A.F. asks from Los Angeles, CA on January 28, 2009
High Achieving Son Stuggles w/Completing Class & Homework Assign.
Hi, I would appreciate some advice about how to handle my 9 year old third grader who is really struggling right now with school. It is baffling to me and his teacher because he has been identified as gifted, is participating in the gifted program at his school and consistently scores the highest in his class on regular tests and assessments. Let me try to give you a better idea of what is happening. He is very deliberate with his work, has been since he was pre-school age and in second grade experienced a lot of difficulty with his teacher who did not have patience with him, which caused him to act out in ways that were out of character. Thankfully, our principal recognized his type of temperment and worked with me to try to resolve the issues between the teacher and my son. After a long and hard second grade year she(the principal) told me that he would be assigned to a third grade teacher who would be better suited to him and his way of working. I am very happy with his teacher this year and enjoyed seeing him become enthusiastic about school again, however, gradually he has fallen into not completing assignments in class and getting less and less of his homework done. The homework thing is extremely frustrating for me because it has gotten to the point where it will be after 7PM and he is still working and by then I am frustrated because I would like not to be doing homework the entire evening. Also, its not good after being at school all day, they need some free time in the evenings to enjoy being kids and his teacher insists he should be able to complete his assignments in an hour. She has even given me the authority to choose which assignments I deem more important and have him only do those to try to reduce his anxiety level and mine but that is not working either. Additionally, he has a brother in first grade who completes his work fairly quickly compounding the problem because they are each others playmates. They can't be compared because first grade work is easier. I could go on and on. My question is should I be overly concerned about him not completing work because as I mentioned he is advanced academically? I worry if this type of work ethic is established now he will really be in for a struggle as coursework becomes more difficult and the education system less forgiving. He offers so many excuses about his behavior that neither I or his teacher know what to believe. Further, it has been suggested I get him counseling outside of school and I am skeptical, believing we seek therapy too much in this country and does it really help? Finally, because I am a single parent it has been suggested that that could be the root of the problem again I think its something I think our society is to quick to attribute kids problems to for stereotypical reasons. After all our new president was raised by a single parent and turned out just fine and I don't believe he is the exception given the divorce rate in our country.
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L.F. answers from Los Angeles on January 29, 2009
A., I highly suggest taking your son to H.E.L.P. (The Hollywood Education and Literacy Project) located here in Hollywood. It is a free program, and what is amazing is that I've seen kids like your son come into this program and by learning the study technology they offer and getting their diet in order, they magically learn to study successfully. REALLY! You can definitely call H.E.L.P. for a free tour.
Here's their data:
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Ask for Amanda or Ann. They definitely will be able to help you and your son!
I'd also recommend checking out 5 organizations validating why going the natural route is best for you and your son:
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You'll also find some amazing data regarding alternatives at: http://www.cchr.org/solutions_and_alternatives/
And, A., please watch:
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http://www.psychconflicts.org/
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AND
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58UZqr3fiZ
Another thing to take into consideration is that sugar, dyes, different food combinations and even toxins (in the environment and home) can truly make a difference in a child's behavior.
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L. (MAMA to 16 month old Dylan Orion.......29 September 2007) : )))
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C.E. answers from Los Angeles on January 29, 2009
My opinion is he is bored to death with it. My 6 year old son has an IQ 0f 150 and skipped first grade & is currently in second grade (still way too easy). All of his work at school is completed without errors and on time, scores in the 99.9% across the board on standardized tests, but hates doing his homework. There is no challenge. At school he does what he is supposed to do because it is expected of him. At home, he knows it expected but tries everything in the world to avoid it.
HOWEVER, if I give him spelling words out of the book "1100 words adults should know" (e.g. perspicacious) he is happy as can be and will not leave his desk. If he is working on addition with regrouping 4 numbers, he wont touch it until I make it with 20 or more numbers! Science day, we will extract DNA from a banana. I want him to keep his love for learning but it is very difficult when the work is so easy.
What has worked for us at different times/days of the week:
1.He is unable to go on the computer until he has completed his homework. He can do other things until then but no computer. He loves the computer so he gets his homework done but he usually waits until after dinner.Since he is only allowed to use it for an hour a day he knows he has to get it done or go without. This has always worked. He still learns time management.
