M.H. asks from York, PA on May 06, 2008
How Do I Get My 10 Year Old to Be More Responsible?
Hello, I am looking for some advice on 10 year old responsibility. My son is a very good student, very bright and fortunately does not struggle academically. My problem is, he forgets his homework a lot, he is in fourth grade this year and it just started this year. It's almost always the same book, his Spelling workbook. If he comes home and knows before the school closes, I take him up to get it, the school is only a minute drive away. If not, our neighbor's daughter is in the same class and we copy the page from her book. I understand that occasional forgetting is ok, we've already copied things for the neighbor as well when she forgot. He frequently forgets to write in his agenda also and the teacher has on the board first thing in the morning what the homework assignments are so they have all day to write it down. I tell him to check against his agenda and the board before he leaves each day to make sure he has everything, but he's not getting it. It's very frustrating. His dad says to let him go and take the consequences from his teacher but I want his homework to get done. I've given him consequences at home though; no playing with friends, no video games, no TV, bed early, but nothing seems to help. Any suggestions or ideas are very much appreciated. Thank you in advance!
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THANK YOU to all who responded. I have so much advice to go with, I think I can incorporate a lot of it together. The majority said hubby is right, although I knew that I didn't want to admit it. Some of you said you understand how hard it is as a mom to let our children take the consequences at school, but I understand now how important this is in the long run...years down the road. We've had issues with his teacher this year (not just us) so I don't think getting the teacher involved is the right thing...very long story. I will definitely follow through the rest of the year (less than a month) and be on top of it next year; it will be his last year before going to Middle School so I'll work with the teacher next year if it happens again.
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M.G. answers from Philadelphia on May 07, 2008
Hello M.,
My name is M. and I am the mother of a 10 1/2 and 2 1/2 year old boys. My 10 year old always forgets things. I started taking things from him, like the priviledge to watch t.v. until the next day if he bought home his homework, also his WII which he would not be able to play. After a week of this he started to remember. He even got a reward for not forgetting any assignments for the month of April. Hope this helps.
M. G.
L.S. answers from Lancaster on May 07, 2008
To chime in here with the let him fail. My 2nd grade daughter has always been responsible for her homework until the weather changed this spring. Since it's been nice she seems to forget lots of things because she can't wait to get home and go play. Well, the first two times I did get the assisgnments for her but after that I let it go because I have other things to take care of besides getting her homework. She was very upset because she didn't want an incomplete because she ahs never gotten one of those (she knew the consequence). She had to go in with no homework and got a green N (that's an incomplete) and she hasn't forgotten since! She hates to disappoint her teacher so it was a lesson well learned.
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K.C. answers from State College on May 07, 2008
I agree with your husband about learning to fail. BUT, talk to the teacher and make sure the consequences are clear, there aren't any exceptions, etc. Then ask him how HE can remember better about the assignments. Make a checklist, w/ boxes for "agenda", "HW", etc. laminate it and pin it to the outside of his backpack w/ a whiteboard marker(OK flawed idea in the rain but the rest of the time...) He's got to check off the things as he's leaving school each day and you check with him when he gets in the door. If this is uncool, even more motivation for him to remember. 3 months makes a habit. I have to peak in my purse before leaving the house, my husband has to pat his back pocket for his wallet, you are teaching your son how to check before he leaves school w/out doing it for him. If he forgets he forgets but at least you've tried to give him tools to remember. Keep up the consequences at home too -it shows him how important it is and is the best way to make an impression.
H.A. answers from Williamsport on May 08, 2008
I started a clothespin discipline which seems to work pretty well. (You can put the clothespins on a display board or a piece of cardboard) The first offense, they get a clothespin. The second offense, they get a clothespin. Third offense, time out, fourth offense grounded. This also helps mom from yelling because discipline is all on the child's shoulders. When they reach the grounded stage, ask the child what they think their punishment should be.
L.S. answers from Lancaster on May 07, 2008
To chime in here with the let him fail. My 2nd grade daughter has always been responsible for her homework until the weather changed this spring. Since it's been nice she seems to forget lots of things because she can't wait to get home and go play. Well, the first two times I did get the assisgnments for her but after that I let it go because I have other things to take care of besides getting her homework. She was very upset because she didn't want an incomplete because she ahs never gotten one of those (she knew the consequence). She had to go in with no homework and got a green N (that's an incomplete) and she hasn't forgotten since! She hates to disappoint her teacher so it was a lesson well learned.
A.D. answers from Philadelphia on May 07, 2008
Been there done that! My son is now 14 and in 8th grade. He really struggled with writing down assignments. It came to a head in 6th grade. He had to get his teachers' signatures every day for almost 6 months. He now knows all of his assignments and suffers the consequences if he doesn't complete them.
Back to elementary school... there is a lot more coddling in elementary school. What percentage does homework count towards the grade? My son had straight A+'s in 5th grade. There was no challenge. Homework was completed in no time.
My suggestion is to have a heart to heart with him. Let him know that he's bright, but needs to be responsible for bringing his books home so he can complete his homework. Homework will only increase, especially at the middle school level. Go ahead and have him suffer the consequences of not completing it. If the "A" is really important to him, not getting the "A" will be a wake up call.
