J.D. asks from Eureka, CA on August 26, 2008
Lost in Transition to Crib
I know this must be a common theme for moms that have their baby in bed with them, then try moving them to their own crib... my daughter is almost 7 months old and has learned to fall asleep nursing in my bed. The last two days I have been struggling with figuring out the timing, techniques, and willpower to help get her into a crib, at least for naps. I am trying to go by the book Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child for some tips but still having trouble.
The first day I let her cry it out for 2 naps, and she did fall asleep in about 15 minutes. I was pleased. But then she woke up very prematurely (not enough quality sleep), sat up and cried some more, not going back to sleep. So according to the book, I got her up until her next nap. It happened again. Last night I was going to let her cry it out and my husband got up and unbeknown to me, got her out of the crib...(and he says he wants her in her crib!) Today I laid her down after reading, singing, holding, and seeing her signs of tiredness and she cried terribly for over a half hour... I tried to soothe her without picking her up and ended up giving in when she looked so worked up, wouldn't lay down, sounded hoarse, etc... I tried giving her a pacifier, she wants nothing to do with it, and she's not sucking on her fingers to self-soothe. I am concerned that if I don't help her to learn to self-soothe by leaving her to figure it out that she will miss out on that important developmental task. But I'm unsure of how to do this the best and least stressful way. I feel so lost!
I know many will say that I should have done this a long time ago, but I'm really hoping advice for what to do NOW. Thank you!
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J.S. answers from Sacramento on August 27, 2008
J.,
It is not good to let a baby cry it out for so many reasons. As you saw, after the first time she woke up early and was upset. Is that normal behavior for her to wake from a nap that way? I doubt it. She went to sleep stressed and woke up stressed. Not good for a 7 month old.
The Cry It Out (CIO) method has many negative side effects both physical an emotional. Physically, the child gets stressed with a rise in blood pressure and a rise in the pressure in the head. The trauma to the larynx (vocal chords) is not healthy either - they aren't supposed to get hoarse. Emotionally, CIO is damaging as well - and sometimes the damage is hard to overcome. When you let a baby CIO you are teaching them one thing and one thing only: That you are NOT there when they NEED you. She is crying because she NEEDS you to be there with her; she is scared because she is not used to being by herself - she isn't supposed to be by herself. She needs the closeness she has had since she was born. She isn't yet old enough to have any wants...
Parents who do the CIO method usually do get babies to sleep by themselves - but not because the baby has learned how to self-soothe in a healthy manner - but because baby has given up - the realize that at some point during their day mom and dad will not meet their needs - so they give up. Is this healthy? No. Then many end up with a child who is fearful, clingy, insecure. This is NOT good.
Yes, there are those children who sleep alone very well and have no issues - but this is where you need to really look at the child's behavior. Crying to over 30 minutes is a clear sign that she is in deep distress and is in desperate need of YOU. Please keep that in mind.
Many people believe that there is some strong need to get the child into their own bed and to stop coddling them when they are little or else they will never be independent. Not true! I personally know of too many kids were co-slept until they were ready to transition into their own beds and did beautifully - they are healthy emotionally and physically, self-soothe just fine and are independent and self assured.
Self-soothing is not something you can teach by force - it is something that is learned when the child is ready - some get it earlier - some later. It's all good. I have 3 kids and they all learned to self soothe at various ages - it's about letting the child develop when s/he is ready - NOT when a book tells you.
Lastly, listen to your momma heart: If your momma heart is crying while she is - that is NOT right! Go get her!! You won't regret it - I promise. There few things more satisfying than being able to meet your baby's needs in such a special way as you have been. I encourage you to continue to enjoy the closeness you have shared with her and to enjoy the gift you have given her for her first 7 months. If you do, that gift will have long lasting and healthy effects for her and for you. As a parent who has done that, I can tell you it is a beautiful thing to have taken the time to enjoy my child's infancy, snuggling, nursing, co-sleeping and being able to let him transition to sleeping on his own when he was ready - it was seamless, there was no work involved, no crying, no struggles - it was healthy, and enjoyable all the way around.
I wish you much luck in your journey.
Warmly,
J.
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A.B. answers from Sacramento on August 27, 2008
Well, I won't say you should have done this a long time ago --I'd suggest rethinking it and letting her back in your bed!! She obviously needs and wants you. You'll get better sleep and so will she. lThis won't last forever. Mine are now 13 and 10, and they slept in our bed until THEY decided they didn't want to anymore. Very secure kids, no trouble with sleepovers away, and very affectionate. I wouldn't trade those years for anything!!! My best, sweetest memories are snuggling up with one on either side of me and drifting off to sleep...(perhaps I should also disclose I nursed the 1st until age 4, the second until age 5, with some tandem overlap when #2 was born -- of course nursing was very sporadic and seldom at the older ages).
A. B.
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J.R. answers from Sacramento on August 27, 2008
Hi J.,
Clever subject line!
I have found the book "The Sleepeasy Solution" by Waldburger/Spivack very helpful. Although I never trusted myself to have my son in bed with us, I was intent upon a solution that would result in a minimal amount of crying when weaning my son from nursing to sleep and helping him learn to self-soothe. This solution worked great for us, and though sometimes we still struggle withg night wakings (especially with visitors and travel) we always go right back to it and it works. (they talk about family bed--> crib transition as well)
One additional thing that I found was, because I was not in a hurry, I could help him move through the stages gently and can always backslide if things get tough--knowing that he will be fine, he will learne what he needs to in due time. So, I'd say start with one thing or another (if you're not already doing so).. i.e., wean her from falling asleep nursing or move her to the crib, but not both at the same time.
Best of luck!
J.
