K.J. asks from Spring Hill, TN on August 30, 2010
Husband's Lack of Family Activity-Is This Normal?
Hi, Mommas! I have a question about something that has been bothering for some time now. My husband never does anything with me and my daughter. On the rare occasion he does, he is always unhappy and antsy to get home. He will also pout about for the rest of the evening and/or talk about what a waste it was. I know so many families who go out and do things together, and growing up I always figured it was normal for the entire family to go out together. It seems like any time I do something, it is always just me and my daughter. I often feel like a 'single married mom'.
For example, he doesn't go to the grocery store with us, I usually do most of it while he is at work but on nights or weekends, if I even ask him he gets upset about it. He also doesn't go to birthday parties, dinner, family gatherings, or to run other errands. I love being able to go see my friends and let my daughter interact with other children, but sometimes it just feels weird to show up at a family gathering without my entire family. He also hates doing anything that is fun for my daughter. He won't go to the park with us, take her to children's play places like a children's museum or the cute little town play place for children. If for some reason he is out with us and my daughter has been couped up in the car or shopping cart all day and I even mention that it would be nice to take her to the mall play place to let her run around a little (which only seems fair to me after several hours of forced stillness), he will get upset with me and say no. I even go to visit my own family (an hour away) with just the two of us. He would rather spend all that time playing games on his computer.
For a while, it annoyed me, especially since it is so hard to run errands with a baby who is turning into a young toddler. Then for a while, it didn't bother me so much because I just accepted the fact that this is how our life would be so if I didn't expect anything from him, then the disappointment wouldn't be so great any time I was let down. Now, it is slowly starting to get to me again. My friends always joke that I made up my husband and that he doesn't really exist because he has never met them. At first it was funny, but now I think that it is soooo true. How sad that they have never even laid eyes on my husband!!
I just wanted to get this out there to see if maybe I am wrong about this. Am I expecting too much for him to do stuff with us? I will say that he does work hard and provides well for our family so I can stay at home with my now 17 month old daughter. Because of that, I feel he deserves some free time to do what whatever he likes even if that is playing games on the computer. However, I feel that we have a family now, so I would also like him to participate in at least half the things we do, especially family gatherings like birthday parties. Let me know what you think and tell me if I'm wrong. You mommas always have such great advice, so I thought you would be able to help me on this one, too. Thanks mommas!
Edit- I am so glad for all the answers and would like to make a few clarifications. When I say 'family' events, I don't mean my or his relatives, I mean gatherings where small families come together to watch a football game or grill. We are new to our area and I am just now meeting other moms. While most of what we do is for moms and children, on the weekends they sometimes do things for the entire family and I am almost always the only one who shows up husbandless. The other women that do only do so because their husbands are out of town on business.
Also, my husband is like this at home as well. The only thing he does is spend 15 minutes every night bathing her so that I have some time to clean the kitchen and living room (all her toys are in our living room so it gets quite messy ^_^). He won't watch her while I go to the store or anything like that so I haven't been able to buy myself new clothing since I have lost weight or anything that requires me to try on before I buy since my daughter won't tolerate it. The only night I have had to myself since my daughter was a concert I went to with an old friend AND the only reason I was able to go was because I drove the hour to my mom's house to drop off my daughter before driving 45 minutes back the other direction to meet my friend, then did it all over again after it was over. She is always with me, attached to my hip.
The only family vacation we have been on was just to visit my inlaws. We have been on two mini vacations (two nights each), but both of those were without my daughter since he didn't want to take her. We drove three and a half hours to my inlaws both times so they could watch her.
He only went to two of my prenatal appointments; one for the ultrasound when we were finding out gender (where he pouted because it was a girl and not a boy and wouldn't participate in any conversation the rest of the day even though my mom drove 3.5 hours to be with us and we had to cancel lunch because he didn't want to go anymore) and one when I was having a few complications. He was not at all excited about the pregnancy (it was unplanned). He only felt her move once and after that stayed as far away from my belly as possible because 'it was weird'. He also only attended her one week old check up and after that hasn't been to any other doctor's appointments because 'its boring'.
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M.R. answers from Columbus on August 30, 2010
The two of you sound very different. Was he like this before you got married? If he was, and you ignored it or expected him to change, you know that won't work, but if he was the one who changed, maybe he should see a professional. Drastic changes in personality, being "antsy" in public, a preference for the solitary experience of computer games could all be signs of a depressed state of mind.
If you married a loner, you may just have to accept him, but if not, you should try to help him get healthy.
M.
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M.C. answers from Washington DC on August 30, 2010
My hubby and I were just talking about this last night!
We aren't addicted to gaming, but we have completely different interests. He HATES crowds and I love them if it means that I get to experience something. He'd rather do things around the house or go ATV riding.
We went to the fair with his family, he didn't go.
I go to my parents' house, he rarely comes unless its family dinner.
I like to take day trips, he likes only the ones to the country.
I don't have any real advice than to say that you are not alone.
