My 8 year old daughter has ADHD. She is very loud, she does not stop making noise, talks constantly and is impulsive with screaming and yelling at us. I have frequent migraines have explained to her that when she screams it makes my headache hurt much more, but it seems as though she does not even try to be a little bit quiet or maby it is that she doesn't understand, or is it that she just can't stop. Any insight would be appreciated. Any simple behavior modification techniques that someone with a migraine can use would be great. I usually end up yelling at her which makes my headache worse and makes her upset and yelling doesn't work anyway.
Thank you!
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I have an 8 yr old daughter that is also ADHD, we tried EVERYTHING. we did diet modification, tried every form of disapline, reward system out there. We've had to result to a counsier and medication. She is on vyvance and it's been like night and day. She is still her same goofy , crazy self , but she's able to control her self better and the disapline that hadn't been working before do work now.
I'd suggest telling her if she's going to make that much noise she needs to go to her room.
But don't count it being easy to send her to her room.
The American Academy of Pediatrics supports only two approaches for ADHD as effective: medication and behavior modification. Medication works best and is effective for something like 60-70% of cases (your doc can tell you exact % it's from a major published study.) Behavior modification alone can help but it's much much less effective. The combination is the most effective (but it's less that the sum of either approach added together.)
Don't think of medication a "last resort," that's like saying that insulin is a "last resort" for diabetes. These medicines are well-understood, they are usually stimulants that inhibit the re-uptake of dopamine and norepinephrine. They wear off completely and have few side effects. Consider them before you reject them.
I found a great book that helps with migranes (as well as a bunch of other stuff). It's called "Minding the Body, Mending the Mind."
Also, for your daughter, if you haven't tried this already, the Feingold Diet worked miracles for my baby sister when she was little. You can get more information at www.feingold.org.
Good luck!
My son is 8 and has Aspergers/ADHD. The excessive talking doesn't bother me too much(I don't get migraines). I try not to make as much of an issue about it at home because he's under enough pressure at school to sit still and be quiet. At least I can always tell what he's up to, even from several rooms away. I watch tv with the closed captioning because I can't listen to 2 things at once. Having my son listen to music with headphones works once in a while. Now he takes Concerta, and it has made a dramatic difference. We don't give it to him on the weekends because of the side effects.
Hi Sarah,
I was a long time sufferer of migraines, so my heart goes out to you!
If you are interested, I can help you with natural supplements for both you and your daughter. If you go to http://www.bobfiles.net there is tons of information available on nutrition and supplements.
Also, there is a scrub brushing technique that helps children with sensory perception disorders. Maybe you could find a pediatric occupational therapist who could help you with that.
Good luck and God bless.
Victoria
p.s. I was Wallingford last August visiting my SIL. What a pretty town.
Hi there. I have a 9 year old son that was diagnosed with ADHD since he is 5 years old. I have tried the behavior modification techniques with him and they have not worked. Unfortunately they have no control over the way that they are acting . Its the hyperactivity of the disorder. I know that having migraines doesnt make it any easier either since i suffer from them as well. Do you have your daughter on any medication. My son is on Concerta and it helps a great deal with the hyperactivity part of the ADHD. Yelling only makes your migraine get worse and makes them act out more. elieve me, I have learned the hard way. If you have any questions please feel free to email me at ____@____.com and I will try my best to help you in any way I can
I would love to share with you the nutritional advice I learned recently re nutrition and brain chemistry from a nutritionist in Utah. It could really shift things for you and for your child. I'd be happy to give you more information. I know that he has helped many people with ADHD and with autism. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt you re your migraines, either.
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She cannot control herself, it is not that she does not want to. Is there a reason she is not in treatment already with a trained therapist? I don't know what your insurance will cover, but look into professional help. My daughter has ADD and I thought I was handling it well until we began seeing a therapist. Things are so much better, it is like magic.
Hi Sarah
Wow! Have you tried the techniques in a book titled 1,2,3 Magic? They have 2 versions -- one is specifically written for the Christian parent, one not.
I have seen it work 75% including the other kids in the house. I would call this book one that uses behavior modification techniques. It also changed how my friend reacted.
I am assuming that you have a MD diagnosis, and that you have tried allergy diets, especially be careful of artificial colors & flavors, I had good results with the feingold diet, but not everyone does. We later found our son was lacking an enzyme for digestion of sugar, when he flat lined a glucose tolerance test. I don't recommend that, but the feingold diet is worth a look, although difficult. My friend had tried it and everything else including some brain therapy techniques, nothing worked til she hit upon the techniques in this 1,2,3 Magic book. Maybe they will work for you too.
