Need Advice on Teenage Boy Troubles

Updated on September 18, 2006
C.G. asks from Fort Worth, TX
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I have a beautiful 16 year old daughter. About 4 years ago I re-married and my three girls and I moved to a town about 65 miles away from my hometown. At the time I don't believe my daughter was dating this young man but I know she knew him. Over the course of time she started calling him her boyfriend. He seemed nice enough and I really thought the relationship would wane considering the long distance between them. She goes to our hometown every other weekend to see her father and my mother. I started noticing sever attitude changes after about a year of "dating" him and I would hear them arguing on the phone every night. I found out they had had sex and talked to her about the consequences of that and tightened the leash (so to speak) when she was at her dad's and grandmother's. She was no longer allowed to be alone with him. If my mother or her father wasn't there she could not be with him. I wasn't even trusting enough that she would be supervised at his house so that pretty much limited thier contact to her dads or grandmother's.
So after the constant arguing and crying on the phone until late hours of the night I eventually listened in on a phone call. Basically this guy is a thug and I don't know that he's in a gang but he's pretty much a gang wanna be. On a recent trip to visit my mother my husband was in a gas station and witnessed him buying cigars (blunts as their called) and a 12 pack of Corona. He's not old enough to purchase alcohol so another young guy was with them but they were in her boyfriends car and he was definitely with these boys.
I've done the whole "you can't speak to this boy anymore" and as most parents know that doesn't work. He ended up buying her a pre-paid cell phone and she was hiding it from me. I found the first one and took it away and she had another one within 2 weeks. I have no idea how he was even getting them to her. I've even suspected her sneaking out while visiting her dad. I eventually relented on the no talking rule because everytime I would take a phone away...she'd get another one.
Now they talk and he visits at her dad's house when she's there but they still fight constantly. She can't tell him if she goes out with friends or he gets mad and she often wants me to lie for her. I try to use those as examples of why she shouldn't be with this boy but she just doesn't see it that way. The other night my mother called and she clicked over. The whole time I was talking to my mom she kept telling me she was on the other line. I told her she could wait. She was getting frantic. I finally got off the phone and I heard her arguing with her boyfriend about the call. He was accusing her of talking to someone else. She probably cried and screamed on the phone with him for an hour or so. Today however; she's using her birthday money to buy him a $60 watch for his birthday. I just can't convince her that he's not good for her.
There are boys here in our town now that call her and come visit...but she says she just likes them as friends. She will forgo events with her school to go to our hometown. She'll blow friends off here where we live to spend time with him.
Within the last two (school) years she's gained a substantial amount of weight. I even started watching her periods to make sure she wasn't pregnant. She does nothing. She basically comes home, get's something to eat and goes to her room to talk on the phone. I've tried getting her to take walks with my husband and I. She's afraid she'll miss a call. I think he's got her so stressed that she just stays home to wait for his call. I'm pretty much convinced this is emotional warfare for her. I feel horrible but nothing I say matters. The entire family pretty much says the same but of course we're the bad guys.
I love her and I feel like this could be a potentially bad situation for her if and when she ever decides to get out. I'm afraid that she'll not go to college to be close to this boy. It's almost like her entire world revolves around him. I found text messages awhile back where they were planning to get pregnant so that we would have to let them be together (when I forbid her to talk to him).
I'm not at all even considering giving up on her but I need some different ideas. I've tried using all the hurtful things he does as learning experiences and showing her how it's not normal behavior but in a day or so she's back with him and "blissfully" happy. I just need advice on what to do. I feel like I'm limited but surely there's something I haven't thought of.

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S.H.

