E.M. asks from Quincy, MA on March 18, 2008
Starting Cereal and Continuing to Breastfeed
Hello moms,
My pediatrician wants me to start feeding my 4.5 month old son cereal and because they think he has a milk protein allergy. They want me to start him on Beech Nut cereal. Anyway, I am not convinced he has a milk allergy because he is still fussy, although it has only been 1.5 weeks. Maybe some of you have read my other post.
I think he is too young to start solids/cereal. Does anyone else think so? I was going to wait until he was 6 months old or at least close to that. I am wondering how to go about feeding him cereal and solids and keep brestfeeding him. What would a typical schedule be? Do you breastfeed first and then give him cereal? Do the number of nursings per day decrease or stay the same? Right now he nurses or bottle feeds while I am at work 6x/day and every 2.5 - 3 hours. Will that time ever get further apart or will he always be nursing this frequently? Just wondering how to integrate solids and cereal with breastfeeding? Any advice/tips would be great! I seriously have no idea. I have read a lot and am still confused about introducing the fruits and veggies as well. Do you eat them separately from the cereal or add it to the cereal? start with 1 cereal serving a day and then end up with 3 cereal feedings/meals per day? i am sorry if this is confusing at all.
Thanks so much!
E.
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V.F. answers from Portland on March 19, 2008
I was in the same boat. At 3 months old, my baby (now 7 months old) had small streaks of blood in her poop and the doctor diagnosed it as milk protein intolerance. He recommended that I eliminate all milk and soy products from my diet (I'm nursing as well). This seemed to help.
I started my baby on rice cereal mixed with expressed milk when she was 5 months old. She got a rash on her stomach and I waited 2 weeks to try again, and it was fine. Then, after she was eating two small bowls of rice cereal a day, I added oatmeal, which also did not go well. She was up a lot more frequently at night. So, her pediatrician told me to hold off on oatmeal until she turns 1 year old.
Still giving her two small bowls of rice cereal a day, I started to give her a couple of spoonfuls of sweet potatoes after she had eaten some of her rice cereal. I got this advice from a book and it actually worked. She ate it without a problem.
The slow method has worked for us. It sounds a little strange to me that your pediatrician would recommend giving your baby solids early because of an allergy. Usually they say to wait until at least 6 months when a baby has already shown signs of an allergy to food. What symptoms did your baby show of an allergy? Or was it an intolerance(a GI specialist clarified the difference to me)?
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P.N. answers from Boston on March 19, 2008
If you think he's too young, go with that. The current recommendations advise waiting until at least 6 months. I didn't see your other post but I don't know what one thing has to do with another. If your baby has a milk protein allergy, that has nothing to do with introducing cereal. It does take a few weeks to get the dairy all out of your system though and if you eat anything prepared, it is very difficult to get all the dairy out.
I never introduced rice cereal. Have you tasted it? It's nasty. I waited until my daughter showed all the readiness signs and introduced self feeding with real food. The only puree she's ever had is applesauce. That's what worked for us; it's not for everyone but it is much easier too. But you should go with your instinct on this. If you are not ready for solids, wait. Breast milk is custom made perfect food for him.
When you do start solids, because it won't be providing much nutrition (cereal is just empty calories with some hard to digest iron thrown in), you should nurse or bottle feed first, then offer some. The only thing that's really important with introducing new foods, especially since allergy is a concern, is to introduce only 1 new food at a time with a few days in between so you can recognize allergies. The argument that you need to start with veggies because fruit is sweet and they then won't eat them, doesn't really work as breast milk is very sweet so he's already used to it. We started with avocado then banana. Yum!
D.B. answers from Boston on March 19, 2008
I don't think there is a magic schedule or mixture to baby food vs. nursing. YOu can mix the fruit with the cereal and a little formula or breast milk, whatever you are using. If you think your child has a milk allergy, you can use soy-based formula and decrease your own intake of dairy products. My son started cereal and fruit at 3 months because a breast infection stopped my milk. Other kids wait a long time. They all thrive. The older they get, the more milk they can take at one feeding, and the longer they will last between feedings. However, eventually they do need more food to hold those growing bodies for more than a few hours. If he is full from breast feeding, he may not want cereal - you can try to alternate, but give him the breast or a bottle after the cereal at first, because it takes them a while to figure out what to do with that cereal and how to get it back in the mouth and swallowed. At first, the texture, the taste and the spoon can be confusing! But they all figure it out! Just make the food fun - make faces and smile, rather than be concerned. Eventually you will want to introduce the tastes separately so he develops a diverse palate, but in the short run, mixing them is fine. Also, just introduce one or 2 new foods at a time, so that if there is something he is allergic to or truly hates,you will know which one it is. Start with cereal and a fruit or two. Wait a few weeks before introducing a vegetable. If he spits it out, don't automatically give up. Sometimes they just spit because they don't know what to do with it! Have a toy in your hand so he can be entertained while he works his mouth and tongue to get the food swallowed. Sing a song, make up something about fruit and veggies - anything! Good luck - they all figure it out!
