B.R. asks from Claremore, OK on February 21, 2008
Mom-in-law Is Trying to Ruin My Marriage
HELP! How do I deal with a controlling, manipulative mother-in-law? Seriously, I think she wants nothing more than me to disappear! My husband has been the only parent to his 2 children, their mother hasn't been in their lives at all. So, his mom (grandma) basically was their mom. Prior to our marriage in November all was well, I was wonderful, an answer to her prayer blah blah blah. Then we set some boundaries to her access to the kids, she wants to pick them up when she wants, bring them home when she wants with no regard to us as parents or the 3 other children at home or the fact that I do child care out of my home. She flipped! We have had to seriously cut her back because she became very vindictive and ugly towards me. Now, because she hasn't gotten her way the family has made threats to call DHS. I feel like I am in over my head. Do I give in? I really don't want my way, but she wreaks havoc when she leaves. Everyone in the family say she has always been given her way, especially with my husband. He basically let her be the parent, if she wanted to do something or change his plans he 'let her do her thing'. Now, here comes me who has to consider 5 kids plus babysitting. It has been awful and as if having 5 kids and being a newlywed isn't enough we have to deal with this. I have refused to speak to her or be at any famiyl function, but I know this can't continue. At family functions she congregates all the girls (her puppets as I call them) and I am completely left out. If I try to make conversation she does the hair flip, and doesn't acknowledge I even spoke. HELP! My husband is trying really he is. He is just so torn, and knows how she can be and I think he somewhat fears that. HELP!
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T.P. answers from Mobile on February 22, 2008
My MIL hated me for 5 years. No kidding. Regardless of what I tried to do to endear myself to her, she was never happy. My husband finally confronted her and his father. She threw herself in the floor. NO KIDDING!! Wailing and blaming me for everything. We went through 6 months of silence where she did not even see the children for Christmas. It was terrible... but we all survived. What changed? First, we prayed a lot! "God if you do not want to change here, then change me." And, we had friends praying too. Then, we read Toxic Inlaws by Susan Forward. Great book. Learned lots, especially my husband. His eyes were really opened. (Another great book is The Mom Factor.) Last, I wrote Dr. Phil, never expecting to be invited to the show but when we were invited, the producer said that my inlaws had to come too. My husband called them. (We had not spoken in 6 months.) They refused but two weeks later, I felt like God wanted us to invite them over for dinner. We did and they both apologized to me for everything unprompted. Our relationship is completely changed now. I am not sure what it was that made the difference but I think it was probably the combination of everything. There is hope for you too. {{{Hugs}}}
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K.L. answers from Pine Bluff on February 21, 2008
I don't think she is trying to ruin your marriage; it is hard for her to let go because she has been the mother of these children. However, the confusion is not good for your young marriage or the children. And even with this, how you handle this adversity should be an example for the children to follow in the future when dealing with theirs. Your husband is the one that needs to handle this, it is his mother and he should maintain the peace in his household. She is striving for a place in this new relationship; work with her in love (change is difficult for the best of us). It is clear that you have issues as well because your being left out is your choice - you don't have to be in her conversations to be involved. Your anger will lead to wrong choices if you guys don't deal with this. What is there to fear? Are you doing something wrong? If you stand up for right, though someone's feelings may be hurt, things will work out for the best in the long term. Right isn't always easy, but it is always best. You and your husband need to get on one accord and make your decision out of love,not anger. Then call you immediate family, your children, together and discuss it. Then talk to his mother, one-on-one to avoid embarassment or distraction. Let her know all her love, time and work has been deeply appreciated. Tell her what decision the two of you have made and stand together on that decision. If it is made out of love, it will work out. If you and your husband are not on one accord, just pray, because you have bigger problems than this.
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D.M. answers from New Orleans on February 22, 2008
well to stop all the business in your household i would let go of baby sitting an just focus on all the children who need all of your husbands an your attention. as for mother i would take full control of the situation the children would only come an go with her when its good for you an your husband you must set guidelines in your household so you an your hubby always have the upper hand in everything an what you 2 deside never ever waver stand your ground for all of the children an let the older ones no what is going on it will work. i hope this helps somewhat everything has to change for the better. go for it. wwjd kindly, D.M.
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C.W. answers from Alexandria on February 22, 2008
Hi B., I know exactly what you are going through because I too have a controlling and manipulative mother-in-law. What helped my family is telling my husband how I felt and what I would not allow anymore. He in turn told his Mom that what she was doing was upsetting me and not what we, as a family wanted. He told her that if she wouldn't comply and stop making a mess of things, that she would not be able to see the children at all. It took a while, but she started to come around the bit.Also, you may have to tell her what you will not allow her to do with the children, and what it's doing to your family. My mother-in-law was good for lots of things, and clearly loves the children. When she overstepped her bounds I told her, and distanced us from her. She realized that I would stand up to her, and didn't need my husband to fight for our wishes all the time. I really doubt his family will call DHS on you guys, because I'm thinking that would be the last straw for your husband. Don't let those empty threats bother you, they first have to have proof. I would still go to family functions, although it's hard when you're being ignored. Going to the functions is good for the children, especially the 3 that are not his, to continually feel included and bond with other family members. Try to smile through it all, and keep giving your best. Maybe you and your husband can use little cues that can let him know when you've had enough and it may be time for him to show his face, or for you all to just leave. Sometimes just the sight of my husband, or him givng some family banter would keep her on her best behavior. And if you guys stay at the function for just a short time, there's no harm in that. I know this is rather lengthy, but I know what you're going through. I hope I've been helpful. With all that you have going on, the last thing you need is mess from your mother-in-law. Take care.
