Mirena, Irregular Mc's & a Possible M/C?

Updated on September 28, 2017
T.T. asks from Pittsburgh, PA
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Hello everyone,
I apologize for the graphicness and for potentially upsetting anyone, but I just need to hear something, anything, from someone who has been through similar/knows more about what I just went through. I have had a Mirena IUD since March 15, 2015, but I think I *might* have just gone through a miscarriage.

So, like I said, I had my Mirena placed March 15, 2015. I was never trying to avoid pregnancy (I was single and a virgin at the time); I had it placed because I was having extremely painful periods that were heavy enough to lead me to becoming anemic. Since the placement, my periods have stopped – I think. Every 4 months or so, I get slight cramping and 2 days of barely-noticeable spotting. Before my Mirena placement, when my periods were regular, I would get the slight cramping/spotting when I ovulated. So that’s why I say I *think* my periods stopped because I don’t know if these occurrences of spotting are a period or ovulation. I would think, however, I am probably ovulating at least occasionally because I have EW-like discharge every now and again. Sometimes it happens around the cramp/spot occurrences, and sometimes it doesn’t.

I have been dealing with a large bowel problem for well over a year now. I have pain almost every day in my abdomen, which extends into my pelvic cavity. So sometimes distinguishing uterine cramps/general gynecological pain is difficult. It’s also why when I do have pelvic pain, no matter its severity, I usually don’t think twice about it.

I have had intercourse about 1-2 times per month since the beginning of this year (monogamous). I honestly cannot remember how many times it would’ve been unprotected, but I can say that when condoms were used they’ve always been polyisoprene because I’m allergic to latex, for what that’s worth. The last time I saw my former partner was on June 17, 2017. That would also have been the last time I had intercourse. We had protected intercourse – however, I feel it’s worth noting what lubrication that was involved was scant. So I wouldn’t be surprised if the condom tore because it’s happened in the past when insufficient lubrication was involved.

That evening, I felt some slight cramping and had the barely-noticeable spotting. Same thing the next day, June 18. As I’ve explained, don’t know if it was a period or ovulation.

Roughly 5 weeks later, I began to feel a little unwell. I started having frequent bouts of nausea (on one occasion did it actually result in me dry-heaving and heavily salivating, but no vomiting, weird?), and my breasts had that feeling they get during PMS, of being “heavy”/tender and my nipples being sensitive. My breasts felt that way every single day.

Fast forward to August 15. I’d been having cramping that was more painful than usual all day and started bleeding that afternoon. The bleeding was not heavy. However, since having my Mirena placed, it was still unusually heavy -for me-. I have never had such a heavy or painful period since my Mirena placement; my nausea/breast discomfort persisted after the bleeding, which lasted for 6 days, subsided. I continued to have on-and-off cramping that was not as painful.

On September 14, I had some mild cramping and spotting so light I probably wouldn’t have even noticed it had I not been “looking for” it since the most recent cramping spell I’d had was persistent. The cramping, one again, continued intermittently and was mild.

I woke up September 24 with cramping that was more painful than usual – like what I had in August – and a very painful lower back. I went about my morning thinking maybe it was a period that had been trying to get started since September 14. About 5 hours later, I went to urinate and felt something trying to “slip out.” I bore down, and along with a copious amount of thick mucus, I passed what I can only describe as an oval-shaped mass of clear mucus that appeared to contain a smaller, darker mass. I tried to catch it to examine it, getting fresh blood from it on my hand, but it fell out from under me. When I examined it in the toilet, I saw that the darker mass within the large clear mass was a very dark red-to-brown in color and was roughly the size of a grape. I swear that I saw on this mass the tiny, perfect curve of the back of a head, which continued down into the natural curve characteristic of a spine. I know blood clots can have an uncanny resemblance to a human figure, but I have had blood clots before – always prior to my Mirena. And they never, ever looked like this, nor did they pass enclosed in a larger mass of mucus/fluid. Also, lo and behold, my cramping and backache ceased immediately upon the passing of this mass. My nausea and breast discomfort subsided, too. I did not retrieve the matter I passed and flushed the toilet, telling myself it was just my out-of-whack menstrual cycle. I was still pretty shaken, though.

On September 25, I called my GYN, with whom I have an appointment October 2 for a regular STD screening. I told the medical assistant all the events thus far and described the matter I passed as best I could. She called back about an hour later after speaking with the GYN and said that firstly, if I have any further symptoms, especially bleeding, to come in before October 2. As far as the possibility of a miscarriage, she was doubtful based upon the fact I have an IUD but couldn’t say for sure one way or the other. She expressed a concern something is wrong with my Mirena and said we’ll be checking the strings at my appointment. Later that day, I had a lot of thick discharge that appeared to be tinged with blood.

