And he's got that down pat. Unfortunately the hard thing is that even though he says it politely it doesn't necessarily mean he's going to get what he desires.

Point take when I brought him in for his 3 year check up, he was due for a vaccine. The whole time we were getting the shot ready and holding him down he was crying "No thank you, No thank you" the nurse was kept telling me "how can we give him a shot when he's so polite even in a situation like this". The bottom line for me is, at least when he responds this way, my blood isn't boiling and I respond more respectfully to him, which in turn encourages him to respond that way as well.

Good Luck please feel free to share any of the other posters methods that work for you. I'm sure this is just the beginnings of the Terrible 3's and I'm hoping I can survive!

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J.S.

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I feel your pain. I have 3 little darlings - the oldest is 7, the next is 5 & my youngest is at that blessed age of 3 1/2. Each kid is a little different, but they all had in common the need to take control of their lives a little after they turned 3. We are in the middle of it with our youngest. It is a completely normal phase of development. So don't worry - it's not because you are doing anything wrong. If you have the time & energy, I highly recommend the Love & Logic book specifically for 0-6 year olds. It has some great suggestions for just the kind of behavior you are dealing with. In case you don't have the time and/or inclination for that, I'll suggest a few things that have worked for us.

1- Never show your frustration. This has been hard for me - but things go sooo much better when I remain pleasant. If I lose my temper, it feeds the behavior.
2- Plan extra time in the morning or when you need to go somewhere so that it doesn't turn tense when things aren't going well.
3 - Always give choices - even about things that don't matter. Kids act out & say no because they want to feel in control. 'Do you want this shirt or that shirt? Should we put on your shirt or pants first?' When you present things in this way, they gain some control & forget to fight with you. If she doesn't answer within a reasonable time, make the choice for her. If she throws a fit, leave the room & give her no attention until she calms down. If you then ask her to do something & she doesn't want to do it, tell her she's been able to make a lot of choices today & now it's your turn to make one.
4 - If you ask her to do something & she won't, i.e. - you want her to put a book on the shelf - get down on her level, look in her eyes and ask her just once. If she does it, praise her & give her attention. If she doesn't do it, calmly pick up the book, take her with you (lead her or pick her up), put the book in the shelf yourself and then leave the room giving her no attention at all. Kids thrive on attention. She will learn by experience that doing what you ask gets that attention and that by refusing, she doesn't really get out of at least going through the motions of the task & gets no attention.

Those are a few of my best tips. Good luck! And keep heart - they do eventually grow out of this phase. :o) I really do recommend the Love & Logic book. It is a quick read & gives great real-world examples. I don't follow everything in it, but it's been a great resource for good ideas that have worked well for me. I got it from the library & loved it so much I bought my own copy.

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T.W.

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I'm going through the same thing with my almost 3 year old, he's my first so I'm new at this to and it's tough some days!

I have found that time-outs do work for my son if he's gotten to the point where he's either having or ready to throw a tantrum. I put him in his room and he stays there until he's calmed down, only a few minutes, then he comes out and he's much better. I hug him and tell him I love him. I think he's gotten used to the routine, his room right now calms him down when he's real upset.

If I need him to do something like put a toy away and he won't I'll say, "By the count of 3 you need to put the toy away, 1..2...3" if by 3 he doesn't do it then I tell him I'm going to help him put it away and I do. He likes to do everything himself w/out my help right now so he usually does what I ask him to, sometimes we count to 3 several times:)

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R.M.

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MY oldest daughter swears that her precious little boy who turned 3 in December has been inhabited by a creature from outer space!!! He now spends half of his time scowling and growling...and he thinks he has to be in charge of EVERYTHING....'don't look at me Grandma'....'sit over there Mama'...and of course NO is his favorite word...and the whining...OMG the whining...at supersonic levels of sound!!!!
My daughter tries to be very calm and clear with him...when he says 'sit over here Grandma ' or 'Don't look at me Mama'...or whatever he comes up with she informs him calmly that isn't his choice. She found a book, I am sorry I cant remember the name of it...about "your 3 year old" that she said sounded like it was written about her son!!
So...even though I have no real advice...take comfort in the fact that you are NOT alone!!!
My daughter writes a blog and recently mentioned the book in question..if you want to message me I would be happy to give you her blog address.
R. Ann

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A.T.

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Choices.
Do you want me to brush your teeth or will you?....good decision!
Do you want to wear these pj's or those?.....good decision!
Do you want to wear these socks or those?....good decision!
Do you want to wear the blue shirt or the red shirt?....good decision!
Do you want to carry your coat or put it on? ....good decision!
About everything, even the smallest things, plate or bowl? straw or no straw? milk or water?
Bank up the choices so that when it really counts you'll be able to make a withdrawal: "I need you do do this now, please. You've been making decisions all day/evening, now mommy gets to make a decision."
I will allow a certain silent count (5 or 10) for her to make a decision then I'll choose for her----they would much rather make their own decisions than let us choose for them.

All of this came from Love & Logic workshop my husband and I took, I highly recommend it!
A.

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