Nighttime Potty Training - APO,AP

Updated on March 28, 2013
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My daughter is 2 yrs 8 months old. She has been fully potty trained during the day (panties, hardly any accidents) since she was 18 months. As far as her motor skills go she is fully capable of potty independence, getting her pants off by herself, hopping on the potty, wiping, flushing, and pulling them back up. She has been in pull ups at night until this week. Honestly the first night we took her out of pull ups it was just because I forgot to buy more and we were out! We cut off her liquids 2 hours before bed, had her potty twice (once about 30 minutes before bed and then again right at bedtime), encouraged her to go potty at night if she woke up, and hoped for the best. The first night in panties she was dry, the second night she was dry all night until about 6am, she peed about 30 mins before waking up, and the third night she was dry. But then after that she's been wet every night. Is she just too young? I almost dont want to go back to pull ups though since we already told her she was big enough for panties, and she has a plastic mattress so it's not hard to wash a fitted sheet in the morning. Should I just keep doing what I'm doing and see how long it takes, and just continue to praise her whenever she actually does manage to stay dry? I know some parents will wake their kids up to potty at night, that is one thing I won't do. I already have to wake up with a baby at night, I'd rather not wake a toddler as well who will undoubtedly be cranky from being woken up. Occasionally she wakes up at night to potty, and if she does and needs help I will get up with her, but I do not want to wake her on purpose. Besides that the ultimate goal is for her to hold it while she sleeps, not wake up. Is there some other trick I'm missing that could help? Or should I just tell her it's ok and she's not ready for panties yet, and try again when she's older?

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Thanks everyone for the responses. First I would like to clear up my original post, because a lot of people seem hung up on the wording. I realize you cannot "train" at night in the sense that it is not a conscious choice for her to pee during her sleep. She cannot help it and it is a process her body simply has to learn on its own. However, I do think that things like cutting liquids and gentle reminders to pee if she does happen to wake up at night will help her stay dry, if nothing other than they will minimize the amount of liquid actually in her bladder. That being said, me and my husband talked, and I also asked my daughter if she wanted to keep wearing panties or go back to pull ups, and she said panties, so we decided to stick with the panties. The thing is, if she pees at night we don't make a big deal of it, we just tell her we'll try again the next night to stay dry and it's ok. And it doesn't bother her. She will still sleep through the night even if her sheets are wet, and she doesn't get upset the next day, she just pulls new panties out of her drawer and brings them to me. So as long as it's not hindering her sleep cycle, and is not emotionally problematic for her, we decided there's no reason not to let her continue to wear panties, and it's no big deal for me to just toss a sheet in the wash in the morning.

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T.S.

answers from Washington DC on

Nighttime dryness is physiological not an issue of will. The "training" goes in the opposite direction from day training. Sadly, no amount of praise for staying try, cute panties, or wanting to be a big girl will keep her dry in her sleep until she's ready. She can't stay dry at night just because she WANTS to. You honestly should have waited until she was consistently waking up dry to ditch the pull up. There's nothing to "try again when she's older" you need to wait until she is ALREADY dry through the night, and stop using a diaper/pullup at night when they are not needed.

How about picking up some cloth trainers (they sell Charlie Banana cloth diapers and trainers at Target now)... not the Gerber thick panties, but cloth that really can hold pee and has a waterproof outer. They can just be "nighttime panties." She'll feel a little wet if she pees, but it won't make a mess. (Even if it doesn't bother you to change the sheets, you don't want her to be the kid who smells like pee because she laid in it and it got in her hair and you didn't have time to wash it... :-/ )

Hope this helps,
T.

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R.R.

answers from Los Angeles on

There is no such thing as night training, her body will hold it all night when it physically can, which honestly may not be for years.

My advice is to not use pullups, they're diapers and little ones feel comfortable going in them. Rather get cloth trainers like Gerber's and put a cover over them in case she wets. She may feel herself start to go in them and get up and go. And you can keep a potty in her room to make it a shorter distance for her to go during the night, just make it part of your morning routine to clean it if needed.

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G.B.

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This question is asked almost every day and we all answer the same answer over and over. So to save time typing for me...lol...please use the search bar on the top and type in night time potty training. There's really no such thing and it's good that you don't plan on waking her up because all she'll do is tighten up her vaginal muscles and clench down. So she won't go. She'll pee as soon as she's laying down again.

Limiting fluids doesn't work because if she doesn't feel full she won't wake up. If the chemical that tells her kidneys to stop producing urine hasn't started sending that message yet then there is absolutely no use taking her out of pull ups.

Since she's already out of pull ups and you don't mind how much more expensive it is to wash bedding every day than it is to use a daily pull up then use underwear.

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S.H.

answers from Honolulu on

Nighttime Dryness... is NOT the same as day time pottying or organ control.
And it does not happen, at the same time.
Nighttime dryness, does not occur, even until 7 years old. Or later.
AND no matter what, there WILL BE accidents.
It is childhood.
This is childhood.
Even Kindergarten kids, have accidents.
Normal.
Even my daughter's Teachers, ALL said that, unanimously.
These are Teachers from Preschool to Kindergarten and even 1st grade.