E.P. answers from Providence on March 19, 2008
Hi,
I also have a 4.5 month old son! And, they think he may have a milk protein allergy as well. He's my fourth baby, but the first with a potential allergy. We're about to start cereal also. With my daughters, the first few weeks of cereal were more "trial and error". More spilled out than stayed down, so I didn't really consider it a substitute for breastfeeding. After a couple of weeks, when they got the hang of it, I would add a bit more, and then delay that nursing session for another hour or so. Gradually they took more and more cereal, and then fruits and veggies, so the nursing sessions got less frequent. By about 6 months, they were eating three "meals" each day, with 4 nursings between.
Good luck!
C.C. answers from Boston on March 19, 2008
Hi,
My daughter's ped. said that anytime after 4months is fine for starting "solids". He suggested we start with rice cereal as its unlikely for babies to have a bad reaction to it. Also, rice cereal does have lots of vitamins in it, and iron - so its not completely "empty calories" - and it's a great practice food. I've tasted it (I taste everything my little girl eats) and it just tastes very bland, not horrible at all. I have definitely heard of peds. recommending colicky babies, or fussy babies, to start cereal as early as 4 months - or even earlier. If a baby has a reflux problem often it is recommended to mix cereal with formula/breast milk as early as 2 months - but that is in rare cases. My little girl is 5 months and we just started her on cereal and then bananas. I exclusively breastfed her until 5 months. Now I still BF her like always (every 2-3 hours), and at lunchtime and dinner I nurse her a little (so shes not starving) then feed her some food, then nurse her again. I got this idea from the book "Super Baby Food" by Ruth Yaron. She writes all about how to tell a baby is ready for foods, and how & what to start them on. She's a very organic oriented person, and even thought I am not necessarily like that, I really enjoyed her book, and learned a lot.
Best of luck! Congrats on your little boy!
M.M. answers from Lewiston on March 19, 2008
Hi there! My daughter who is now a little over 2 was diagnosed by a GI spec. with milk protein intolerances. Cereal only made her worse. She did not actually start eating solids until around 9 months. We ended up having to use a prescription formula for the 1st 18 months. She now drinks rice milk and we have to watch everything she eats. Milk proteins are surprisingly in almost everything. She was also extremely fussy all of the time and I was also breastfeeding in the beginning. It is a hard thing to deal with. If your baby has not been referred to a GI spec. you might want to aks for it. They did blood work to find out exactly what her allergies and intolerances were to. Hope this bit of info helps and good luck!
H.S. answers from Boston on March 24, 2008
Hi E.; I am a mother of an 11 month old who has an allergy to either milk, soy, egg, peanut, or fish. I have cut all of these things out of my diet since my son was 3.5 mos. I too was worried about starting him on solids and I didn't do so until he was 7.5 mos. My pediatrician told me that my son did not need anything but breast milk until he was 12 mos and to not worry about feeding him solids at all. So I went with my gut and started after we came back from a long trip when he was 7.5 mos. I used Beechnut oatmeal cereal b/c it is easier to digest than the rice cereal. I just mixed it with pumped breast milk and gave it to him as a mid-day meal for three days in a row then bumped it up to breakfast and lunch for the remainder of that week. Eventually I got up to 3 meals a day at the end of 2 weeks. Anytime you start with a fruit or veggie, use the same one for 5 days to make sure that there is no allergic reaction. Start with the yellows and oranges, they are the safest. Then move onto the greans and reds. Any veggie or fruit that can be peeled is always the safer way to go as well. I would add the fruit into the cereal when you first intro it. As far as the nursing while starting solids, I will say that during the first week of food our schedule was a bit wacky so I just fed him on demand until we found a rhythm. Now he eats 3 meals a day with an a.m. snack and p.m. snack. He nurses when he wakes up then for his a.m. nap then at 11 then after lucn for p.m. nap then at 4 for snack and then right before dinner and then to fall asleep. So 6-7 times a day still for an 11 mos old is normal keeping in mind that breast milk is his only source of fluids. Definitely nurse a bit before a meal and then finish up the meal with a nursing, they need to wash that food down!!! You don't have to do so immediately before and after just maybe within 15-20 minutes. It will also help keep his system from constipating. Well I hope this help, I feel your pains lady!-H.
P.H. answers from Boston on March 19, 2008
I agree with you and why would they want him on cows milk if he is breast feeding? weird! My son had No real food until 8 months old, BF only (he was a preemie and I wanted him as strong as possible, we went for 14 months BF with food after 8 months)
If he is BF he should do only that for a 2 more months..it is the perfect food and needs nothing else yet.(I am not an over zealous BF mom either..but this is silly of them to start him so soon)
Go with your gut, cut out milk, do not be concerned about adding anything for 2 more months and unless he has a weight gaining problem..why would you need to add anything this early? BF helps with allergies too..
Some Doctors are still not fully BF advocates..
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