IEP Vs 504 - Dover AFB,DE

Updated on May 11, 2012
K.E. asks from Dover AFB, DE
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I recently went to the annual IEP meeting for review and make changes for my son for the following year. The regular teacher and the special ed teacher have concluded that he no longer needs an IEP and want to set him up with just a 504 plan instead. He has had the IEP for 1 year. A majority of the items listed on the IEP are for emotional outbursts and impluse control and some for task completion. In the last two months my son's emotional outbursts have been very infrequent but he still has impluse control and task completion issues. He has a diagnosis of ADD and we have recently tried a non stimulant medication. The medication has not helped with the attention issue but it certainly has helped with his behavioral issues. My concern with the 504 plan is that there are no goals set only a listing of accomodations that are supposed to be given and the school is ready to give up the IEP because he hasn't had an emotional outburst in the last two months. Is the school jumping the gun on this? Currently my son is passing everything, math is on the border of failing. Math is the last subject of the day and he has the hardest time staying on task in this subject. It is not that he can't do the work. I have a math workbook and flaschcards that we do at home regularly to follow up and reinforce what he learns and does in school. I have been researching the IEP vs 504 plan and would appreaciate any advice/input from everyone to help me be as informed as I can be. The IEP team meets again next week to finalize a decision. Thank you.

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So What Happened?

Thanks for the responses. My husband and I did our research and concluded that we wanted to keep the IEP. We went to the second meeting this week. Everyone in the group was set to do the 504 except for us. We argued for for close to an hour and they finally gave in to us. I think the one that was the most upset was his regular teacher. She kept saying this isn't right. My husband and I walked away feeling satisfied. The next day I had to pick up my son from school for having one of the biggest outbursts that he has ever had. And it carried over into Friday as well. When I picked him up, his teacher had the smuggest look on her face. The medication that he is taking makes him so compliant to the point of a dream come true. I'm now wondering if the regular teacher is trying to sabotage him because it takes a lot to provoke him into that kind out outburst.

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D.B.

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If your son is able to complete grade level work and does not need curricuclum accomodations, then a 504 sounds appropriate. He will still get accommodations for the ADD issues, and his educational goals will be the same as the mainstream students. The 504 accommodations should create a learning environment in which your son can successfully master the mainstream curriculum (doesn't mean it will be easy or he will get all A's, but it means he is expected to perform at grade level). If this sounds like your son, then a 504 is appropriate. From what you say, it sounds like he can handle grade level work with accommodations. Do you think he would do better with math if it were done earlier in the day? Or is there something that will help him stay on-task for the l

ETA: An IEP provides for curriculum accommodations in addition to physical and instructional accommodations. 504s provide physical and instructional accommodations, just not curriculum accommodations. So you can still get extended time on tests, modified homework and classwork, etc with a 504. That is exactly what we are doing for my son. An IEP is not necessarily better, but it does have more legal safeguards. Typically an IEP is only used when a student is unable to perform at grade level because of their disability, even with accommodations(i.e. it gives curriculum accommodations).

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K.M.

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Here is the thing, they just can not justify the IEP right now and have moved him to a 504 (in the SAME boat) - HOWEVER this can ALWAYS be re evaluated. Give the 504 some time, see if it is enough and go from there. My son had to change classrooms and everything else regarding his day/week with the change from an IEP, he was in a MLP classroom, to a blended room with the coming of his 504 and he has adjusted well overall.

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B.R.

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Contact your local state advocacy center:

www.picofdel.org
Phone: ###-###-####
800 Number: 888-547-4412
Fax: ###-###-####
____@____.com

They may be able to set you up with a parent mentor or counselor who can give you advice and possibly serve as an advocate at an IEP meeting.

I don't have experience with ADD and IEPs, but I know an IEP is way better than a 504 plan, which is just for medical accommodations, not educational accommodations. Plus, IEPs require prior written notice and other due process procedures. I'd say if he's on the border of failing, then his goals probably aren't being met, and the IEP is still required. I don't think they can take away an IEP if the medical condition still exists......

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T.H.

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the one thing that jumps at me is that this starts in september i assume. after hes has two months off from school. when he goes back he's going to have a transition period of being back two months from now. i don't know what a %)$ is and what it does but I'd rather have the IEP there and have him have good days rather than a 504 and not be able to accomodate and if it's bad enough to go back have to meet again to reassess, label and fill out paper work. I would want a good year or at least half a year before stating that he has grown out of something or is old enough (not age but his personal mentality and ability) now to handle the issues he has personally on his own.

F.H.

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I have 3 kids, 2 have an IEP and one has a 504 Plan. I'll try to help you with this but my hubs is the expert but he's away at science camp with our daughter. The basic difference is under a 504, they allow accomodations for a child such as wheelchair access, special seating, may need to immediately leave the class without pass, etc. Its more like allowing PHYSICAL accomodations for the child. The IEP is more for INSTRUCTIONAL accomodations, like modified homework and classwork, extra time to take tests, extra directions, special classes, etc. Its also my understanding that IEPs you can *legally* enforce more, meaning the school is legally required to follow it exactly. 504's are more lax. Regardless of what your son has in place, make sure it is VERY detailed and specific and keep in contact with the teacher(s) to make sure they are following it. I hope this helps but google it and you will get a lot of info. Good luck!

D.S.

answers from Norfolk on

Hi, K.:
What did your research help you in deciding whether IEP or the 504 plan
would be the best for your son?

What is it that your son needs in comparing the two plans?
Hope this helps.
D.

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T.F.

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Insist on keeping the IEP. The 504 plan alone will not provide your child with counseling services he may need. In addition, you are right, your child will have no social emotional goals, and no academic goals. Moving your child from Special Education may not be a good idea at this time. Please insist on another year to see if your child is then ready to transititon out of Special Education. With the emotional outbursts, the school system will be able to suspend him without a Manifestation Meeting to consider if his behavior was a result of his disability. With a 504, he will be treated and punished like a general education child and his disability will not be considered if something happened. Remember you are the parent and YOU are the one in control. If it doesn't seem right, don't do it. It is not your job to make the school system's job easier. I wish you and your child the best.

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