Bullying- Sort Of

Updated on October 10, 2011
J.T. asks from College Station, TX
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We have had a very emotional week in our house. My son (11) had a very difficult day at school yesterday, dealing with friends. He had rocks thrown at him, was accused of hitting his classmates (when he says he didn't- I know the other child and he tends to lie). Anyway, this escalated into tears at home and him saying he was worthless, that if he died no one would care, they don't listen, etc.

How do I deal with this? Usually, stuff like this doesn't bother him and he can go a long time and take a lot before he snaps, but when he snaps, watch out. There is more to the story, but just know that I have a meeting with his teachers scheduled for next week. I want to go into that meeting with some ideas on how to deal with this. It is a very small school, the kids have been together a long time and they act like siblings.

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I have already talked to the teacher and the parent of one of the involved students. I have told my son that WE value him and that he needs to not listen to the other boys. The teachers (he has 2 regular) are fully aware of the situation and know the other kids involved are prone to lying and exaggeration. I a by no means saying my son is a saint- far from it. I know he can instigate. But in this case, he did not.
Jo- my son has a very long fuse. It takes a lot for him to react to some of the things they boys in his class put him through and I only hear about it when it truly bothers him- he is not a complainer.

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A.S.

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This is one big negative with smaller schools/classrooms . . . there are less places to go if you don't "click" with the group per se. We've been in that setting and I would not underestimate the damage it can do to a child's self esteem. My son is a very tough cookie, too, and doesn't complain easily either.

It's also one of the things I love about homeschooling (been at it for almost 5 years) - you can have a bad day at a group class - go home and re-group - and go back the next week. You don't spend all day every day with the same people year in an year out. It has also made my children appreciate their friends more (because they don't see them all the time).

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J.W.

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This actually does sound like bullying. I am assuming you mean your son loses his temper easily? That will make him a target of bullies. What makes it worse is kids that lose their temper easily are usually self loathing after they calm down.

On other thing that troubles me is him saying if he died no one would care. Is he watching the news without explanation of the events? I guess another way of asking is he parroting what he heard on the news last week? If he did not catch that phrase in the news might I suggest a therapist cause he may be going through worse than you know.

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F.H.

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I would not wait until next week to speak to the teacher, I would speak to her immediately. If it appears to truly be "bullying" then I would escalate it to the principal. Our school has a zero tollerance for bullying. But there always are 2 sides to the story and the teacher will probably know whats going on. If not, you son needs to be told to tell a teacher or someone in charge immediately so there is a "record" of it. Good luck!!!

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R.K.

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If he has feelings of worthlessness, get him talking about it. If he won't talk to you find a counselor he will talk to. He has to know he is loved and cherished.

A young man, 19, who worked (bussing tables at an IHOP) with my 24 yr old daughter commited suicide this summer. He was a great kid and a good worker, my daughter and one of the other managers used to 'fight' over who got this kid for their shift, because he was such a great guy to work with and a hard worker. On a Monday evening he was talking to my daughter and her boyfriend and playing with their kids, laughing and joking, everything seemed fine. Then he went home and hung himself, no warning no note, nothing. He often talked about his future and his plans. No one ever guessed he was that sad.

Sorry I don't mean to be a downer but kids need to know how much they are valued and no one should ever be allowed to make them feel bad about themselves.

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E.M.

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I'm sorry this is happening to your son. I looked up the following online:

http://www.scholastic.com/resources/article/bullying

It has some specific tactics you can take to work through it.

Good luck!

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C.O.

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having rocks thrown at him? Darn tooting that's bullying. If he was my son, i would call the police and file a report TODAY. Yeah - it's extreme but your son could've been gravely injured because of those twits.

I would NOT wait until NEXT WEEK...this needs to be resolved TODAY...e-mail the teacher, the school board supervisor and the principal - get it on record, tell them that you are filing a police report against the students who threw the rocks at your son and you will expect - no DEMAND - that they handle the students accordingly.

Tell your son that he IS valued. He IS loved...get him to counselor so that he can talk this out with a professional - to hear an 11 year old state something soooo sad would have me out there hunting those boys down - seriously. It would take my husband holding me back - probably tying me up (not exaggerating) to keep me from hunting those heathens down.

EDIT: J. - I never thought for a second your son was an angel or a saint - but there's a difference between boys calling each other names or MAYBE throwing a fist and throwing rocks...

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H.D.