God bless you and your family
Check the food you give her is proper as certain foods with cause sudden outburts. What types of services is she in? Perhaps you can take her to see a behavioral therapist, or a social worker for play therapy.
All in all, don't let her get away with misbehaving. Children have a way of taking something, such as this and using it to their advantage as an excuse not to misbehave, be disrespectful and disobedient.
Find an EFT practitioner or a workshop to learn Emotional Freedom Techniques. Energy tapping is an effective tool that is likened to acupuncture without needles. You can develop it into a skill by using it every day. It atkes only minutes & you can use it on yourself daily to manage stress and dispel any negative feelings or physical discomfort. You can also use it on your daughter to calm her. Headaches are almost always caused by self-critical thoughts. Use tapping at the first sign (lights etc) of a migraine. I taught it to a woman a year ago and she hasnt had a migraine since. My son & hubby have ADHD and energy tapping has changed my life. See emofree.com site for class info.
Hi Sarah,
Ow! I can't imagine dealing with an ADHD child AND MIGRAINES!
How have you survived THIS long?
I haven't read the other answers you've received (yet), but I have three suggestions for you.
1. Therapy for your daughter. Just the idea of seeing a therapist once a week or so might wake her up a bit. Also, if your daughter is kept busy, perhaps she won't be inclined to be so vocal.
2. When your daughter "goes off", WALK AWAY. If she doesn't have anyone around to listen to her rant, perhaps she'll stop. If she follows you to your bedroom, lock your door.
3. Many years after suffering migraines, I found a way to PREVENT them. Stretching. I stretch about an hour a day. It keeps the spinal column loose and helps curtail the stress buildup that brings on a migraine.
Feel free to contact me for the exercise routine, if you'd like.
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Good luck!
"Grams"
from the Pocono Mts. of PA
I've been researching this for health for my husband and myself. I'm just putting it out there because you never know what will help people.
God bless,
G.
Hello, My neice was diagnosed supposedly with A.D.D... though after I researched found there were so many other aliments that can mimic ADD, ADHD .. even something like an UNdiagnosed INNER EAR INFECTION!! I was shocked at how often it goes MIS-diagnosed (ADHD) Many times it's Diet related too, the Additives these days, sugars (in so many hidden forms), and/or poor diets. I know a friend who wondered why her daughter was failing in school & come to find she'd miss breakfast and/or just grab a donut or Pop Tart or sugar-filled Cereals! Not enough fruits, veggies. So it's those very things that can have a HUGE impact Yet how RARE is it for a Doctor to ask "well what are you feeding your child"? "does he/she eat breakfast"? "how is he/she sleeping"? "excercising"? "let me check for inner ear infecton FIRST"? No, typically they rush to ADD/ADHD & then it's med's lilke Rydlin (omg) & round you go. I urge parents to do their OWN research, these days its just TOO easy w/ available search engines like Google to read up on the MANY OTHER ailments your child can have that MIMIC ADHD. So, too, MIgranes --- many times are Stress & Diet related.. I suffer from migranes so I know when I'm stressed and/or don't eat right, the fuzzy lines start in my eyes & I know what's coming next!! nauseau, headache, etc. So my advice is--- take a good look at diet... remember it's old but still true: "we are what we eat".. Good luck.
It sounds like she isn't being treated for the ADHD? No medication? Or are you talking about the time when the medication isn't active?
If she's on medication, it sounds like the dosage or medication isn't quite right. When it's active, her behavior should be in the normal range. Definitely contact her psychiatrist about a medication adjustment if all isn't going well. There aren't really any behavior modification techniques we've found that do anything when the medication isn't active (we tried it all before trying medication). The Concerta is what gets our son's dopamine levels in his brain in balance and he's a normal, happy kid (and we're normal, happy parents). We can then apply the behavioral techniques we learned from his behavioral therapist and see results. When the medication isn't active, it's a zoo and there's nothing that can change that because his behavior is out of his control.
If you haven't already, consider joining CHADD to connect with other parents dealing with ADHD.
Good luck!
I have a three year old that I'm pretty certain may be diagnosed with ADHD at some point. I have heard of additives in food that can cause problems with hyperactivity. I haven't done much research on it yet, but I have heard of the Feingold diet. There's a cookbook at the library I was going to check into. I personally have noticed a difference after she eats certain foods. It may be worth checking with a dietician. Food may be one small piece of the puzzle, but it still may be an important piece to look at.
I can tell you this, we will look at food and behavior techniques before we put her on medication. Medication will be only a last resort if needed.
I wish you the best and if you find out anything that helps you, please let me know.
P.S. I asked Mamapedia if there would be a way to have groups on here for Moms who have frequent questions regarding the same subject matter. It would be a great place for all of us with children of ADHD to connect and help each other.
K.
