S.K. asks from Irving, TX on December 07, 2007
6 Year Old Miss Behaving in Class
hi to all moms
i have a 6 year old in kindergaten , through out this school year his behavior is getting worse everyday , cant stop playing or desrupting his teacher in class even when there is a warning for him to stop he just wouldn't listen and she has to keep on reminding him through out the day , i also have a probleme with him at home his always ready to go before you can ever finish telling him what you want him to do , so he will always come back and ask me what were you saying i am supose to do ??
i've tried everything you can ever think about talking to him in a nice way , time out , took out all his toys , stop him watching his favorite cartoon , spanking you name it nothing is working and when i sit him down and talked to him all he has to say to me is that he is trying very hard but cant get him self to behave , i feel that i have a very smart boy but his using his smartness on the wrong things , even my sister think i should go and get a professional help but i feel that is extreme or in some way i feel like that is a failure to me i dont know how to deal with my own kid , specialy that he has a very normal life never been through some emotional problemes that i can think of in anyway , what am i suppose to do is this normal for his age and if it's how long would it take for this to go away ?? because it's really getting to me that sometimes or i should say most of the times i cry my self to sleep over this i just cant imagine after all the love and care that i give this is how it will be paid off , can anyone help me please i am so desperate for your advices .
thank you in advance
So What Happened?™
hi to all mommys
thank you so much for beeing concerned about i truly do thank you , as for my son i did go to his school and did what all of you told me to , they said the state are changing the (( ADD ))forms so there waiting on the new ones to come in , that makes me the top one on the list since nobody ever asked about theme , at first they didn't even know what i was talking about and then i went and spoke to the counselor weird ha !! and finally she did so she got concerned too , specialy that my son as she stated was one of her favorite boys in that school she calls him the little loving gentelman so she was in shock when i told her what was going on in his class room , she promissed in the mean time that she will keep an eye on him and talk to him too since he thinks of her as the lady who keeps you out of trouble , anyway i hope this will help for now by the time we will get him all the help he needs .
thank you so much one more time to all of you .
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J.C. answers from Dallas on December 08, 2007
I would try holding his hand when giving him instruction. Maybe that will help him focus on what you are saying. Also, try having him repeat back to you what you said. I hope that helps.
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T.S. answers from Longview on December 09, 2007
A few things to think about.
Attention span--I have 2 boys that are borderline ADD (not Hyper as in ADHD). They are really sweet, but they have a hard time focusing on tasks sometimes. My oldest wore holes in all his pants while sitting at the desk in first grade. He would jiggle his leg and rub it against the desk. AT the time I first fussed at him about it, then realized it kept him on task, so I changed gears and told him jiggling legs are fine, but not at that certain spot where it will rub holes in his pants. :-/ LOL
Secondly I put him in soccer. He ran and ran and ran. Then in school he was able to concentrate better. ;-)
The next boy was somewhat diff. He fiddled--with erasers, pencil, pens, etc. So his teacher told him to keep his hands out of his desk and he could do one thing--jiggle a pencil or something. But no fiddling in the desk with everything.
Just try to get the teacher to work with you.
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L.G. answers from Houston on December 08, 2007
Hey S.!! I have a seven year old that is going thru/has gone thru something the same.Spanking doesn't work, time out doesn't work, to take something away or reward him doesn't work? or didn't work?!! I am a divorced mom with two boys. THeir father isn't much of a father. So, that could be part of the problem. But, I have been reading a book the FIVE LOVE LANGUAGES for KIDS. Maybe finding out if their LOVE TANK is empty may help??? If you are anything like me, I will TRY anything!!! because I love him so much!! Good luck!!!
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J.C. answers from Dallas on December 08, 2007
I would try holding his hand when giving him instruction. Maybe that will help him focus on what you are saying. Also, try having him repeat back to you what you said. I hope that helps.