Your daughter is too young, and so young, and it is her body.

You either force the issue and expect her body to do what it is not yet ready to do biologically and then have emotional/psychological stress, or not and she getting negatively affected by it. Or you allow her body to develop naturally.
It is the organs, that are still developing, the brain/bladder/myelin nerve sheath development. And you cannot speed this up. It is organ, development.

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P.G.

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She doesn't hold it, her body does. It's not ready. Pullups at night. One day, she'll start being dry - anywhere between 3-7 years old depending on the kid.

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C.W.

answers from Washington DC on

Honestly, she is way too young for night time potty training. Some kids don't master this until they are 7 or older. The bladder brain connection is just not mature enough this young. Now, sometimes a parent gets lucky and their kid just gets it. Both of my kids were 4 when they were able to go without the pull up. For both of them from 3 on (when they were daytime trained), I put a small potty in their rooms so they didn't have to try to find the bathroom by themselves at night. My daughter used it and it worked wonders for her. I guess it really depends on how much laundry you want to do. My son dumped the night time pull ups long before he was ready (he was very very stubborn about it), add to that, he refused to sleep in a bed and would sleep on the carpet in front of the door. I don't know how many times he would wake and be soaked and the carpet would reek. He learned at an early age how to change himself though. If she is willing, put her back in a pull up until she wakes up dry 2 weeks in a row. Then you will know she is ready. Tell her you don't want to disrupt her sleep worrying about going potty.

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P.M.

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The ultimate goal is not actually to have the child hold it until morning, the ultimate goal is for the body systems to be mature enough for a nighttime hormone that suppresses urine production to come on-line. This results in a less-full bladder that is possible to hold all night.

In some kids, this process matures earlier even than potty training, but usually it happens no earlier than. Occasionally children will not get there until puberty or so, poor kids. Puts a real hitch in sleepovers, and often parents interpret this as bad behavior or laziness.

Since your daughter has the occasional dry night, she might be close. But it's not necessarily a straight-ahead process, children often have flurries of night wetting, especially if there are any major changes in their lives. The emotions are tangled into hormone production in interesting and often unpredictable ways.

Explain to your daughter that her brain is ready for big-girl panties, but her body might not be just yet. There is no shame in using diapers overnight – maybe she'd even like to wear her pretty panties over the diaper (which you could reasonably re-use if she stays dry some nights). However, sometimes parents do have success with the approach you're using if the child is close enough.

Wishing you all the best!

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M.D.

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I am in the obvious minority here, but I say keep going the way you are going. I used pull ups for my daughter at night and it took a looooooong time for her to learn how to be dry at night. The process is harder when they are older. My son was a completely different story. When we started potty training in the day and I knew he understood the process, we ditched the pull ups at night. Honestly I think he maybe used one pack of them total. He only had a few accidents before he mastered it. To each their own, there is no right answer. I say go with your gut.

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J.C.

answers from Anchorage on

Her body will be ready when it is ready, it is not something she can learn. Most kids reach this stage between the ages of 2-6, but some kids it comes even later, with 7-9 not being uncommon. A childhood friend of mine was almost 14. I kept my kids in pull ups at night until they woke up every morning for a full month dry. My first was 2 when this happened, by youngest almost 4. The age they day train as no bearing on when they will be capable of night dryness since it is not a learned behavior.

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B.C.

answers from Norfolk on

Her body will mature (bladder capacity, chemical signals to slow down making urine at night, send a wake up signal when bladder is full) at it's own pace no matter what you do.
Some kids achieve dryness through the night much earlier than others while others will have bed wetting issues till they are 11 or 12 years old.
My son was day trained at 3.5.
Personally I didn't want to deal with a wet bed on a regular basis so our son stayed in pullups at night till he woke up dry for 2 solid weeks in a row.
He was 7.5 when we were finally finished with pullups for good.

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K.A.

answers from San Diego on

My boys were around 5-6 before they were physically ready to go the night without a pull-up. My daughter is nearing 4 and can not stay dry at night yet. You could be doing a lot of extra laundry for a very long time if you keep her in panties when she's not ready for them. No amounts of tricks will get their body to mature faster. Night time is nothing like daytime. There is no training for night because they have no control over it at all.
Put her back in pull-ups, tell her she's still a big girl but her body still has some growing to do.
I waited until they were dry a full month before ditching the nighttime pull-up.

M.B.

answers from Tampa on

I agree with MommyDoodle, keep doing what your doing. My son was FULLY day and night trained by 2 1/2! And I can count the number of accidents since, and only cause he was sick. Stick to it, unless she asks for the pull ups :)

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E.C.

answers from Los Angeles on

It's really your call. Will she be upset waking up wet? Or does she not care? If it does more harm than good, maybe wait a bit longer. If you're fine changing sheets in the middle of the night and she's fine waking up wet, then you could keep her in panties at night and see how she goes.

My oldest (6) is still in pullups at night, while my 4 year old has been 100% day and nighttime potty trained since just after age 2. All kids are different and you just need to find what works for you and your daughter.

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