BTW, my 10 year old daughter in 4th grade doesn't complete her agenda either. She hated it when I tried to get her to fill it out earlier in the year so I gave up trying. She completes her homework for the most part. I work with her on her homework when needed.
Hope this helps!
A. D
M.G. answers from Philadelphia on May 07, 2008
HAHAAA...Are you talking about my son? I can relate ENTIRELY!! My son is 10...brings home an "i forgot" slip almost every single day. Fortunately making him stay in is working for the moment. It seems we have to switch up his consequences,depending on what he is most interested in at the time (video games,out playing with friends). So punishing him from everything at once or long term..basicaly doesn't work. In my opinion these kids have a lot on there plate at school these days and have a lot more responsability at a much younger age. I have a HIGHLY intelligent 14 yr. old and I can remember his struggles at that age too like being organized.Let's not forget they are boys...not that it's there excuse!Both my boys had the same teacher and let's just say she is not a happy camper and gives lot's of homework even gave a test 2 days before school let out.So I think some kids feel a little overwhelmed on a daily basis. Some think because there grades are fine...not doing all the homework will affect them. I do believe that if you make the teacher aware that this is a problem and you can use her help in this..(i.e. ask her to peek at his agenda and remind him to bring home his books...it's not that hard for her to do..and his grades are most important..being more responsible and organized will be more of a focus next year...in preparation of middle school. Start fresh then and if you notice it starting again early on...then again bring it to the teachers attention and let them do there part too. During the summer give him a couple small chore's if he doesn't already have..just as a way of excersing his responsibilities and keeping him on his toes! Honestly you sound like me and knowing my husband and I have done all we can..the only thing I wish we did earlier was getting the teacher more involved. It has helped us and the stress we've had all year. Your not alone!! I hope this helps! Good luck!
A.G. answers from Allentown on May 07, 2008
How about instead of consequences for forgetting the workbook, rewards for remembering to bring home the workbook? Like maybe on a weekly basis if he remembers everyday that week, Friday night or over the weekend do something special that he would look forward to, like having a friend over or a day trip. "My dad and I are going fishing this weekend. I am so excited but I have to bring home my workbook everyday to be able to go. My mom said I can't go if I am not responsible and bring home my work" Obviously the consequences did not make an impact on him if he still can leave school without saying to himself, "oh let me grab my book because I want to play video games tonight". Also, call the teacher and let her know and perhaps she can keep an eye on what he is doing when its time to leave school, or she can just give a friendly reminder to all the kids in the class if he is not the only one.
M.G. answers from Pittsburgh on May 07, 2008
I would tell the teacher so they know and can a buddy in school check his planner?
B.K. answers from Pittsburgh on May 07, 2008
Hi M., I wish I had the magic answer for you...all I can share however is that I went thorough this with my oldest! When she started school (in Ohio) she had homework every night except for Friday's. She would do her homework at the table as soon as she got home (from school or the babysitters) then she was free for the night. Good habit right? We moved here the middle of 2nd grade and it all went nuts. She didn't have homework everynight and it was hard to keep track of...for her and for me. It's been my experience that homework help lines are totally unreliable....no matter how well-intentioned they are. After the adjustment peroid she just got lazy and didn't want to do her home work. We tried everything. Her 4th grade teacher got so mad at her for falling behind in her homework for the second time she actually told my daughter not to come to school until she had it all done! This was after I had repeatedly requested she call me and tell me when my daughter had missed no more than 4 assignments! When the teacher said that to my daughter she was 15 homework assignments behind. Needless to say I was crazed. We spent the entire weekend getting her caught up and she didn't play softball that season. It was horriable! The best thing that ever happened for us was another move. We moved to a smaller school district and just happened to move into a house across the street from her new 5th grade teacher! The idea of Mom walking across the street to ask her teacher if she had any homework was just too awful! That year was her best year ever! She didn't skip or turn in one paper late that year and has only had the occaisional slip since then. She is now 16 and finishing up 10th grade on the honer roll.
Here are my suggestions: 1. Never threaten him with a punishment you won't follow through with completely and take something that really means something to him (my daughter lost an entire season of softball because she was unwilling to do homework & she still hasn't forgotten it!)
2. Become friends with your son's teacher and be willing to call them at random to find out his progress in this area. Let your son KNOW that you will be doing this and that he will be held accountable for his actions or inaction.
3. Don't harp about how he organizes his school work or fills out his daily planner, he needs to develop a system that works for and is comfortable to him. The most important part is getting the work done.
4. I recommend that you have him do his homework before he does anything else. I know some people think kids should have a break between school and homework, but for us it always seems to go faster and better if they just do it when they get home then they can enjoy the rest of their day.
5. I also recommend you have him do it at the kitchen or dining room table. I find that when you let them do their homework in their room they have too many distractions.
I'm sure none of this is new. All I can tell you is that it will get better if you hang in there and keep makeing his education your priorty. Just think, in less than a month this year will be just a memory and next year is a fresh start! Good luck & best wishes!
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