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C., I don't know that I have any helpful advice, but I was compelled to read your request. I was in your daughter's place when I was 16. Not good. I can now see that at age 41 with a daughter! I'm trying to think of what my mom could have done differently to help me. I hate to say this, but I don't think anything she would have said could have made a difference. I came from a fairly well-to-do family, but a broken family none-the-less. I know without a doubt this does have something to do with it. (I'm in the same position now--go figure--with an ex and a daughter.) And my only hope--as I see--is my faith and devotion to Christ. I don't say that lightly or with trite. I so strongly believe God can and will change hearts and lives. So take the other mom�s advice and pray. If you don�t have someone to lead you, then reach out to a church where you truly feel at home and comfortable. Looking back, I think that might have been the only thing to save me. God does care and He will listen and respond if you truly ask Him to.

I didn�t get pregnant, I actually went on to have a decent career as a news anchor, but I hung around with some dangerous, controlling men and ended up marrying one. I�m actually surprised I survived! Poor choices�many, many years of poor choices and a complete feeling of worthlessness and desire to be loved and noticed.

It�s in my heart to help young girls like this so they don�t repeat the mistakes I did. If you think she�d talk with someone like me�or any other mom on here�let her. You can read about who I am at www.OnCueMedia.com. I would love to share with her how her choices today, while fun and perhaps unknowingly controlled by a deeper lack of self worth, can and will make her life much tougher than it has to be.

Men like you are describing are all too familiar to me. They�re dangerous�emotionally and potentially physically. Good for you! I�ll include you in a prayer.

Blessings, S.

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A.D.

answers from Dallas on

I don't have the answers for you but wanted to let you know that I will lift you and your daughter up in prayer.

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S.A.

answers from Dallas on

Strongly we support our fellow sister love and understanding.

Please could all of your Mama Sources mothers out there help one our very own to get through this terrible situation. Please encourge her and provide support that will enchance her stand for the proper manner in which to handle this. Let's put our heads together and present her with advise to get the help she so desperately needs. This is so she will not not feel she is alone. If, you have anything such as words of encouragement or help resources to enable her to make it through this critical time. Please consider what we are all here on this web-site for. This might be your problem or your child, but if you have children it all of our problems.
Please give some thought about how you address this issue. This is a extremely important matter.
Let be there for this mother in need. Money is not always the problem. This is dealing with the heart of a parent!

Pray for her and tell your pastor and church to pray for her. This is a serious situation. This is someone loveone whom needs our support as a whole. Let us united against the evil in this situation. Remember, today it her child and tomorrow it could be your situation. Band together against the force to break up this home of love. Let us show her the love in this community of Mama's Source. They don't call this site that for nothing. Whatever, you can do, do it. In secret or out loud, you will be rewarded by payforward gift in the future.

S.

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T.F.

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C.,
I am so sorry that you are going thru all of this, I put my mom thru the same thing when I was 16, I was dead set on seeing this boy I sat at home and waited for his phone calls and would not go any where in fear that he would get mad that I would not answer the phone, I lost all of my friends because I would not ever go out with them after I met this boy. I thought I was "in Love" but boy did that all change. We didnt live 65 miles away from each other just 3 blocks away and we both went to the same school. My mom god bless her stuck to her guns and did not give up (which I thank her very much for now). I had my own car but she monitered every single move that I made I would try to sneek to see him but she caught me everytime. If and when I went to my dads house she would even call there to check to make sure that I was truly there and he was not there. After a year of my mom telling me he was no good for me I realized it my self nothing my mom said could have changed my mind. I found out after a year of him telling me that I was cheating or talking to other guys on the phone the reason he was so worried about me suposably doing those things he had been seeing another girl for our whole relationship. It then hit me that he never loved me and I moved on, thanks to him it mad my mom and I so much closer to each other, I finaly realized that, that whole year my mom was right and I should listen to her more. I guess my whole point to this is, please stick to your guys this only happened to me 6 years ago, do anything and everything to make it difficult for them to cummunicate, make he father stick to that too he needs to be strong to help his little girl out. At times my mom felt like giving up but she never did and I thank her for that. I hope that everything works out okay, just remember you are doing the right thing even though sometimes it may not feel that way.

