Potty training...going Outside

Updated on June 27, 2008
K.C. asks from Hancock, NH
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Hi, I've gotten so many helpful tips here just be reading others' requests. But Today I find myself needing to be asking for a little help.

I have a just turned three year old son who basically potty trained himself in a matter of days about three of months ago. And he is still doing very well with it. However every once in a while we'll "catch" him going potty outside. I don't know where he got the notion to do this. ( I did ask hubby if he had "gone outside" with our little guy around... he said no) We do have a small dog, and our son is always intrigued when the dog "goes" outside. Up until today he has only peed outside, and on the floors in the house. Giving the excuse that he can't use the toilet. ( He always says he can't when he doesn't want to do something.) Well, today, he pooped outside on the deck.

Which brings me here to ask for any ideas or tips to help me get him to stop going places other than the toilet.

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E.M.

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HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
OMG!!!! I remember this phase, and it is just a phase (until they get to college and discover keg parties....)
BOTH of my sons did this, the Japanese word for it is SHI-SHI.
My boys loved their Pokemon and Ninja Turtle underwear. The underwear got taken away and we put diapers back on them when they refused to use the toilet. Only happened a few times, and we did recognise the difference between "accidents" and willful defiance.
Thanks for the giggle today, this too shall pass.

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F.G.

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If he knows that he is doing wrong by going places other than the potty, you need to discipline him. My oldest knew he should use the toilet and just didn't want to leave what he was doing. He would do the whole potty dance and we would tell him to go use the potty/toilet and he would say no and pee or poop where he was. We started discipling him and would warn him that he would be disciplined when we saw him in the process of needing to relieve himself should he not go where appropriate. If it was an accident, like he was on his way and didn't make it, we didn't do anything....it was an accident. But willfully doing it is testing you to see what you will do when he does it and by not discipling him in some fashion will just give him the go ahead to do it more.

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L.S.

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Dear K.,

Oh my Gosh, I just can't stop laughing at this ! I'm sorry...
Honestly, don't worry- this is probably just a phase. I know and cared for a set of twins (one boy and one girl) in California who went through this very same phase, when they were about the same age as your son. It didn't last very long. They had a dog too, and the kids were intrigued by the notion that their dog "went" outside.But who knows why they were really doing it ? Kids don't have the same taboos and feelings of disgust about their bodily functions as we often do as adults... We didn't make a big deal of it - just moved the potty chair outside, and would tell them calmly and without much emotion, "I would like you to use the potty when you have to pee or poo." We took responsibility for cleaning up the poo outside because it really is germy and three year olds can't be trusted (even with adult help and supervision) to clean up poo in a through and sanitary way. I really like and agree with Diane B.'s advice below. Good luck, and really try not to worry too much about this one. L. S.

D.B.

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My son did this a lot - so often, in fact, that we called our back deck by the nautical term "poop deck" ;-) It's important to wait and see if this is a pattern, or a unique occurrence in your son.

We found that it had a lot to do with not wanting to stop what he was doing - he would squat down to play with his trucks, and nature took its course. Of course, peeing outside has its own fascination - playing target practice with a tree, etc. I think some of it is a very normal phase and it's important not to overreact to all of it. Guys "go" in the woods all the time on camping trips, and of course he sees the fascination of the dog doing it. I think it is important to distinguish between peeing in the sandbox and peeing at the edge of the property. (By the way, be sure you cover your sandbox every night to discourage animals from using it as a litter box!) Not that you want him peeing in the sandbox, but (according to Dr. Oz on the Oprah show)urine is actually sterile - medics on war zones are told to pee on soldiers' wounds if no other fluid is available to wash them out. Poop, however, is full of bacteria.

Putting the little potty outside might work - and making him help to clean up his accidents might make him realize that it's more work to do it his way than to do it the other way. I would try to do this without too much aggravation or anger - just matter-of-factly help him dispose of the poop in the indoor potty (where he's winding up no matter where he poops, see?), wiping himself (get those personal cleansing wipes, for kids or adults - much easier and more effective than toilet paper - I find the Cottonelle ones with the dispenser are easiest for little hands). Then he has to wash up WELL because of bacteria. He also has to clean the deck - set aside a special brush and detergent for this.

He will learn in preschool that kids use the potty. He will not go to kindergarten pooping in the playground. In the meantime, you can also set aside some treats or a sticker system for each time he uses the potty, and make it clear that you don't have as much time for fun things when so much time has to be spent cleaning the deck. Bottom line (no pun intended), you can't force this, but you CAN influence him. He can also be given a big-boy treat for each week of successful potty use, but you have to be sure he can handle delayed gratification.

The "you can, you just won't" thing is a whole 'nother topic for another day! Been there!

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B.G.

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I havent started the potty training process yet, so I really dont have any good advice - but what about putting the potty outside? If he likes to go outside so much, associate the two things together and then once it is successful - move the potty back inside???

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M.K.

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Thanks for the warning! I just caught my son peeing in his sandbox today. I found out that my husband has given him permission to pee outside towards the edge of our yard but I don't want him peeing (or pooping) all over the place whenever he feels like it! My guess is your son doesn't want to take the time to stop playing to go inside the house. Please pass on any tips you might come up with. Good luck!

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