2. Sit with him while doing his homework and give him challenging work. For every easy spelling word give him 2 challenging words. My son's face lights up when we do this. Add a few more numbers onto his math problem. It keeps him interested in learning.
3. Story day can be miserable at our house (creating stories using your spelling words). However, if he attends the after school program on that day, the teacher says he completes it in 10 minutes!!! Arrgghhh....at home it would be 5 hours. Now,I find out which day this assignment occurs and let him attend the after school program. Problem solved. No more power struggles and he still learns time management.
Hope this helps. Email me if you need more info.
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G.H. answers from Los Angeles on January 29, 2009
Strange as it sounds, it could be vision related. Our daughter had many vision problems, totally undetected by regular check-ups, etc. She received reading glasses and then a year later we saw an optometrist who specializes in developmental optometry and while my other daughter and I had no problems, my older one, now 11, had many problems. Some ways of telling can be: really smart but struggling with schoolwork, hard to focus, handwriting not great (there are many others I can't think of right now). Worth getting a regular vision check up with a developmental optometrist about anyway. We saw Dr. Derek Tong in Temple City (southeast of Pasadena). I'm sure there are other good ones out there. G.
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R.T. answers from Los Angeles on January 29, 2009
A.,
How fortunate to have a gifted child! I can imagine how frustrating this must be for you. I am a child psychologist and actually do have some advice. I would be concerned- not overly concerned- but enough to seek professional advice. Of course I believe therapy can be helpful to children but I do not know what your son needs. An evaluation would assist in determining what is underlying his difficulty completing tasks. I too am a single working mother (my son is 12 months old) and I do not believe that most child problems are related to growing up in a single parent household! I commend you for being flexible and trying to work something out with the the principal. You may, however, be missing something more serious that is going on.
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N.S. answers from Los Angeles on January 29, 2009
A book I suggest is "How Your Child Is Smart". It offers up differentiated learning and has great tips on how certain kids learn using appropriate techniques. I wish I had read it when my boys were small. A lot of ADHD kids are above average in intelligence, but have a harder time learning in a standard environment. My oldest is ADHD and we chose to have him not take meds but instead focused on behavior management. My second son hated school from day one but somehow managed to graduate high school with honors. Good luck!
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A.S. answers from Los Angeles on January 29, 2009
I FEEL YOU! It is as if we have the same child, except mine was never invited into the gifted program.
What is his after-school set-up? I discovered that my son does better in a small independently-drive study group in the library versus a large loosely structured after-school program. It gives him autonomy, but it also teaches him more effective study habits as he watches his trusted peers. My son is older by a few years, so you will likely need to find the friend and suggest library study dates.
Good luck,
-A.
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A.J. answers from Los Angeles on January 29, 2009
Hi there!
I have 2 boys and am raising them as a single mother as well, mine are almost 10 and 8. 4th and 3rd graders.
My youngest son was always real quick to get his homework done. Brilliant is the word his teachers from previous years would describe him during all of the conferences. However.... his third grade year he began to have some serious focus issues and we were doing homework until 7-730 at night.
I still haven't found the answer to why this sudden change began but what has helped is that between each page of homework completed we take a 10-15 minute break. The breaks come fewer and further between now as we have been doing this for about a month already. I hope it helps!
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C.T. answers from Los Angeles on January 29, 2009
First of all, you're doing great. Sounds like you have a great family. The third grade is when learning disabilities manifest. There is a huge amount of learning disabilities within the gifted population. My son was your son's age when we started realizing that something was not right. The struggles to get homework done were amazing, and I found myself hiding in the bathroom, after trying all sorts of homework remedies. Is your son experiencing any kinds of vision issues? I always recommend having a thorough eye exam. Sometimes they just need glasses but don't know it. This is the age when the print in the chapter books gets a little smaller, and kids have difficulty with tracking, and comprehension. (By the way, avoid vision therapy, it's quackery.) Sometimes there's a more complicated issue such as dyslexia, ADD, etc. but stick to the simple stuff first, and talk to the teacher. Your son is probably not the only one in the class having homework challenges. Sometimes a study group can help, and sometimes pulling in a nice teenager to help, and pulling yourself out of the equation can be a lifesaver. Kids like peers. Best of luck, your head is in the right place! I've been there.
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