C.E. asks from Auburn Hills, MI on January 26, 2007
Self Soothing to Sleep
This site is such a great help, I have another question for the moms. Caroline is almost 11 wks old, and is a breast fed only baby. Early on we tried the Baby wise method with the schedule, wake and sleep routine, which didn't work. She absolutely refused. Now she is sleeping through the night once we get her down. This is where the problem lies. I feed her anywhere from 10-11, then her father has to bounce her on an exercise ball till she falls asleep. If we put her in her crib before she is completely out, she cries. Now my question is, how long do we let her cry. She's gone 3 hrs when we tried the babywise thing, and would have continued if it wouldn't have been time for her other feeding. We haven't tried it again since.
Thanks in advance for all your help.
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N.W. answers from Detroit on January 27, 2007
C.,
This is probably not what you want to hear....but my pediatrian told me around 8-12 weeks to put my son (now 3) to bed awake so he would learn to fall asleep. He was usually pretty good about going to sleep-- just didn't stay asleep. I could not stand (and still have this problem) to hear him cry. It broke my heart. I was up the second I heard this little voice. My doctor also told me that up until 4mos old I could not "spoil" him by doing this. After 4 mos-- suppossedly we need to let them fuss a bit more. My advice, do what works for you. If you can stand to hear her cry, ok. If not, pick her up, bounce her on a ball--- whatever it takes:)
C.V. answers from Grand Rapids on January 26, 2007
Hi C.,
In my opinion 11 weeks is to young to be in any schedule. Both of my sons were about 6 months before they were in a schedule. We didn't let them cry themselves to sleep until around then. I guess I was lucky in the fact that after I fed them and layed them down in their crib they just went to sleep. I really liked the book Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child. I still refer to it with both of my sons. Good luck and don't let her cry that long at this age.
Chris
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L.A. answers from Grand Rapids on January 27, 2007
Sounds like the exercise ball habit is going to be a little tough to break. Give it a few days of "breaking the habit". When we broke the binky habit it was like that. 3hrs of crying sounds tough for you. The baby books suggest your soothing voice, rubbing her. I would even pick her up. Maybe try a lullabye or a book. Then put her down awake with words of "night night" (or whatever) Once they learn to put themselves to sleep it is much better for them and YOU! Good Luck!
L.O. answers from Detroit on January 26, 2007
I have a 13 month old. She was exclusively breastfed for 10 months. I never let her cry to sleep. I did begin sleep training at about 4 weeks.. I started putting her in the crib/bassinet when she was tired but awake. I stayed with her patting backs, rubbing heads, replacing the pacifier- whatever it took to help her to sleep.
My daughter is a great sleeper now. she goes in her crib awake - for naps and bedtime she soothes herself to sleep- if she wakes in the middle of the night- she can put herself back to sleep.
Your child is too young to do this... You are right to start working on getting her to self soothe... but she is too young to accomplish the task. In the future she will be able to put herself to sleep- but not now. Does she have a pacifier. That might help if she has a paci- she might be able to suck the paci until she falls asleep. But you have to be nearby to put the paci back in her mouth cause she cant do it herself yet.
Give it time..
R.A. answers from Grand Rapids on January 26, 2007
Hi C..
I would not let her cry for long. The first 6 months you can not spoil a baby. My ped. told me that babies learn secutity during the first few months of life. This is the time when they know you will be there right when they need you. I would say about 6 months, try to slowly let he sooth herself. But really until then she will olny make herself mrore upset, and in turn will more than likely, take you longer to get her down.
L.M. answers from Detroit on January 30, 2007
You shouldn't let an 11 week old baby cry herself to sleep, no matter what the books say. That is far too young. Bounce her until she is almost asleep and put her down. Let her know you are there until she falls asleep. Eventually, crying it out could be an option, but if a baby that young is crying, she needs you, even if it's just for comfort. I think it's very rare for a breast-fed baby to put him/herself to sleep because they nurse when they are hungry and for comfort as well. Getting a baby to sleep, breast or bottle fed is a process and a book or method or system can't make it magically work faster. Good luck! I know my sis-in-law bounced her breast-fed baby on an exercise ball until she was 6 months old!!!!
L.O. answers from Detroit on February 02, 2007
Hi C.,
Have you tryed putting her in a swing. That worked well with our first child. The thing about baby's is at first they need help in some way to be soothed to sleep ( like being bounced on an exercise ball). They do eventually go to sleep on thier own as they get older and learn how to sooth themselves. It's a learning process for both child and parents I know what your going through believe me. My 2 month old insists on crying herself to sleep whether we have her in our arms or in her bed or swing. It's kind of cute she's crying one minute and out the next. It's almost like that is what she wants to do to go to sleep is cry! Take it from me it will get better!! L.
S.M. answers from Jackson on February 01, 2007
Hi C., I had a son who didn't sleep through the night until he was over 1 1/2, and that was after having a daughter who slept through the night from the night I had her. Anyway, One thing that worked wonders for him, was after I nursed him, I'd put him in the crib with the nightgown I was wearing, he had my scent with him, and he would sleep. After many, many nights of this, he ended up using my nightgown as his blanket. But It was the only thing that worked. I tried many other things, the whole 'letting him cry', never worked, just made him sick. It may have for some, but never did for him. He is now 22, and in the Army, but its still very fresh in my mind like it was yesterday. Its just something that worked for him, so its worth a try. You'll get more advise you can handle from people about everything, listen to it all, but don't use it all, is the best advice I'll give you. One thing I tried that I am still upset about is, my daughter was a thumb sucker, after trying alot of things, mittens on hands type stuff, I was told to put tobasco sauce on her thumb, which I did, she ended up with blisters on her thumb and in her mouth, it was awful. That was 25 years ago, and it still haunts me. Your daughter is still very young, don't rush it, she'll grow up faster than you want her to. But then you'll be a grandma, and thats even more fun:) Good luck, Sue
A.M. answers from Grand Rapids on January 27, 2007
i would suggest reading secrets of a baby whisperer and goodnight, sleep tight. both have excellent suggestions for how to help our child sleep that dont require the cry it out method.
J.C. answers from Detroit on January 26, 2007
Oh my gosh, how are you staying sane? Your little darling was crying for 3 hours??? I definately wouldn't listen to whatever advice you were trying. Breastfed babies, in my opinion, cannot adhere to much of a schedule. The lack of thick substance in their tummies allows them to wake up more frequently. When she was tiny, I let Annabelle fall asleep at the breast. Whatever you need todo to get her to sleep, bouncing, etc....just go ahead and give her what she needs for a while. Until 6 or 7 months old, the little baby won't be able to fall asleep without mommy or daddy's cuddles.
Keep breastfeeding. Yay for you and baby! good luck:)
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