Oh the DRAMA!!! Part 1 - 11 Year Old DD

Updated on January 21, 2011
S.S. asks from Hobbs, NM
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Hey mamas -

This is a two parter. I have an 11 year old DD and an 11 year old DSS...we have been together as a family (with my husband and his son, the DSS) for going on 5 years. We also have a 6 year old DD and an 18month old DS.

First, the 11 year old DD:

As a little backstory, I did not have your conventional childhood, so alot of this is a bit foreign to me. I grew up with an abusive, controlling, conniving mother. 2 custody battles between her and my dad (starting when I was 12), beatings, emotional blackmail, constant insults and a Gestapo-type lifestyle...so I really did not (out of fear) mouth off or disrespect my mother much, if at all.

My 11 year old daughter is a DRAMA queen with my husband and I. There is a tween meltdown nearly everyday if I talk to her about anything other than sunshine and rainbows. If I remind her to do her chores, I am "nagging"...if I don't remind her, I am "wanting her to be in trouble". She bullies the 6 year old, and sometimes her 11 year old brother (step, but we dont use that word...they refer to themselves as brother and sister, period...he is much more mild mannered than she is.) She takes no responsibility for her actions, if she makes an unwise decision and is asked about it, she blames anyone and anything, then when she is punished we don't "listen" to her, never beleive her (even when we KNOW without a doubt she is lying, she expects us to beleive her.) She accuses me of yelling all the time (had been a problem, but I have been working on it diligently...even went 4 weeks without raising my voice until yesterday....that is a record for me.) she tells me I dont do anything to help her (I guess laundry, meals, getting her to and from school and maintaining most of the house work plus our critter care is "nothing") etc. etc. You know the drill.

We share time with her with her dad and step mom, and we all get along fabulously. We are friends and maintain a friendship outside of the kids...however if we need to discuss the kids, we put friendship aside and look at whatever we are talking about as coparents. It really works, and we are so blessed. (We have the same type of relationship with SDS's mother and stepfather...) We spend some holidays together (all 6 parents: myself, my husband, my exhusband and his wife and my husbands exwife and her husband) and we invite each other for birthday parties and family get togethers. With all that wonderfulness, my 11 year old daughter does not behave this way at her dad's house anymore. She is an ANGEL over there. (She and her stepmom used to get into it and butt heads, but that has stopped.)

So what do I do? How can I diffuse the situation? I m tired of my home being a war zone. I am tired of walking on eggshells because I feel like it gives HER control and reinforces the situation.

We have tried taking away priveleges like phone, electronics, friends, etc, with extremely limited success. She will behave through her punishment, then it picks up again as soon as it is over...it's a vicious cycle. I am just at the end of my rope. Please help me. I dont have any family at all to fall back on (I had to cut my mother out when she started becoming toxic to the kids and my dad...well thats another long story.)

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K.L.

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Honestly, it sounds like you are doing everything right with your dd. Something though isn't resonating with her. It's so fantstic that you have the relationships that you do with your ex and dh's ex so since she is suddenly doing better at her dads, maybe you could ask what they are doing differently. Maybe you have already done that since you seem to spend so much time together but what they changed could be really subtle. I recently read this great book called The Five Love Languages of Children by Gary Chapman and Ross Campbell. It is basically about how everyone perceives love differently. So since it doesn't seem to be something you are doing wrong, maybe it's something that she isn't feeling?

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K.W.

answers from Youngstown on

I am not really sure how to help with all of this. But one thing that popped into my head is puberty. Has she started her period yet? I know when I was 11 my mom said I was on a monthly rampage cycle for almost a year before I started my period at age 12. She sounds a lot like I was. My body was going through all the hormonal changes but just not the period part and it was a huge adjustment and I had no clue how to deal with it. Don't know if that helps any but perhaps talking about her emotions, hormones ect. and watching to see if you notice a pattern in the craziness might help your sanity.

Good luck

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M.P.

answers from Pittsburgh on

couple things:
do you think she behaves over there for the same reason you behaved with your mother? Meaning is she 'afraid' to mouth off? And when she is with you she knows that she can?

It sounds to me like you need to extend her punishments. And as soon as the behavior starts again start the punishment again-no buildup.

Do you ever take her out just the 2 of you?? She would love that I think. Get to know just her.

Do not discount her behavior as a grab for attention. Honestly take a look at yourself and figure out how much time you spend on her and her alone. I was the oldest of 4 siblings and looking back I can say that much of my bad behavior WAS really a cry for attention. My parents were really involved with the craziness of raising the little ones and pretty much let me get away with more than I should have. I would push the envelope as much as i could to get a reaction. Then they would notice me. And I hate to tell you that the older I got the more dangerous that behavior became.

And lastly-that really is a tough age to be a girl. Hormones are ridiculously hard for adult women to handle let alone an 11 year old.

L.P.

answers from Pittsburgh on

This is totally off-topic, but I just wanted to say THANK YOU.

Thank you for reinforcing to me that the kind of relationship you and your husband have with your ex's is possible. Your situation is EXACTLY what I hope for for my son... his father and I never married, and I am recently engaged to another man. As of now, my son's father and I do maintain a wonderful friendship, although it has not matured to the point where we can all enjoy each other as you all do, but it is what I dearly hope for, as I know that's the best possible outcome of our situation for my son.

We hear so often about feuding ex's, and RARELY about situations like yours... so THANK YOU for including that information.

I'm sorry I don't have anything to include about your DD, but I still had to post.

Best wishes to you all.

S.R.

answers from Los Angeles on

first i would like to say good for you guys being such a loving close family! i wish EVERY family could be like yours!

It does sound like tween drama!
you need to find something that really speaks to her as a person to help her understand her behavior.
as her mother you probably know her best.
what is the thing that she needs the most right now?
she sounds like she likes attention! like my kids!
if so, she will do anything and everything to get it, bad or good.

what you can do is make a chart for her (make it look grown up or "cool" with her favorite colors, pictures of her favorite things to do or her friends and family)
put all the things on the chart that you need her to do, or want her to do, like chores (be specific, clean room, scrub toilet, etc) general cleanliness like brush teeth, shower, wash hands, etc. used kind words when upset, calmed down when angry with sibling or parents, apologized for being mean or saying a bad name etc.
then when she does each good thing on a daily basis put an awesome glittery sticker or check mark wtih a pretty sparkle pen, if she did NOT do them then you can take a big red or black marker and make an X.
at the end of each week she can earn a reward for all or most of her stickers, such as a special outing with mom, like dinner and movie or frozen yogurt or ice cream, or walk to the park, or skating rink or theme park or whatever fun thing she wants to do, you can let her pick!

my kids get coupons for special outings with mom or dad. they LOVE it
the key is to BE CONSISTENT, it really works, especially after the first time.

and if she earns a reward then does something bad you take it away (its not a physical thing, but its positive attention specially for her)
if youre like me you can also let her earn it back by doing something extra special like writing a sorry letter to a sibling or doing extra chores or making dinner for the family! (with adult supervision)
it teaches compassion and responsibility.

bless your family and
Good LUCK!!

L.M.

answers from Dover on

Try some one on one time. Bet as a tween she is a bit jealous of sharing mom with her other siblings.

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