S.S. asks from Euless, TX on July 20, 2009
16Yr Old Rules
My 16yr old niece will be coming to live with us in Aug (before school starts). It's has been a while since I was younger and I was in a broken family and did what I want. I am looking for what rules other parents with teenagers have. I am not sure if this is the norm, my thoughts so far (the #1 rule is no grades no play in our house, was thinking curfew weekend 11/12 do ya'll have weekday curfews considereing they have howemework that needs to be done after school. she is planning on getting a part time job and we were going to put her through drivers ed and help get her a car. With the vehical are extra rules inforced. I just want some suggestions so when we talk this weekend we all can be on the same page of the rules of the house. I also do not what to be to over the top one way or the other. Thanks for all the help!!
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J.R. answers from Dallas on July 21, 2009
I would agree with the other moms on curfew, dating, grades and such, but I would also suggest asking her what she thinks house rules should be. You might be surprised that she knows what would be better for her rules and then compromise from there. Maybe ask, "What do you think would be a good time to be off the phone?" Then if she says 10, you can point out that the little ones go to bed at 8, so lets meet in the middle at 9. It will give her some control over herself and make her more likely to follow the rules she helped set. Don't forget to get her to help set the consequences too, and let her write them down as they are agreed upon. When a rule is broken you can point out that she helped decide the punishment, and you won't be the bad guy so much!
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T.H. answers from Dallas on July 21, 2009
What a great thing you are doing by taking in your niece! I have two teenaged daughters and one 12 year old daughter. First and foremost with us is grades--definitely, no pass/no play! My girls are all involved in school activities, so bad grades mean they don't get to participate in cheerleading, drama, choir, etc. It just helps reinforce our grade rule.
As for curfew...in our house it is earned. Most cities don't even allow minors out past midnight (sometimes 11). Also, there are curfews for new drivers as well. Responsiblity earns our 17 year old later curfews. Normally she is to be home by 11:30, but on occassion has been allowed out past that time. Communication is key. If she doesn't communicate with us via phone call or text when she will be later than planned, then there are consequences, like being grounded for the following week. We've only had to enforce grounding on two occassions though. We've been blessed with responsible girls.
Good luck to you!
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T.T. answers from Dallas on July 21, 2009
My experience with 16 yr old girls is that if you come on with DO THIS DO THAT DO THIS, she'll shut down and not want to speak to you.
I am all for rules...when the situation comes about, but not sitting down and saying...this is how it's going to be period and have a nice day.
I'm thinking that if she is to come live with you and it's already been arranged, you guys should have established "what is expected" of her BEFORE agreeing to the arrangement, not when she gets there.
No drugs and alcohol are a given. Making decent grades...also a given...curfew...depends on the event and who they're with, but a normal curfew for my daughter is 11...10 on week nights. But again...depends on what she's doing and where she's going and who she's with.
About the cell phone...if she abuses it, she loses it. About the computer...same thing. And we have a timer on the computer as well...so two hours a day during the weekday and 4 per day on the weekends...and that's it.
I am firm but I am fair...and I think that makes for a good parent/teen relationship.
Kudos to you for taking in your neice. Raising a teen isn't for the weak...that's for sure.
Smiles to you!! Good luck.
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L.D. answers from Dallas on July 22, 2009
Hi, S.-
I am a mom of 9 children, so I admire your sacrifice to take on this new responsibility. I have some hard and fast rules in our family. (I have a 2 teenage boys at home now, 2 boys in college, and 5 married, responsible adult children, who all have at least a Bachelor's degree from a university. (One of my daughters is a CPA and attorney.) I like these guidelines because they focus on what to do, not what not to do.
1. Be a good person. Be a good family member. (Details include picking friends who do what is right, obeying the law, being honest, speaking kindly, and doing your fair share of the work. It also includes going to Church, if your family already does, helping others, and having a good attitude about babysitting or chores. Being considerate of other people's time is a biggie. I don't drop everything to run to Barnes & Noble for a needed school book at 10:45 PM before they close. One of our family mottos is, "Be where you're supposed to be, and do what you're supposed to do".)
2. Work hard and efficiently in all you do. No slackers allowed. (If my kids are milling around, not doing anything, I ask them if there is anything they could do to contribute to the welfare of the family or improve the world around them. This also includes getting good grades, putting things away in the right place, doing their homework before playing, working on school projects far in advance-instead of staying up until 2 AM the night before they are due, etc. This includes chores, school work, planning ahead and staying organized.)
3. Communicate (Needs, wants, who they're with, where they are going, problems, details - like if they need a specific shirt washed & ironed for a band concert. This also means communicating with others - teachers, friend's parents, etc. This means writing down their appointments on the family calendar. This also means that if they tell you they are going somewhere, then decide to go somewhere else, they call you before going somewhere else. I would rather receive 8 30 second phone calls in one evening, than to find out later that they went somewhere possibly questionable that I didn't know about. This also allows you to get in touch with them in the case of an emergency.)