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A.W. answers from Houston on December 08, 2007
If your son eats processed foods from cans, boxes or anything pre-packed I suggest changing his diet. Many children show signs of add/ adhd due to the artifical ingredients/ sweetners, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP (poison) and the all mighty toxic food coloring. I would suggest Dr. Massie ###-###-####)in Friendswood for food allergy testing and Herman at Tri-Health on Fuqua for supplements. Good luck.
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G.M. answers from San Antonio on December 07, 2007
I am not sure what Kristi is thinking, but you are right to be concerned. I agree with her that you should try new or more challenging activities, but he needs to learn self discipline and order. Taking him to a professional can help you in determining if there's a medical problem or environmental/social one. By seeking a professional opinion/diagnosis you will know for sure what the problem is. You don't want his behavior interfering with his learning or that of his classmates. If his teacher is having to stop teaching to correct his behavior then he and his classmates are losing out on instruction.
I was having a similiar problem, not with behavior but with failing grades in reading with my son who is also six and at a meeting with his Speech therapist we discovered that he is probably failing reading because of a neurological speech disorder called apraxia. My older son made all A in school and I thought I was failing my younger son some way. So we read and read and read at home and he showed little improvement. So then he was punished for not doing well in reading... now we know that he can't help it. I still work really hard with him at reading, and he has no idea that he has a "condition" so he still works really hard. We just don't focus on his bad grades.
Get a professional opinion. They do check list and so forth to see how many symptom he might have ... then they make a diagnosis. You have nothing to lose. Good luck!
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A.Z. answers from Houston on December 08, 2007
I think it might be a good idea for you to take your son to see a developmental pediatrician for assessment or perhaps for the meantime have your school diagnostian evaluate him.
Some of the things you mention remind me a child who MIGHT be on the spectrum (ASD-Autism Sepctrum Disorder) more likley maybe ADD or ADHD. The things you note about issues with focus and attention and nothing seeming to work are very common with these conditions. I think it might be good just to check it out because if that is the case there are many therapies out there (that don't include drugs which I know is the fear of many parents) that range from changing diet to providing more instruction visually versus auditorially.
I'm not an expert but any means by have a 4yr old son who has Aspergers Syndrome(high functioning autism--2 years above grade level academically but socially delayed) and a 8 yr old step son who had ADD/ADHD (who has an IQ over 130 but struggles in school). Both have been diagnosed within the last year so all I seem to do is read, attend conferences and try to learn as much as I can. Both these disorders are on the spectrum.
If your son was to be diagnosed, your school system will in all probability be REQUIRED to work with you to provide teaching aide/adjustments to help your son learn in the best way for him which usually is more visual for these kids, they are still trying to figure why. IF your child does come back with some Spectrum Disorder diagnois, one thing to know...you are NOT alone. Ten yeras ago, 1 in 10,000 children were diagnosed with Austism or an ASD and now that number is more around 1 in 150...alarming I know.
Either way, I hope the very best for you. You sound like a great Mom and if it's one thing I've learned through all this is to trust your Mom instinct. I just knew something was up with both these kids probably starting a couple of years ago and just couldn't put my finger on it since they are both so bright.
I wish the best to you and your family.
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S.S. answers from Dallas on December 08, 2007
I think you said it.. "he can't help himself."
Sounds like ADHD (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder).
Get him assessed by a psychologist, and do not despair. You have described my 7 year old until this year. He was out of control, couldn't stay focused and couldn't help himself. I love him w/all my heart, but he was so frustrating. My instincts were ADHD, & I had him checked out. The psychologist said that he had SEVERE ADHD. We used the summer to get the meds right, & he is on Aderall. WHAT A PROFOUND DIFFERENCE. He's still his lovable self, but he can sit still & focus. He went from almost having to repeat kindergarden to getting 90s in grade two. He had folder (discipline) signs everyday last year, and has not had one this year. If you live near Arlington, I can give you the name of a really good psychologist.