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My heart goes out to him and you as his mom, I fear the day that I have to deal with kids teasing/bullying mine, especially my special needs child. By chance is there another school in the district you could transfer him to? It might be worth considering if it's affecting his grades, self esteem, etc... Maybe getting him away from that environment to start new would be a real boost of moral for him. GL!! Hugs to you and your child!

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M.P.

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My 8 yo grandson says similar self-loathing things when he's feeling sad. He's in a special school and receives all sorts of emotional support. His teacher is not concerned about it and we've learned that the best way to deal with this is to be sympathetic. We say, we know you're feeling bad but we want you to know that you are a good boy. (He cries and says he's a bad boy.) I hold him and let him cry.

This usually happens just before bed when he's tired. He will usually stop crying and fall asleep in 15-20 minutes. He does do this at school from time to time and they give him some emotional support. He can have some time to himself with an aide.

I think that one reason my grandson feels this way is that someone in his life is telling him he's a bad boy, perhaps not by using those words but by treating him as a bad boy. Perhaps by withdrawing love when he's not behaving appropriately. I know he gets spanked which is shaming. This creates self loathing instead of helping him to be confident in his ability to learn.

My grandson doesn't say he wants to die tho his demeanor seems to indicate that possibility. For me it indicates that he needs support. He needs to be told regularly that he's a good boy: be praised when he's doing well. I tell him often that I love him and that I'm so very glad he's in my life.

As to what to suggest at the school conference, I'd go in believing that this is bullying and discuss ways to stop it. This is not a new situation for the school. Schools, now a days, have plans in place for handling bullying. I would also ask that my son have time with the school counselor so that he can learn how to be more assertive and not wait until he snaps. I suggest that once he's more confident he'll be less of a victim.

When you say he snaps, I wonder if you're saying that he eventually responds by also throwing rocks. Frequently bullying creates more bullying going in both directions. When one defends himself in anger the result is more bullying behavior. Throwing a rock back creates more anger and a vicious cycle. Children need help to learn how to react to bullying so that they're not responding in anger that creates more serious behavior. My granddaughter's school has a teacher that teaches the children how to communicate so that there is less bullying. The teacher directly teaches ways to get along. My granddaughter is also 11.

When she was younger she was having difficulty with some bullies and she did react by hitting back. She was then given the opportunity to be in a Friendship Group in which they were taught how to handle these sorts of situations. The group also worked on building self-esteem.

Modified: I suggest that when your son is this upset his self esteem has hit bottom. It may be that he thinks he should not react by hitting back, etc. He's failed in his eyes. I suggest that the way to counter this is to tell him it's OK to get so angry but instead of doing this try walking away and telling a teacher how angry you are because those boys called me names or whatever happened. Emphasize that the feelings are OK. It's the action that you're wanting to help him change.

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J.T.

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ugh! a ton of my fb friends posts were about how they had a really bad day last week. i am not a cryer but i cried all day on tuesday. i usually go for MONTHS with out crying. One of my brothers is the same way we can take a lot from people but once that last little button is pushed watch out! I actually am out of the norm by thinking this sort of bullying is healthy! yep healthy. These are the days that we need to teach our kids how to handle situations to prepare them for adulthood. While I do feel horrible that someone was throwing rocks and lieing about him hitting. He needs to learn to stand up for himself. And as parents we need to help them deal with those emotions of rejection that i am sure he is feeling if he thinks he is worthless and no one would care and feeling that no one is listening or believeing. Ask your teacher if she has any advice on how to help your son deal with these thoughts and how to stand up for himself in a healthy way.

An example from when I was in jr high. Weggies, bra popping and pantsing (sp?) were the norm for lunch break. The girls and guys that quickly turned around and in a pit bull manner said "Do not do that" usually did not have as many encounters as the kids that were whiners (not that your son sounds like a whiner) and would say "ugh stoooop dooonnnt quuuuit it" . The part that stands out to me is how hard he is on himself. He needs some self assurance and to stop being so h*** o* himself by thinking he would be better off dead. There is a reason he is on this earth and he can cause great things to happen. I hope you can also find a daddypedia site and ask from a male point of view. Girls and boys rules of the "playground" are much different. Prayers for your son to achieve, over come and be a peace maker.

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Z.T.

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If it continues, threaten to press harrassment charges. I know here in Austin, there is zero tolerance for bullying. Bullying is being taken very serious. You might want to look into the Anti Bullying Bill. The school district should have someting in place. You have the right to exercise this right for your child. Don't back down. Keep at it until something done.

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