Good luck and I hope that things work out for the best.

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B.H.

answers from Dallas on

I sent you a private message, let me know if you didnt get it.

Hugs,
B.

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K.W.

answers from Dallas on

She is 16, so this is a difficult age to put your foot down and risk having her run away. I agree with Sunny that you need to change the circumstances. Her father and grandma need to come visit her. NO more trips to the hometown. What about a parttime job or volunteer work. But it needs to seem like her idea and make her want to earn her own money.

It sounds like she doesn't like herself (which most teens go through) and really needs positive reinforcement. She needs to hear from you that she is smart and beautiful and about her good characteristics (no matter her response). If you (or her stepdad, father, grandma, teacher, etc) EVER say she is fat or ugly, she will remember that forever.

The more you say you don't like the guy, the more she will want to be with him. Talk about college applications, what she wants to study, get a subscription to Dallas Summer Musicals and go with her to the shows. (Or something that you two can do together, regular movies or bowling or something where it is just the two of you spending time together at a regular scheduled time (3rd Saturday afternoon of each month or something) Yes, she will tell you it is dorky or uncool, but even if she is rude to you the entire time (she's a teenager), she will know that you WANT to spend time with her. Whatever you do on these evenings, don't criticize her, complain about her boyfriend, etc... Just focus on her. Let her know she is valued by you.

You don't mention her relationship with her step dad. Is there a daily activity they could do together (even go for a walk before dinner)? Do you do outings as a whole family? Is she made to be the babysitter for the younger ones? Start with the small changes you can make.

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T.R.

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I read this- and this girl used to be me! Here's what could have saved me- a solid relationship with the father-figure in my life. This is key. I wanted a man to love me and I didnt know how to recognize a "good man" because although my dad was great, he didn't really focus on me- one on one to show me what a loving relationship looks like from a man who didn't want my bod.lol. basically- he dad needs to date your daughter. and get closer. Second, my folks didn't involve me in any activities that I could excel in- they say I didn't stick with anything, but they gave up too easy. busy with stuff equals too busy for Loser. And believe it or not, this too will pass. REMEMBER- you will not lose the love of your child if you put your foot down- she will look back and thank you (when she's about 25) that's what my mom should have done- she should have stomped on this situation and let me get over it- and you will hear all this meaningless teen-age logic about how you ruined everything boyfriend and otherwise, but stick to your guns. Neglect on your part could look like apathy to her later on. Kids need boundaries, they crave them, and she will change into a beautiful solid well-behaved young woman in about 9 years, so until then, chain her to the bed (figuratively of course. lol)
warmest wishes.
T

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R.

answers from Dallas on

If you go to church, talk to a female there or the pastor.
Call around and see ifyou can find a teen help place.
The boyfriend is abusing her. Right now it is emotional, and mental *fear*. In time he will beat her or worse. Find someone
near her age that has gone thru it and can relate with her and talk to her.
Will take lots of help at this stage. She believes him as he has instilled fear. Talk to your mother, she can look in that town. Talk to her father. He has to know, if he does not already. She will run to the b/f if you tell her outright no
to seeing or talking to him, you don't want that. You do need to have rules...no calls after a certain time. NO calls if she
isnot done with her homework. If he calls, you answer and tell
him point blank you are on the phone with your mother/friend...and he will have to wait. If he threatens, call the police. And report to the police that an underage
male is buying alcohol and cigars from *name the store**get them both in trouble*. NO telling if she drinks when she is
out with him. Or that he is not sneaking it in and putting in soda while supervised.

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M.R.

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C.,
I know it's hard but I went through the same thing but I was the daughter that thought she knew everything. I was 15 and was dating a 17 yr old high school drop out which was nothing but bad news.
My parents told me numerous of times that I WILL not see the boy again and I went behind their backs.
He smoked cigarettes, had his own apartment and lived with a roommate that was older and bought him alcohol, He came from a low class family, he did drugs. I ended up pregnant at 16 and moved out at 17 because my parents pushed me away.
We got married at 17, he joined the Army and we moved to California at 18 and had my beautiful son at 20. We grew apart and moved back to Dallas in Christmas of 1992 and been divorced since May 1993. He was emotional abusive to me while we were married, we always argued.