J.N. answers from Jackson on February 21, 2008
You are definitely in a tough situation. Your mil was the "parent" as you said for a long time and now she should realize that someone else has taken that role. I think that it is up to your husband to put his foot down. When you get married, you cleave to your wife and not your parents anymore. He needs to be firm, but loving. Maybe all 3 of you could come to some sort of agreement with the visiting and such. I really wish you luck and hope that you get this resolved soon. Kudos to you for being a mom to your stepkids as well.
J.T. answers from Oklahoma City on February 21, 2008
I think it is important for your husband to take a stand. You should talk to them together and express to them that we think it is important and what's best for the children, their adjustment to the new marriage and each other, to develop a routine and a familiarity with their new family life which includes ALL the family.
I can see why gma thinks she rules the rooste given the control it appears she had before the marriage, and it would certainly be tough for anyone to have limited exposure to the darling children they've spent so much time with. I wonder if maybe the kids feel a void also? You might consider whether it would help gma's attitude and also be good for the kids to schedule a weekly (or whatever you're comfortable with) time to have special gma time. I.e., every Friday after school or Sunday after church for a specified number of hours. You could also let her know that you're not opposed to other times (I'm assuming you're not), but that the world cannot revolve around her and that she will need to have enough respect for you and your husband and the kids to be courteous enough to check in first.
The DHS aspect is particularly concerning. I would disagree w/ the mom who said to make a preemptive call to DHS. Unless there is actually a concern, it is never a good idea to have the government involved in our family life when there is not a good reason like a child who is in danger. (Do you have dealings w/ them anyway b/c of the inhome child care? You may want to consider whether you should for that reason, I'm not sure how many children you must care for before DHS requires licensing, but if I were you I would read up and take care of anything of that nature now, b4 your mil introduces DHS.) Unless you are worried about the safety of the children when they're with mil (in which case you should ban all access), DHS is not the way to go. I would take some basic precautions like removing mil from list of authorized persons to pick kids up from school, get medical information etc., and this may sound silly, but if you come to an agreement about regular gma time, put it in writing. Not to commit or obligate you to provide her with time, but to set out the paramaters. It sounds like there is ample justification based on her behavior, and there is no shame in stating it, and having her agree to abide by your terms when spending time with the kids. i.e. I will bring the children home by 5pm, will not give them ___ food, or whatever your major issues of concern are. Good Luck!
H.K. answers from Oklahoma City on February 21, 2008
Oh B. I do so feel your pain my dear...
I married a wonderful man 8 years ago this June... unfortunately I also married his Mother and Father... both of them think that they should STILL be able to tell their children what to do and how to raise their kids... they have absolutely no regard what so ever for our wishes... both myself and my nephew have food allergies... and neither one of them pay any attention to the fact that consuming these certain food cause serious problems for both of us... they have even gone as far to say, "It's your problem why should we suffer for it?" We have asked them not to bring chocolate or other "sweets" to our children but they do not listen and bring them anyway and tell us that they should be able to give THEIR grand kids what ever they want... needless to say it has caused many many many, arguments... the mother in law tried successfully for 2 years to keep myself and my sister-in-law separated... we were lied to over and over again and both me and Jen, though the other hated each other... we soon figured out that our mother-in-law had been lying to us... because of her actions my husband and I missed out on the first two years of our beautiful niece's life... we are quite involved with her and her baby brother now...
now what can you do? honestly? not much... if she does call DHS be prepared for an inquiry... and if she is making threats, call the police... have a VPO placed against her... she does NOT have the right to just come and pick up your kids... it's called kidnapping... and if she goes to school and picks them up without your permission, have her arrested... I know that sounds harsh, but she is not their parent... she is their grandparent... she has no rights to the children... unless her son passes away and they are the only part of him left, then she would have a few rights but since this isn't the case, she needs to back off...
She is treating you this way so you will back down and give in to her... DO NOT DO IT! Stand up to her... it sounds like no one has ever done this to her and she is just acting like a 2 year old to get her way... in the end she may respect you for standing up to her and being a good parent...
tell her that you are trying to establish a routine with the kids and that her just showing up when ever unannounced is just unacceptable and it disrupts the routine you have with the kids... it also interferes with your home daycare and that in itself is unsafe... if she still continues to do this, make it perfectly clear to her that she will be completely cut off from the kids until she can get her act straightened up...
it boils down to you standing your ground and being the best parent you can be and not letting her run your life... Tell her, "You raised your kids, let me raise mine. If I need your help I will ask for it."
Don't be rude, but be firm! You can do it! I have faith in you!
Hopefully your husband has told her the same things and she knows that BOTH of you feel this way... if he hasn't said anything to her then she may feel this is completely one sided and doesn't have to listen to you since HE is HER son and you are just someone he married... Sucks that they think like this but that is how it is... specially with my in-laws... of course since we had a girl, we aren't harassed as much as his brother is... his brother had the "male heir" and little Will is the only child that matters when everyone gets together... they have three grandchildren and they ignore the girls... my sister-in-law and I both absolutely LOATHE our in-laws... they are the biggest bigots on the planet and we don't want them rubbing off on our kids... so, once again, I feel your pain... and I hope I have been able to help you a little... feel free to email me if you'd like...
ok with that said, my little one has left me some "presents"... the aroma has drifted over here and I must go "exchange" the gifts she left me for something more pleasant lol...
Good luck!
H. K
Yukon
Mamma to JDBug, 6 month old baby girl
A.Y. answers from Jackson on February 21, 2008
maybe you should call her and call a truce ask her to lunch and tell her that you aren't trying to tep on her toes that you inderstand that this is all new but you feel out of control and ask her is there a happy medium for all of you instead of you and her reacting seperately act together to get one decision... i have had to swallow my pride more than once about my child... sometimes you just have to realize that there is more at stake than just your pride
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