504 And Special Education?

Updated on July 11, 2010
D.M. asks from Crown Point, IN
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If a child has a 504 plan and followed by a special education teacher/director, though not needing a special education....Is he still legally special ed?

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C.J.

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Depends on what the 504 is for. Children can have plans for speech and such and they would not be considered special ed. What is the 504 for?

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A.M.

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Wow- there are a lot of misconceptions out there. A Section 504 Plan is an accommodation plan related to a student's medical condition. It was created based on the Rehabilitation Act, rather than IDEA (the federal framework of special education). In schools, you are entitled to a yearly meeting (at least once a year) to review the 504 Plan and see if any changes are needed. In some schools, a special education teacher is the case manager for the 504 Plans (meaning that they ensure that the accommodations are in place), but they should not be providing direct services to the student if that student has nothing more than a 504 plan. As with special education, you can ask for a meeting whenever you would like to clear up any questions you have.

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J.D.

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You might want to ask your childs special ed teacher. They sometimes know. It may also depend if your child is in there all day and what the 504 is for. I wish I could be more help.

My son is on an IEP but thats because he is non-verbal and very much delayed. he has some mild mental disabilities also and weak muscle tone. He is considered Special Ed but he spends all day in there except for music, art, gym and special typical class events. he did graduate out of physical therapy.

I know people whose daughter was in special ed classes for speech. She just graduated out of speech so she is no longer in special ed. I'm thinking she was on a 504 plan.

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C.S.

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That is interesting to see that he is followed by a special Ed teacher. Normally with 504 is a step down from an IEP. They usually do this because your child does not qaulify for the IEP. If they have someone following him, I would put something in writing that you would like him tested for the IEP. I live in IL so I am not sure the laws for your 504/IEP. But a lot of times they will do the 504 so they don't have to have the cost of testing and meetings for the IEP.

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M.O.

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I don't think they can have a 504 w/out being designated special ed. Do you mean they have placed in a regular classroom? If so, I believe he still is legally 504. Hint: Go to: wrightslaw.com. They are advocates for special ed, have lots of help for anyone with special ed child. They even help you learn what to ask for in your IEP meeting.

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J.

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Hello,

I am a special education coordinator for a school district in Skokie. A 504 Plan is NOT part of special education. Typically, a student in special ed. has a documented disability (learning, emotional) that interferes with their ability to access the general ed. curriculum. A 504 plan is only for students with a documented MEDICAL condition (ADHD, Diabetes) that is in need of accommodations in the classroom to access the general ed. curriculum. I maintain all the 504 Plans for my building and coordinate the spec.ed program, however they are two very different programs. Hope this helps.

J.

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J.O.

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D.
Your child has a 504 for medical reasons I assume then that usually falls under the Special ED category. Call the director of Special Ed and speak to the assistant they will clear it up for you. I am in IL that is how it is in my district.
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H.S.

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No the student is not considered a special education student. IDEA and Section 504 are different laws. He would need to have an IEP (Individualized Education Plan) to be special ed and would require much more "intervention" than a student with a 504 Plan. At times a special education teacher will follow out the accomidations in the 504 plan such as during testing or if the student needs a break etc.

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M.L.

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I would thinks so if you have a 504 plan and he has a special ed teacher. Sometimes children just need one one one assistance in the class. Many children do not go to special education rooms anymore. There are more inclusion classes. I am not sure of his or your circustances so it is hard to say. Talk it over with the special education department at your school. Good luck!

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M.C.

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A 504 plan is usually for medical reasons and an IEP is for special education. A 504 does not mean special education...a child could have a 504 plan for a severe allergy or asthma.

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M.B.

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504 is a section the Federal rehabilitation act. An IEP is a part of the Special Education program authorized under the Individuals with Disability Education Act (IDEA), also a federal law. People often get these mixed up. To have a 504 you need some accomodation for some diability, however you don't need educational help. If you need educational help -- extra time on tests, larger print, tutoring, speech, OT, then you (in theory) SHOULD get an IEP.

I say should get an IEP because I am in the process now and I really don't see the point. I know of no one who has an IEP, that actually has the IEP followed. I really don't understand why anyone does this. I would truely like to hear from people who think IEPs actually help.

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C.P.

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I work on a special education school bus and we have 504 children that are in a wheelchair and need our lift to get them on the bus but go to regular classes.

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J.O.

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HI
Check the Wrightslaw web site. They should have the correct answer. You can ask at school but if it is because you are unhappy with them you may want to check the web. You can also call the Dept. Of Public Instruction(DPI)

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M.P.

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Is he legally special ed for what purpose? The term is used in different settings. If you're referring to taxes you have to get a signed statement from someone. I can't remember if it's his doctor or the head of the Special Ed program or ?. I think there is a specific document that you get from the IRS. You could look on the Internet under IRS.

My grandson is in Special Ed with a specific diagnosis. He isn't able to speak clearly and lives in his own world. He's considered special ed for taxes and his mother gets credit. My granddaughter has an Individual Education Plan (IEP in our state) because she's been diagnosed as ADHD. She is not qualified for a tax credit.

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S.H.

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D., I have a friend who is a teacher of the visually impaired in DuPage County as well as an attorney; as a result, I think she could answer your question. Her name is D. Oates (pronounced Otis), and her email is ____@____.com. Please tell her that S. Howerton gave you her name. Good luck.

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