I say now that I wish I would of listened to my mother. He is a wonderful father and remarried and a pastor at his church in Texarkana that is struggling finacially with 3 kids(our son 15,his 2 (6,4) and 1 on the way.

My point is try to be her friend, don't push her away. I will pray for you.
Good Luck and God Bless

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A.G.

answers from Dallas on

My heart goes out to you and your daughter. I am afraid for her. The way he is treating her is abusive and controlling, and could become so much worse. 65 miles is not that far, the boyfriend could easily come to your home if your daugther quit going to his town. I have no personal experience to offer to you at all as a parent or a daughter in that situation, but I would strongly urge you to enlist the help of her father and seek professional help on this one to protect all of you from a dangerous situation. I applaud you too for having the courage to seek help here, and want you to know that your daughter is very blessed to have a mother who loves her and is seeking what is best for her. If she does get pregnant, I am an adoptive mother and know of a wonderful Christian maternity home here in Texas where the girls stay for free and are really loved in a Christian environment. I have heard wonderful redemptive stories of lives changed for these young women and their babies. I hope it does not come to that, but if it should, I would encourage taking a look at this place. www.livalt.org Praying for you both, A.

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L.P.

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I have no advice but my heart goes out to you.

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T.T.

answers from Dallas on

C.,

I'm really sorry that you have to go through this. This situation is what mothers fear for. I believe my advice would be alot similar to these other moms. I'm only 21 yrs old, so I have that situation which not too long ago. There is nothing you can really do. Anything that you are going to say or points out she is going to think that you do not understand her or would even consider you as a bad guy. I know that is not your intentions. The more you tell her not to hang out with this dude, she will ignore you. I'm just afraid that since he is so controlling that one day she is going to get feed up and it will ended up in a fight. There are things that you can not prevent. She is going to have to learn it on her own. As of right now she thinks she is all by herself and the only person that understands and love her is that stupid boy. The one best advice I can give you is be supportive and be ready for anything.

I wish you the best of luck!!!
T.

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S.

answers from Dallas on

Wow! This is quite a dilema. What does her father say? Does he know? I have a 12 year old so I have not dealt with this kind of situation yet. But, my advice to you would be get with her dad and discuss it with him. The both of you need to be united on this front as concerned parents. You should both agree that she can not go to visit him (her dad) anymore. Her dad will have to come visit her. She cannot go near that town until she can abide by the rules (no sneaking out to meet this guy). If you are 65 miles away it is possible to just remove her from the situation. Explain to her that she is not only hurting herself but also her father and grandmother. Explain to her that this is the agreement and she can get angry if she wants but these are the rules.

I hate to be the strict parent but we have to do what is best for our children. Especially if he is abusing her. If it is that bad know just imagine how mean and controlling he would be if she did wind up pregnant.

Good luck and I will be praying for you and your family.

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H.D.

answers from Dallas on

I feel for you, girl. I have not gone through this personally or with a daughter but saw my lil sis go through it. First of all, I would consider birth control for her immediately. You already know they have had sex and they will not stop just because you told them to. As you know forbiding them to be together is not working either. I know because my lil sis got pregnant and my parents are now raising her 3 yr old. The sad part of that is that she was on birth control pills but "forgot" to take them. So I would consider the shot. Secondly, she sounds depressed. She is young and got herself in this situation and she's struggling with herself on how to get out of it. I really doubt she "loves" this guy. My sister didn't love her guy but was too scared to break it off. It took her getting pregnant to get rid of him. He heard "baby" and ran! I know you are busy but I really would get her dad involved and make sure you and her spend plenty of time together. I would sit her down and just shower her with positives about herself and just tell her that you know that she is bound to be unhappy with the way things are too. Maybe you can give her the strength to walk away. This dude is not going anywhere as long as she's letting him walk on her. It's a power thing not a love thing with him. Nip it in the bud so she's not destined to be with these types of men her whole life. What a miserable existence!