4. Be in charge of your own things. (This says it all- put your own things away, clean up after yourself in the kitchen, mop your own spills, iron your own clothes, etc.) Mom is not the maid.
5. Driving a car is a privilege, not an entitlement. (My kids have to ask before they leave, even if they're the only one who drives that car, and they consider it "theirs". No one gets mad and stomps out of the house and leaves in the car. Before leaving, they have to tell where, what, who and when. Certain responsibilities go with it: running errands for the family, filling it with gas, waiting while it is being serviced, etc.)
6. Telephones and computers are a privilege. (Giving up the family phone when another call comes in Call Waiting. Giving up playing games on the computer when someone else needs it for homework. Going to only approved sites on the internet. Answering cell phones when parents call, even if they are already talking on it. Taking good care of the equipment, etc.)
7. Being home when expected is vital. (Our school night curfew is 10 PM, weekend nights are 12 AM. If they are going to be late, I better receive a phone call. As a parent, I wait up to be sure they aren't hurt, stranded, etc, so being late is inconsiderate and worrisome.)
8. Home is where you learn LIFE SKILLS. Everyone learns how to share, do the laundry, cook, iron, clean a toilet, paint a room, plant flowers, etc. You want to give your children the skills that will see them through their adulthood.
9. Love is Spoken Here. (We say this sometimes 20 times in one day, but it reminds everyone to curb anger, forgive, cooperate, help, and above all, show and receive love. This also means that "we" are more important than "me".)
I liked having these guildelines, rather than hard rules. It allowed for busy days when everyone had to pitch in more than usual, or for slow days, when we had minimal chores and responsibilities. (Rather than take the trash out every day, and dishes once a week.) I wish you the best in this new experience. It will probably be very rewarding. Have any questions? call me: L. ###-###-####
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L.P. answers from Tyler on July 21, 2009
S., You've already received some amazing advice so I just wanted to tell you how much I admire what you are doing for your neice, I don't know the circumstances that have created this arrangement, but you are obviously a loving aunt that wants to create a safe and secure environment for your neice while allowing her the freedom to be a teenager and have fun. I pray that you will continue to embrace her individuality while helping her learn the boundaries that will create a strong, intelligent, creative and beautiful young lady. Bless you and your family for opening your home!
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L.W. answers from Dallas on July 21, 2009
Let me recommend some resources that can really help you!
"Teen-Proofing" By John Rosemond
"Parenting Teens with Love & Logic" Foster Cline,M.D.
www.empoweringparents.com free website with TONS of great articles and blogs regarding specific issues. It is partnered with The Total Transformation System which I also highly recommend.
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R.S. answers from Dallas on July 21, 2009
Check out www.familymanager.com. Kathy Peel has a "House Rules" contract that might be a good starting point. http://www.familymanager.com/images/PDFs/house%20rules%20... You may have to sign up to get access, but it's free and she doesn't send you anything unless you o.k. it.
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C.B. answers from Dallas on July 21, 2009
11/12 is reasonable on the weekend IF, you know where they are going and what they are going to be doing until 11/12 (movie, at someone's home, etc.). 16 year old kids don't need to be "roaming" the streets at 11/12 at night. 10 is reasonable during the week, unless they have a job, in which case, come straight home after work and be home as close to 10 as possible. If they can't get up in the morning and get to school on time, the curfew is too late.
Our rules were simple but not negotiable. As long as she followed the rules, she was free to make her own decisions and choices.
No drinking, no drugs, no exceptions. If you get caught up in something, call me and I'll come get you, no questions. (Only happened once, and she told me what the circumstances were several years later, but I had never asked.)
No riding in cars with a driver that has been drinking or doing drugs, no exceptions. See rule 1.
Sex has consequences. Consider them.
Tell me where you are and who you are with and when you will be home, all the time. If something changes, call and let me know your plans have changed. Which brings us to the next rule,
Cell phone is on at all times and you will answer it when I call you. If you need to turn it off, call me and tell me first. (Don't call them excessively when they are out.)
Those were the "biggies", we had some minor "house rules" such as:
Pick up after yourself, and occasionally be nice and pick up after someone else for no special reason.
Respect all the other people in the house. Don't say or do anything to them or around them that you would not do to a stranger - and try to treat them better than that if you can.
In exchange for following the rules, we gave her a car, gas, insurance and a cell phone. She always worked for her spending money.
Break the rules, lose the privledges.
She turned out OK. She is in college, on the Dean's list (the good one, not the one I was on) and is a warm, beautiful, wonderful young woman. Kids are great, I hope you enjoy her.
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