3 Year Old - Sleep

Updated on August 15, 2008
J.S. asks from Saint Paul, MN
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My son turned 3 in March. He is in a toddler bed, and shares his room with his brother (who is 20 months and in a crib). I am struggling with what to do with his nap. He still needs a nap to function properly in the afternoon. The days he doesn't take a nap he is nasty to his brother and drives me nuts from about 4:00 until bedtime at 7:30. He also usually is nasty the next morning as well (more pushing and fighting than days following a nap) The days he doesn't nap I usually put him to bed at 7:00.

Here is another part of my problem. My husband usually leaves for work either right when the kids get up (around 6:30 or 7:00) or before they are up. He doesn't get home until 6:00 or later (6:30). So, on the days my son doesn't nap, he barely sees his Dad before bedtime. My husband likes to spend time with the kids and feels bad when they go to bed so early.

I feel like he really still needs the nap, but the battle to get him to sleep is driving me insane. It makes me so angry that I don't feel like it is worth it to deal with naps anymore.

What do you all think? Is it a phase? We did a stretch in June when I tried skipping a nap and it really didn't work because he was so tired by the end of the week that the whole day was a disaster instead of the just the last part of the day (my husband was traveling so his schedule wasn't an issue that week).

When did you start skipping naps regularly? We try to get out and be active in the morning (this morning we went for a bike ride, went to the park, and visited the neighbor kids all before lunch!) and he told me multiple times that he was tired and would take a nap, but then at nap time he went all nutty and wouldn't lay still.

Anyway... he is playing now while his brother finishes his nap but I am so frustrated with him I don't know what to do.

Thanks -
Jess

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So What Happened?

Nice to hear that I'm not alone... I almost wonder if he is over tired and that is contributing...

Today we had a busy morning, I had an ECFE Advisory Council Meeting so he was in their sibling care room for 2 hours... wore him out a little (plus no nap yesterday). I just laid down with him on my bed and ignored all his antics and he finally snuggled up to me and went to sleep (rather than engaging with him when he acted out). It took about 20 minutes. Whew. His brother played in his crib in their room and was asleep when I came out. Maybe I need to work on a more active morning followed by no attention from me while he falls asleep. We also did an early bedtime last night.

I'll post another update in a few days. Thanks for the great advice!
J.

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J.I.

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My kids are the same age... and it is rough! I've been there, so I feel your pain! :)

I put my youngest in a pack-n-play in my bedroom and let our 3 yr old have his room to himself. That way, at least the youngest can get some sleep! Now my oldest understands that it is quiet time... reading, playing quietly, etc. Most of the time he sleeps, he ends up playing in his room for about an hour and then will fall asleep. I've noticed that he is in a better mood too if he has some quiet time to himself. Good luck with everything! I hope this helps!

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R.F.

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I can't wait to see the responses you get. I am in a "same-but-different" situation right now. My son (3 in September) desperately needs his afternoon nap, and is always good about taking it, but is a terrible night sleeper. I have tried cutting back his afternoon nap, in an attempt to get him to go to bed earlier and it only makes matters worse. He is not a happy camper if he does not get his sleep!!! Good luck to you. R..

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N.S.

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There are several things to consider or try;

*Look into diet. Believe it or not, diet can be a major contributor to irritable behavior and even lack of sleep.

*Up his physical activity in the morning. Maybe he's not getting enough exercise to tire him all out. Get him to run around in the yard, buy a soccer ball and make him volley it as you and he walk to the nearest park to play with it, and make him volley it back home. Eat lunch then nap.

*Some kids need soothing instead of more activities. Perhaps a warm bath, warm milk, room darkening blinds or curtains, and some sort of white noise or soothing sounds (like a nature cd) or classical music.

*Some kids do outgrow naps, and then going the "quiet-time" route is a good alternative. Try stretching or mat exercises to help him relax and settle-down. Read a quiet soothing story to him, or just ask him to lie quietly on his bed for at least 20 to 30 minutes. Allow him to look at books or to color. Avoid tv if you can. It's too stimulating. Even more mellow kids programs. If you encourage picture books or just having them lay still with their eyes closed, sometimes they go to sleep on their own because the pressure is off. At the very least, he will wind down, and maybe learn to self-soothe and relax on his own.

Last but not least, check out "Sleepless in America" by Mary Sheedy Kurcinka. It is a book about kids with trouble night sleeping, but I think all of her recommendations can still apply here. The book will go into the diet and recommendations if you're interested in what to do there.

Good luck!

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K.K.

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Jess,
I SO understand your frustration!
I have a 3 year old and 1 year old. My 3 year old is doing the same thing. She naps only once a week now, and is terrible from 4-7 on the days she doesn't. But, today she napped for 1 1/2 hours and she just fell asleep and it's 1030! Ugh. They get you on either end, don't they?!

My kids have their own rooms, so I enforce quiet time. She has to stay in her room for 1 1/2 hours. At first I allowed her to play quietly. Now we are working on staying in bed with books. It's working ok, although she still gets out of her room alot and I don't really get a break. SIGH.

I guess I just want to say "you are not alone!" And, if you can set up a tent, make a tent, have him go in your room....anything to have him have a quiet time so you can get a break!

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D.P.

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Can he nap in a different room or on the couch?? My now 3 year old will nap on our bed after we let her watch a little bit of a movie, or will sleep in her bed if she falls asleep in the car and we carry her in. My oldest girl, when she was this age would fall asleep on the couch.

I assume you need naps right now too...will the 3 year old snuggle in bed with you to take a nap?? Will a car ride or walk before nap help him fall asleep??

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