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V.

answers from Dallas on

In my humble opinion, you, your daughter and the family, need therapy urgently. Only a qualified therapist can tell you what to do to protect your daughter. Good luck. Don't listen to anybody, this is a serious case where your daughter is at risk.

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S.C.

answers from Dallas on

I feel for you C..

You could try to remove her from the situation. But make it just sort of happen rather than a rule. Have Dad and Grandma visit you instead of her going down there. Setup events that she must attend in town.

Most of all, be her support. Tell her that no matter what you are there for her. Tell her that she deserved being respected and loved.

Also, remind her about her positive points and her strenghts. Sometimes when someone is tearing you down, you believe it and tear yourself down and she seems to on that path (weight gain, no social activities). Remind her of all her gifts. Keep it conversational. Have your Husband, her Dad, her Grandma sort of sneak in positive reinforcement to her. Involve her in your Church youth activities. Meeting someone else who treats her well could help "redirect" her attentions, too.

Good luck.

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T.B.

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Hi C.,

I am very sorry that you are having to deal with this. While feedback is great from people who have walked in your shoes, I feel that you need the advice from a good christian counselor not Mamasource. Your post didn't say where you live but I have a great recommendation for one in the Far North Dallas area.

Good luck and may God bless you and your family.

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S.

answers from Dallas on

Your daughter is very fortunate to have a mother who is so concerned and determined. I worked in a high school - and saw that was not always the case.

Have you considered involving a third party? Sometimes that proves very helpful. If she were to hear information from a person who has no emotional investment in her, it might make her listen a little more closely. A counselor could use his/her professional training and experience to help your daughter understand the difference between a healthy relationship, and her current situation.

Her high school might offer a wonderful opportunity for intervention. They see her five days a week, and typically have a good understanding of teen culture. I have heard many parents express concern about what goes in a child's personal records. Please don't let that be an issue that would cause you to deter from seeking help. I have never understood the concern about this file (I had one parent who was concerned about her child's future if she were to seek public office in twenty years) - however, I have heard it often enough to compel me to mention it. Help is help -- and the only matter of importance of that help is that it be successful.

I hope you find the assistance that proves beneficial to you and your family. Again, your daughter is lucky to have such a loving mom.

S.

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S.L.

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Crystal,
I had an acquaintance in high school who was dating a guy like this. He was older than her and already out of high school. Very demanding of her time. We were in band and he hated that because it did take most of our time preparing for competitions. Anyway after 3 years in the relationship, she started acting weird in school. She wasn't a "friend" of mine but we girls found out that he started beating her and other things that are really bad. We all stepped in and forced her to call the police and file a report. Her parents got a restraining order on him. He would still go to the school and finally got arrested for it. She was still unsure but was eventually happy that he was gone. She then found another boyfriend who treated her right and realized what she had gone through.
I don't think you need therapy. You need to keep strong, don't give up and I agree with the not going back to your hometown to visit father or grandmother for a while. Let the little bastard come to you. One thing he won't like is dealing with her mom. Also, get her dad to start telling her the same. He needs to confront this guy as well.
I also agree with one response that he is probably cheating on her. It usually is the case. The guy is a coward and probably makes your daughter feel bad about herself to keep her with him.
Good Luck! I hope all works out.