As of today, September 26, I had thick discharge similar to EWCM that didn’t seem to have any traces of blood. I also have been having the occasional MILD cramp since the passing. I had some stabby pain in my pelvis today, but I couldn’t tell if they were gynecological or just my colon. They were, however, severe and persistent enough that I started questioning maybe I should go to my GYN before my appointment next week.

So to conclude, I have no idea why in August my mc (if that’s what this is) decided to go haywire. I also have no idea why I was dealing with nausea and breast discomfort about a month after the last time I had intercourse that persisted even after the bleeding spell. I keep thinking that the August bleeding spell was a missed miscarriage and that the expulsion didn’t happen until the other day – is it possible for bleeding to accompany fetal death even though you’re unaware you’re pregnant? And to never get an infection during that long a period of time between the bleeding spell and actual expulsion of the nonviable fetus? And is it even possible for a miscarriage, in the unlikely event that’s what I just experienced, to happen with such unremarkable amounts of pain and bleeding?

I know that what happened on the 24th was probably just a blood clot. But given the symptoms, the intermittent cramping and spotting, and the nature of the mass I passed and the passing itself – I know what I saw. Even though I know it was most likely a blood clot, I just can’t get the image, the experience, or the possibility of pregnancy, no matter how slim, out of my head. I had this feeling since I initially started feeling sick that something was up, but I didn’t know what. I never bothered taking a pregnancy test because I just didn’t put the pieces together and realize my symptoms are often associated with early pregnancy. But after the passing, that feeling of something being out of place went away and was replaced with an inexplicable feeling of loss, one I’ve never felt before. Maybe it was because I was so convinced I saw a baby. Either way, I can’t stop thinking about this and have no idea how I’ll survive until my appointment next week.

I am 23, smoke 2-3 cigarettes a day, and have tried loads of medications unsuccessfully throughout the past several months for my colon. I also take 3 prescription medications for panic attacks and bipolar disorder. Thus, I was never TTC. I don’t want to consider motherhood until after my colon issue has been resolved and I am ready to stop smoking (and have my psychological health managed well enough to re-evaluate my medication situation given the not-so-great correlation between psychotropic medication and pregnancy). Still, I have been denying/suppressing very strong feelings of loss (and guilt).

Anyway, I apologize for my graphicness and rambling on. I really appreciate anyone reading this and offering feedback. Lots of love!

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So What Happened?

Hello again Mamas. :)

So I saw my GYN, and after I told her everything that’s happened, she said she was very doubtful that I had a miscarriage and that it probably was a blood clot and my periods being somewhat irregular. Upon manual examination, she said my uterus and ovaries felt normal and that upon visual examination, my cervix has a lot of mucus, which further explains the discharge/spotting I’ve been having. (My guess is that it’s probably “ovulatory” mucus since like I said it looks a lot like EWCM, and if I did have a period September 14 this would be about the right time for it to show up.) My pregnancy test (urine) came back negative, so that ruled out a miscarriage since if it were a miscarriage it’d still be coming back positive.

My GYN ordered a blood test and pelvic ultrasound (the blood test was more for the STD screening I went for in the first place), and the sonogram tech said that my uterus showed no evidence of pregnancy. I will be going back in 2 weeks for my regular Pap test and to go over all the test results with my GYN.

I want to thank each and every one of you for your advice and support. I do see a therapist, and I made an appointment with her for this coming Thursday. Now that I know for sure, though, that I did not lose a baby, my anxiety is way better, as you can imagine.

Oh, and I didn’t have to have my Mirena removed – yay!

So thank you again for all your help. :)

PS: my thoughts are with all the Mamas who have been affected by the Las Vegas shooting. Love and support to you all *hugs!*

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D.D.

answers from Boston on

If your physician thought it was something serious they would have gotten you in asap. I'd say its most likely a combination of your colon issues along with a hormone imbalance. With the combination of medications you are currently taking most likely this is just triggering your anxiety and maybe you need to make an appointment to talk with your therapist to work this through. I don't think you were pregnant but I do think you are reaching for signs that show you are a terrible person so of course you had a miscarriage because you are unworthy.

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B.C.

answers from Norfolk on

I'm glad you'll be seeing your doctor soon.
It could be any number of things.
Pregnancy/miscarriage - possible but not probable.
Hormone imbalance - very possible
Tied to colon issues - possible
Medication interaction and or side effects - possible
Some people have issues due to smoking while others never do
Something you never even thought of before (cancer or other issues) - possible
Really it's best to work with your doctor and wait till all the test results are in before you jump to any conclusions.
Hopefully what ever it is is something trivial and easily fixed.
Good luck!