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K.W. answers from San Antonio on December 08, 2007
Hi! I just had to write to you because I can feel your sense of frustration and despair through your words! first of all STOP WORRYING SO MUCH THAT YOU CRY YOURSELF TO SLEEP!! This doesn't do ANYONE any good--least of all YOU!! I have 2 boys (9 and 6) and i am a stay at home mom so i know the challenges you are facing! everyone thinks it's so easy, right? :) You really have your hands full with the younger ones and there's not much you can do about that right now. The babies need you more than your 6 year old does to do things for them. do you think his acting this way is maybe his way of getting attention? sometimes it's hard for the oldest child to go from being the center of your world to having to share that with another sibling (and your son has TWO!). Also, and really think about this one... is your house pretty chaotic right now? how are the children's routines? can you sit down as a family for dinner and talk or are you constantly having to get up and do something for one child or another? i know that babies are very demanding (please! i KNOW!), so maybe your oldest son is feeling like his life is spinning out of control and he can't seem to get his brain to focus. are YOU feeling overwhelmed and not calm? pulled in every direction? do you see how any of this may be affecting your son? kids learn how to deal with life from us, so if you are feeling unorganized and the house is chaotic then he is going to have a hard time learning how to be organized and focused. does this make any sense? and another thing--DO NOT FEEL LIKE A FAILURE!!! are you kidding me? i personally am amazed that you can get up in the morning!! :)
so, just try this for a few weeks and see what developes. try and bring some order to your house. sit down and write up a schedule (something you can REALLY sitck to--nothing too strict and allow for some deviation because it WILL happen). also, there is no shame in talking to a professional. sometimes outside help is a good thing! he or she can really give good advice on dealing with your child--and it does NOT mean anything is wrong with your kid! i don't know of any child behaviorists, but i'm sure there are some here. ask your peditrician. i know that when my husband was in the military we took our oldest who was then 2 to see a child psycologist because his behavior seemed to change overnight and our once sweet baby was now somewhat of a royal pain! the guy looked at us like we were nuts! there we sat 2 eduated people (my husband is a MD and i have a degree in education)with this 2 year old who was running our lives! my point is is that we were overanalyzing the situation when the simplist answer was right under our noses! he was 2 for pete's sake! let him be 2, but teach him what is acceptable and what is not and never loose patience! good luck to you!let me know how things work out if you get a chance!
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M.K. answers from Dallas on December 08, 2007
I went through something similar with my child. I called it the "Denise the Menace syndrome", because he honestly could not tell us why he was doing the things he was doing. He disrupted class from boredom and a constant need to be on the go. He developed other symptoms that eventually lead us to the right help, but it was frustrating. We looked at everything we could think of: Sleep quality, allergies, reflux, and behavioral problems. We were eventually told that he needed a special school to cater to him, as he would be bored in the public school setting. Too expensive, so we have him in educational programs during the summer to entice him to behave during the school year. He is rewarded with special priviledges, small toys, etc. We found Leapster to be a big asset in our situation because it teaches him while he is in motion. I wish you luck. Never, ever make yourself feel that this is your fault in some way, or that you are not a good parent. This is not a defect, it's an asset. Original thinkers never fit a mold, they invent one.
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S.T. answers from Houston on December 09, 2007
Don't blame yourself! Getting help does not mean you are a bad mom.
My girls are on the autism spectrum and can be very disruptive (you should have seen us at church today.) But you do the best you can and if it's not good enough, you get help. I was homeschooled which helped a whole lot and I am homeschooling my children. But that's not always the answer for some people.
Also, look at your son's diet. Is he having refined sugar (or a lot of sugar) artificial flavors and colors, artificial sweetner, ect? Some children are sensitive to wheat or dairy which causes difficulty in concentration or behavioral problems. Medication is not always necessary, and certainly not preferable if a change in diet helps.
Well, I wish you all the best. You might ask if the school would have him evaluated for learning disabilities. At least it can give you a start. My children are so smart, but it doesn't mean they don't have disabilities.
S., mom to four
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