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J.K. answers from Redding on August 28, 2008
we never let our son cry it out and he has learned to put himself back to sleep at an older age (he is 2 1/2 and just stopped wandering into our room in the middle of the night). so i am not really in the same realm as you with sleep training. but i will tell you this -- i have seen that respecting a child's need for quality sleep is more important than training them not to need your help. when my son and i have struggled with these issues, it is exhausting for both and saddening to be struggling in such a way with your baby. 7 months is young, you may just want to try subtle techniques without too much expectation at this point. its not worth getting frazzled. your girl will figure it all out. for me, it really helped to be changing things when my son could understand my words, so think about how much she is really understanding about the situation. i am expecting my second and know that i will try to get this one to be more sleep independent, but i do not think it is normal for all kids to go to sleep on their own. rather, i would like my next child to be able to go to sleep with several different sleep associations or "triggers" and would like it to be able to be soothed back to sleep without being picked up (usings songs, pats on the back, etc). just a slightly different perspective for you because you seem to be putting a lot of pressure on yourself to get this moving along and things will change soon on their own anyways! ALSO, the single most important thing for me has been a solid sleepy-time routine. with that in place all else has been just little baby steps toward the goal and we have had very little tears about sleep and lots of quality rest. good luck and dont stress. shes just a little one yet!
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N.C. answers from Sacramento on August 27, 2008
please don't let your baby cry it out. If she doesn't know how to self soothe it is just sad. She doesn't know what is going on, only that you are not there. You should get baby 411, it rates each popular method out there, and crying it out was at the bottom of the list. That method is found to be very hard for both parent and child. People will tell you how great it is, but really how great can it be if it is traumatizing you and your child. If you would like to know how my husband and I transitioned our kids just send me a message.
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E.W. answers from San Francisco on August 26, 2008
J.
Hang in there - it will get better. I, too, tried to follow the Weisbluth approach with my first child (I just had my second) and found the book helpful overall...but it also stressed me out. In one chapter you're told to do whatever you can to get your baby to sleep and in another your told to put your baby down when drowsy. Here's what I took away from it....
1) Be consistent (so make sure your hubby is on the same page)
2) Do what works for you - if you don't like crying it out, don't do it (you need to be comfortable with the approach in order to be consistent).
Although I was never in your situation, here's my advice on how to handle it:
Based on my experience with my first, I would try to make the move in a more gradual fashion. If your daughter falls asleep with you nursing her in bed for naps, then change one thing at a time. For example, let her fall asleep with you nursing her, but hold her in a chair rather than laying in your bed. Ideally, you'd nurse her in a chair in her room. When she's fast asleep, put her in the crib. You don't want her to view the crib as a negative experience, so when she wakes up, go to her right away and have a lot of positive energy about her nap, tell her that you're proud of her etc. You might also just try putting her in the crib when you're putting laundry away in her room etc. and talking to her as you do it. It might sound dumb, but that way the crib isn't viewed as a place she's banished to when she falls asleep. Once she is used to falling asleep while nursing in a new location, then you can work on her learning to fall asleep on her own. For example, nurse her in the chair, but stop nursing her right before she falls asleep. Then employ the soothing methods you'll use once she's in the crib (e.g., sshing, patting, etc.) to help her fall asleep. Once she's used to that, then you can put her in the crib.
I found the gradual approach worked best for me. But, again, you need to do what feels right for you. Best of luck!
E.
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T.R. answers from San Francisco on August 27, 2008
hey J. :)
sounds like you really have taken lots of care to do the best you can for your daughter. from what you wrote it seems like you are a litte confused in what parenting style feels best to you and your husband. what i mean by that, is that you put trust in what i take as an "attachment" apporach, but now you are concerned and opting for the more unattached "cry it out" method.
you wrote:
"I am concerned that if I don't help her to learn to self-soothe by leaving her to figure it out that she will miss out on that important developmental task. But I'm unsure of how to do this the best and least stressful way."
ok...people have their whole lives to become independent and learn how to self-soothe. whomever says it needs to happen at 7 months is an idiot...no offense! you should read "our babies, ourselves" -- a really great book that talks about our biology as humans, our needs as humans, but the culture we live in and how it affects how we raise our kids and sometimes make decisions that are not in their best interest.
i say keep your daughter in your bed. letting or making her cry it out only tells her you don't care and the only reason that method finally works is that they learn that nobody will listen to their crys...how sad! that isn't the way to bui;d a trusting relationship with your baby. parent from your heart and do things when your daughter is ready. far too many people have unreal expectations on when babies/kids are suppose to be read/independent and "adult". if she learns to trust you and moves to new levels of development when she is ready she will be naturally independent.
don't worry and listen to your heart and your daughter's cues...they are so important.
by the way, i read that book too and i found it to be quite unrealistic. we took a few things away from it about the importance of sleep which helped us set some boundaries for respecting our son's sleep needs, but it is too regimented in my opinion.
we cosleep and have really grown to love it...we wouldn;t have it any other way. have patience and figure out how to get what you want as a parent without hurting your daughter by having her cry it out.
good luck :)
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K.I. answers from San Francisco on August 27, 2008
J.,
I want to recommend a different book The No Cry Sleep Solution. I had the same problem and now my son is a very healthy, happy, well adjusted 20 month old.
One other thing that you might try is using a crib/ toddler bed in a side car position to your bed. It makes the transition easier and will allow him access to you but he is in his bed and getting used to it.
Mostly I want to encourage you to find was is best for you and your family. No book has all the answers to everyones situations. Waht works for one will not always work for another. Take it all as advice not mandates and feel out what is best for your family. If some one tells you that you are doing it wrong simply smile and thank them for their advice. Hang in there you are doing a great job!
K.
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