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M.D.

answers from Pittsburgh on

I'm glad that you are seeing your Ob-Gyn. I agree with the MA that it's highly unlikely that you had a miscarriage. You have a complicated medical history and it's more likely that a combination of those other things lead to your issues.

Also, for what it's worth, I've had mirena for 7 years now, and my periods are totally inconsistent. Some months I skip, some months I don't skip. Sometimes they are so light I'm not sure if it's actually a period or not, and some months it's heavier (although never as heavy as it was before I got mirena). I often get other PMS symptoms (breast tenderness, mood swings, mild cramps) around the time I should have my period - regardless of whether or not I have an actual period. I asked my Gyn about this, and she said that my body cycles normally each month, but the mirena prevents ovulation and slows the building of the uterine lining. Thus, it is normal to get PMS symptoms every month even if I don't have menstrual bleeding every month. So the inconsistency in terms of your period, as well as the presence of PMS symptoms each month - even if you don't have menstrual bleeding - is typical, in my experience.

You should still definitely follow up with your Ob-Gyn to make sure it's nothing more, and I wish you good luck in sorting out your other medial issues.

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M.G.

answers from Portland on

Cramping/pain due to colon/bowel stuff can be extremely painful causing nausea. Pain from Mirena or uterus, etc. feels entirely different and is far, far less common. If you ever get spasms in your bowel/intestines/colon, they can be excruciating. Sometimes for people with IBS for example, they get spasms which can go on for days. They can be worsened with periods or PMS, or ovulation.

Personally - having a Mirena myself - I would chalk this up to bowel issues. I know for me, when I have my cycle - it affects everything - and can worsen whatever else is going on.

It would be very, very unlikely to get pregnant on the Mirena, which is why I'm guessing they didn't insist on seeing you right then and there.

Still - it's good they will check to see if it's still inserted correctly when you go in. You can ask them all this (write it down) in detail when you see them.

As a Mirena user, my cycle differs constantly. I have had no traces or signs of cycle for months, then suddenly - heavy signs. It's one of the thing with Mirena. It can be disturbing until you realize that's typical. My doctor explained that to me.

Good luck - I hope you get it sorted out. Stress contributes to bowel issues as I'm sure you know, so try not to worry. Smoking is something you should definitely give up if you have bowel problems. Best to you :)

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D.B.

answers from Boston on

Welcome to Mamapedia. Please don't apologize for the graphic details. They are important to your question. You gave a warning at the beginning, so anyone who doesn't want to read that stuff had the opportunity to move on to the next post.

I'm so sorry you have gone through all of this. I am glad you called your GYN and discussed this. I think there's not much that can be done until you are seen. Finding out if the Mirena is in place is the first step. I've seen women get pregnant with an IUD in place but it's very, very rare. I used to work in a reproductive health facility and I think, of the thousands and thousands of pregnancies I saw in 4 years, maybe 2 had IUDs that were in the right place. There were some additional ones where the IUD had slipped or shifted.

If you did have a miscarriage, though, the doctor will want to make sure your uterus is completely empty of the products of conception. That will mean removing the Mirena first. But if you have no symptoms of that, the doctor may have other explanations for what you experienced. If your appointment were much further away, I'd say to push for an earlier one or to be seen in an ambulatory care center. But if you are managing without major warning signs/symptoms and your appointment is October 2, I think you can afford to wait.

Your situation is complicated by your other medical problems so there could be any number of causes going on. It's best to be seen by the doctor who knows you best. Do print out what you've written here and take it with you - it's very specific about dates and details, and that will help you remember to share everything when you're in the exam room.

Good luck!

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T.H.

answers from Kansas City on

You definitely have a complicated medical history which can most definitely contribute to all of these symptoms. I think it's unlikely that you were pregnant, but if I had what you described I would probably be obsessing over it too. My only real advice here is to breathe slowly and try not to obsess over it until your appointment. I think that after your appointment your doctor will be able to give you more reasonable and accurate information. If your Mirena string is still in place, it's unlikely you had a miscarriage. IF your mirena has somehow moved or gotten stuck then it's possible you did get pregnant. Your doctor will be able to see right away if your Mirena is not where it is supposed to be. I think after your appointment you need to reevaluate your feelings and go from there. It would not be a terrible idea to see a counselor (or speak with one you already have) about these feelings. You have nothing to feel guilty over, but I do understand that you might have complicated feelings and questions, that is totally normal.

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