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D.

answers from Dallas on

Dear C.,
Oh boy...how helplesss you and your daughter both must feel. I know because as a young girl I tried it all. My parents were totally absent in my life wrapped up in their own fingers and toes, I was an only child with no direction and yet very high expectations on me from wealthy grandparnets who eventually disowned me because I did not go to Harvard Law School.
I was not as boy crazy, but got into drugs and drinking, partying and cutting school regularly. My firends were worse. My parents apatehtic if not uninterested. Eventually, at 15 I was in a serious car accident and broke both of my legs, among other injuries almost costing me my life. That did not stop me. Nor did it get my parents attention.
I ended up pregnant and had two abortions before I was 21. That did not stop me. Nor did it get my parents attention. That I am alive today is nothing short of a miracle. Boy did I learn a lot. This is all so hard to say but if it helps another young girl through a difficult time it is worth it. I wish somebody would have stopped me, however difficult that would have been, but alas I had no net to catch me...no one to fight for me...the bottom was unbearable.
I have two wonderful children now that I absolutely adore and that makes me even more vehement about my choices then and now. My regrets are absolutely overwhelming sometimes, but I feel hopeful that I can turn lemons into lemonade and be involved with my kids in such a way as to use my bad experiences to raise children who make better choices than I did. And who know that no matter what I love them with all my might and will slay lions tigers and bears for them at the drop of a hat. I learned that that is what I secretely wished for as a child gone astray.
Given that, and knowing what I know based on my own experiences, I would stop at absolutely nothing to protect my children, if even from themselves. Nothing is more worth fighting for than your children, as you know, but you must understand that sometimes the fight is in of itself enormous. I think the message of strength and a willingness to fight for her at all costs will give her hope and strength. Dont stop fighting for her...she cant fight for herself, she cant win right now so tell her you will fight for her and that you love her no matter what and then fight together. Be her advocate, her rock, her "go to" for the love, strenght and support she needs. She is lost and needs a lighthouse in this storm.
I can tell you if you are passive, or you hesitate that it can get worse, and it likely will. In my experence, I wish someone would have intervened therefore I feel you must do so in any and every way you can, immediately.
Her self esteem is badly shaken if not completely detached and no doubt is at the root of her not being able to say no or choose another path. She is absorbed if not addicted to the chaos and drama. His apparent strength is intoxicating, more and more so as she becomes awash without control. The more weight she gains, the more isolated she becomes, the worse she will feel and her actions will reflesct her hopelessness. It is a vicious cycle going down the tube. She is likely depressed, living in a cloud of despair making her thinking more askew.
I suggest thus you immediately get her into therapy with a psychiatrist, several times a week until you get thru the immediate crises of detaching her from this predator.
Also, find a mentor that she respects and admires, can relate to, or an activity that she likes and focus her on that. I was saved by my love of animals, in saving them I found and saved myself. Some people find God helpful, but as a "cool" teenager, that was not an option for me. Perhaps it would have helped my mother but I would not listen to any of that. You must find what works for HER.
I think it imperative that you get her to a therapist, and if necessary put her on an antidepressant. Divert her attention someway into something, anything that she enjoys other than that boy.
Finally in my mid twenties I checked myself into therapy. It took me many tries to find a doctor I could communicate with but it lead me on a tremendous path of discovery that literally changed my life. The work was hard and often heartbreaking. I tried many medications. In the end, I became an advocate of having that doctor to help me balance my thinking until I learned healthy ways to view the world, myself and my options. Slowly but surely I learned to make better choices, feel empowered and make a success of my life. I only wish it had happened so much earlier in my life.
Your daughter needs a lot right now, and I think a professional is at least appropriate. The options otherwise, suicide, homicide, pregnancy etc just cannot be a possibility for your little girl.
Lastly, if she likes animals we have many rescues, of every sort, each with their own story that we will be happy to share if you want to bring her out for a day. Sometimes an experience like that can bring a smile and a bit of hope. It gives one objectivity and a distraction. My children would be proud to share their animals with her, and the love and compassion that comes with caring for something meek and mild, or as noble as the horse. In the meantime, have faith, find your courage and feel free to contact me if you think I can help in any way. D.

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