M.
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L.M. answers from Norfolk on August 30, 2010
I would not be so concerned with his disinterest in grocery shopping or hanging out with your friends. The thing that really bothers me is that he doesn't want to do any of the fun stuff with your daughter and would rather deny her the fun activity than man up and deal with it. Shame on him. Being a good provider is more than earning money. It is providing opportunity to grow, develop and have fun. It is also about providing something of yourself to your child, rather than staying attached to the computer or TV at any opportunity.
Hopefully, this is not indicative of larger, underlying problems. Best wishes to you and your daughter.
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M.R. answers from Boston on August 30, 2010
I really feel for you in this predicament but moreover, I feel for your daughter. Why do I say this? Because I was THAT child when I was growing up. My mother would take me places and I had a lot of friends but neither one of my parents ever wanted to be around family and I never really grew up knowing my cousins, grandparents, etc. all that well. Everythime other kids talked about their extended families, I was left sitting there speechless....I had nothing to compare it to. As my parents became entwined in their careers and also involved in a more dysfunctional marriage, all they did was work and then come home and repeat the same things over and over. We didn't really go places, take vacations, or spend any time together doing special things. Sure, I had tons of friends that I hung around and played sports, went to the best schools, had nice things....but I did not have "family time". As I grew up, I was always attracted to boys with large, bubbly families that were tight-knit and always seemed to be doing things together. It filled the void of things that I always wished I had. At 23, I married my college sweetheart and I also married into a huge, festive, fun-loving, and tight-knit Irish family. Give these people a reason to have a family gathering and they will be at your house in 10 minutes! I learned how to entertain, throw wonderful parties, cook for large events, and most of all.....I learned the value of family time and love. I am still married today to the same man and have been for 18 years. Although my in-laws have passed and everyone is getting older, we raised our two beautiful daughters with extra doses of family gatherings, trips, vacations, outings, and togetherness. Have kids...will travel. Everything I ever wanted in my life, I have extended to my children and funny as it is, my youngest brother saddled up with me and is now part of our close-knit clan as well. I have another brother who took after the reclusive and anti-social side of my family and we never see the guy hardly ever. Sad, but true and I can't waste time or tears over him if he doesn't want to be a part of something great. All I can say here is that maybe you should really look at what is going on here in your life and decide what YOU want and what you think is best for your daughter as she grows. Having an absentee parent that just marinates on the couch or infront of the computer is just the same as not having a parent around at all. Believe me, I would know. Parenting involves time....quality time.....not just an occasional stroll to the park or showing up at the "once in a blue moon family event." All the parents out there who do this and thinks it's okay are in for a surprise from their kids one day. Just like me, they might walk out the door at 18 and decide that your attention has not been given, your time was never there, and that they are tired of hoping, wishing, and dreaming for it to happen. Hopefully, they will be like me and make their own wishes, hopes, and dreams come true because I can't imagine the people who don't have the where-with-all to make it happen. It's just too sad to think about. Just wanted to give you advice from a different perspective. I am a mom of two but I was your 17 month old daughter at one point too. You are a wonderful mom...follow your instincts here and get what YOU want. YOU ARE 100% RIGHT!!!!!
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M.L. answers from Houston on August 30, 2010
I almost left my husband when he spent all of his free time playing video games. I told him it was the games.. or his family, and we were leaving and would be back when he decided to be part of the family again. It was depressing, confusing, I felt like I just saw the back of his head and he was never really 'there'. When he wasn't playing games, he was upset, aggressive, annoyed, a shell of a person... feelings brought on by constant gaming. We got help, he sold all his games expect for a few that are not as addicting and he has set strict hours a few days a week in which he can play. Our lives are amazingly better! He is happier and we have a fun family now.
Gaming addiction is a real thing, and one symptom, is if he is out in the world showing frustration because he is ansty to get back at the computer. Sounds like he needs some help overcoming his addiction... especially if it is World of Warcraft he is playing.
He really needs to remember how much he loves his daughter, and how important it is for him to cultivate those family relationships and make memories.
Maybe these can help:
http://www.wikihow.com/Break-a-World-of-Warcraft-Addiction
http://www.tellinitlikeitis.net/2008/11/video-game-addict...
this is a Dr Phil episode on it, it's a real eye opener:
http://www.drphil.com/shows/show/1149/
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M.R. answers from Columbus on August 30, 2010
The two of you sound very different. Was he like this before you got married? If he was, and you ignored it or expected him to change, you know that won't work, but if he was the one who changed, maybe he should see a professional. Drastic changes in personality, being "antsy" in public, a preference for the solitary experience of computer games could all be signs of a depressed state of mind.
If you married a loner, you may just have to accept him, but if not, you should try to help him get healthy.
M.
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H.S. answers from Johnson City on August 30, 2010
This isn't normal behavior, although I suspect that many woman can relate to you. I too, am a stay at home mother to a 17 month old, but my husband is incredibly involved with my son and I. He very rarely spends time alone once he gets home from work unless it is after our son is in bed. He has gone to every doctor's appointment (including all the prenatal and pediatrician visits), he attends all extra curricular events with us, and we go shopping together as a family. He feels that any extra time he has should be spent with his son and wife. My husband also likes video games, and he plays them a few hours each night, but it never interferes with our lives. Quite honestly, what you are describing is a gaming addiction, and your husband may need help treating his problem. You may need to be more firm with him and tell him how this is affecting not only your life, but most importantly, your daughters. Everyone certainly needs "free time" as you describe, but it seems as if your husband is neglecting those who care the most about him in favor of gaming. You are not wrong in feeling the way you do. This is a problem that your husband is facing, and it needs to be addressed, before it gets worse. Best of luck to you both!
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K.B. answers from Milwaukee on August 30, 2010
I rarely have hubby along on grocery trips, half the time I do it while he is at work the other half I do it in the evening and I leave my daughter home with him and go alone (on rare occasion we all go).
We have nightly family dinner (hubyy, me and daughter), it is daily family time to sit, talk & eat. We go out to eat every other week as a family, not fast food but not fancy, those in between family places. My hubby enjoys that because their is beer and food involved (most guys like those things). We talk as a family and enjoy each others company.
My husband never goes to a kids party or play center, he hates being around a bunch of loud kids and in "crowded" areas. I love it so I do those things, I ask if he wants to come (usually get a no) and say ok cool and go myself with my daughter. Same thing for museums & fairs, mass amount of people is not his idea of fun even if the family is having fun. I say I am going here with daughter (maybe some other family members) do you want to come? He sometimes surprises me and says SURE but usually it is a no thank you... and he gets quiet time at home on the computer, video games, reading, napping or house repairs. But I understand why, not that he is trying to get out of family time just not big on all the crowds. This is a guy who takes a vactaion day to do Christmas shopping because he hates the crowds on the weekends or in the evenings.
When it comes to family events there are a few events/dinners he is given no choice; Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter are the musts for holiday family lunch/dinners (we do alternate between his family and mine so it is pretty fair that it is not always his or mine family that we are visiting). When it comes a Family Birthday celebration he comes, we have to stay an hour or two but if with my brothers they usually go downstairs and play video games anyway and we stay for HOURS. Anything else is ok to say no to, and I NEVER give him a hard time, I respect his choice and then go if I want to. Some people are more socialable then others, you can not force someone to be what you are or what you want them to be.
We do have a family outing at least once a month, we talk on what we are going to do that day and chose from this list; miniature golf, movie, museum, hiking, picnic in park, go to the beach, go to a fun indoor arcade... or whatever you, children, AND hubby might like are on the list. This is always a fun time for us and enjoy eachs others company and my hubby puts up with the crowds once a month is doable for him, more is pushing.
There are times to say we are doing this and times to just let him be himself by himself. In the end I know my hubby does not like crowded places so I do not expect him to come very often to a place that is crowded. We have talked it over and I understand why he does not want to and I he knows that I love those places and does not stop me from going. You get to have the same right, and if you do not get alone time tell him that you would like a day alone or even a few hours for a girls night.
One last thing at 17 months your husband may have a hard time know how to interact with your daughter. My husband was the same way and we did little as a family together besides eating out or visiting family. Now that my daughter is 4 years old, plays tag, kicks the ball around, and is easier to interact with he has a lot more family time playing in the backyard. So be patient and give it time, keep asking and do not push, he will come around when your child is older.
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C.W. answers from Indianapolis on August 30, 2010
Unfortunately, I think alot of men are like this. I am very fortunate that mine's not, but I know alot that are. Do I make him go to the store with me, no...do I make him go to kids b-day parties, no...he does however go to any family gatherings as they should, that's why it's called "family". And no, he shouldn't be that way about taking his child to do things that is enjoyable for him.
Not just your husband, but so many husbands that I read about on here are absolutely frustrating. Men need to realize that having children isn't about them anymore, yes it can be at times and that's fine, but now there are children and your life as you knew it as a bar hopping, video game playing, etc, etc are now over. Not that it needs to be totally over, but there is now a time and place and they need to figure it out.
If this was my husband I wouldn't put up with it. It took two to create this child now it's time for him to step up and be the father this child needs him to be.
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B.A. answers from Saginaw on August 30, 2010
This is not normal, although your definitely not alone.
My sisters husband is very similar to this. In my family, we actually are happy when he doesn't come because he is such a pain to her and everyone around him that its best for everyone when he isn't around except maybe my sister. Because, she is left to deal with her kids on her own, which we try to help with but there is only so much others can do.
Maybe explain that it would be nice for him to go to the park together without the negative attitude every once in awhile or come to your parents. Does he ever see his side of the family, or are you forced to do that alone? Anyway, baby steps, I wouldn't encourage him to do the grocery shopping or an errand as I wouldn't really consider those a good family trip.
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