B.Z. asks from Huntington Beach, CA on September 14, 2009
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V.M. answers from Los Angeles on September 15, 2009
i would not have any talks of any docs and the meds. it is normal child behavior. it's the school that has to change, not the child! in an ideal situation, you would want to go to the split grade or Montessori school. i held my child back one year after the 1st grade and it made all the difference.
Good Luck
V.
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C.C. answers from Los Angeles on September 15, 2009
First, so proud of you that you are seeking medicine alternatives before you take that step. Dr. William Sears just came out with a new book on ADD. I also LOVE the advice in his book called "The Healthiest Kid in the Neigborhood". It's all nutrition based. You can listen to him speak about kids nutrition and the positive effects on the 800 number ###-###-####. I have an excellent whole food nutritional supplement you would be interested in trying as well to help you toward this end. He talks about it. If you'd like more information, just let me know! Good luck!
Oh and I wanted to add that my son has an immediate reaction to things with dyes and sodas - it's almost as if he was drugged! Avoid them :-)
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S.G. answers from Los Angeles on September 15, 2009
2 weeks in and she's already telling you this? Did you have problems in Kindergarten? Or in preschool (if he went)? Do you have problems with him at home?
Google ADD and see what the symptoms are and see how YOU feel. And, if you agree, then speak with the doctor. But, I don't know how she could possibly be telling you this already. I don't even know that I agree with her telling you this at all. Seems like teachers just want a bunch of medicated zombies to make their jobs easier.
And, just so you know, my son has ADHD and takes meds. So, I'm not totally opposed, I just can't believe she told you this.
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L.J. answers from Los Angeles on September 15, 2009
Wow, it really makes me sad to see all the ADHD-phobic replies you've received.
ADHD is not something to be afraid of, nor is it a diagnosis to avoid.
Your son might just be going through an adjustment period, he may just be energetic, or he might be "ADHD." "Energetic" is a label, "just a phase" is a label, and "ADHD" is just another label. None of those labels changes who he is.
First I would suggest meeting with his teacher and come up with an incentive/reward plan. Most teachers (who have worked with unfocused children before) will have a system or two that they can start to implement. Something as simple as using a timer to get his homework done can work great. Give him X amount of time to finish, if he finished before time is up, he gets the rest of the time "banked" and he gets to spend that time doing something really fun at the end of the week, etc.. Try to avoid punitive systems; the goal is to encourage good behavior, not punish behavior he may not be able to control.
A child CAN be a straight A student and still have ADHD (just like my son and several of his G.A.T.E. classmates). They CAN focus intently on some things (with my son it's video games), yet be unable to stay on task when it comes to school work. They can fidget and play with things like pencils and erasers or even just strips of paper in class, but if you ask them what is being discussed, they will know exactly what's going on. They can excel in sports (our son has a black belt in tae kwon do), yet struggle for hours to get 15 minutes worth of homework done. They can sit still for hours reading a book, but need to stand or pace while eating dinner. They can be perfect eaters, avoid processed foods, eat veggies and whole grains, and still be bouncing off the walls. Your sons teacher is only trying to help you, and herself and the rest of the class, find an answer to why your son is having trouble focusing, etc...
We held our son back in kindergarten, thinking his fidgetiness and lack of focus might be because he was immature and one of the youngest in class. His 2nd grade teacher suggested we think about having him assessed for ADHD. We never got around to it that year, besides, he was getting good grades. His 3rd grade teacher wanted him tested for GATE (gifted and talented) and he passed in the 99th percentile. We thought that was the answer to why he was fidgety, unfocused, disruptive, etc; he was bored. In 4th grade we thought that would all go away because he would be in a GATE class where he would be challenged and more engaged. Wrong! The only thing to change was the type and amount of work he had. We struggled for another 2 years, thankfully with very supportive and understanding teacher who were willing to adjust his workload, before his 6th grade teacher mentioned the possibility of ADHD. This time we had him assessed and concluded that he was probably on the ADHD spectrum (he is not hyperactive, just unfocused). Eventually we started him on Adarall XR and the difference was literally night and day. His first day of school on the meds was truly amazing; he was focused, on task, and got his homework done in just 2 hours, as opposed to the 4-6 hours it usually took him. His younger brother and I were able to have a conversation next to him, which "normally" he would have joined, but was able to stay focused on his work without interjecting at all. That is when we both knew this was the answer we had been looking for for 5 years! He was SO happy, I cried. All the YEARS we struggled....what a waste. All the tears we both cried trying to get him through his assignments, homework, unfinished classwork, etc....things our family couldn't do because he had to spend weekends finishing assignments. I WISH he had been assessed when he was younger, but am so thankful for the diagnosis now and the tiny blue capsule that has changed not only his life, but our whole family's.
Good luck to you and your son, and don't be afraid to explore every possibility.
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S.F. answers from Reno on September 15, 2009
Hi B.,
Another idea for you to consider is to spend some time in your son's classroom and see for yourself what's going on. Plan on staying for at least 30-60 minutes at different times of the day. Go in with no preconceived notions as to what's ok or not, just observe, maybe take some notes. Then, ask the teacher what she saw as disruptive and unfocused. It could be you and your son's teacher have different ideas as to what those words look like.
My son was "labeled" as ADHD by his 2nd grade teacher. After hours of observation, I learned that my son had a great teacher, but one that just DID NOT work for him. Her classroom rules, atmosphere, everything, was the complete opposite of what my son needed to learn. (If you want the full and complete list, to compare notes, feel free to respond to this post). My husband and I should've switched classes, but instead we opted to try to work things out with the teacher. That didn't work out very well...for the teacher. She wasn't willing to change any of her policies and our pedi laughed himself silly when asked about an ADHD diagnosis. He said that as long as my son was earning good grades (he had all As and Bs) and was well-adjusted in all other areas (he was), then the problem was the teacher not being able to keep up with my son. Our solution that year was that she would send all incomplete work home and I'd supervise his learning. The scary thing was that he finished 7.5 hours worth of education in 45 minutes after school.
A big reason we knew our son wasn't ADHD was because we had him enrolled in a variety of other classes and we were careful to observe his actions during these classes and at home. A kid who can spend 3 hours at age 6 analyzing Pokemon cards IS NOT ADHD. A kid who can learn 64 step karate "forms" IS NOT ADHD. A kid who can spend two hours each weekend learning another language IS NOT ADHD. Sadly, our educational system, in a quest to correct thousands of years of injustice towards little girls' education, has created a system that completely leaves little boys out. When we don't have an hour of PE each day for little boys to bleed off energy, when we don't give them proper nutrition or proper amounts of sleep, we run into problems.
My purported "ADHD" son is now in the 6th grade, has no trouble sitting through his 6 classes a day and is earning fine grades. He was just slow to mature, very energetic and incredibly bored with the average elementary classroom environment. The flip side...his parents make sure he gets plenty of sleep, excellent nutrition and runs 2 hours a day to bleed off energy.
This is a tough situation. Observe, plan on supplementing your son's education at home, and be honest with yourself about your son's capabilities. Do not jump to any conclusions! It's hard--we're so protective of our children--but now is not the time for knee-jerk, emotional responses.
Good luck.
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C.A. answers from Los Angeles on September 15, 2009
First of all, you should request a meeting with the school district psychologist and have THEM test him for ADD or ADHD and also for some possible learning disorders. There is a difference. Also, how did your son behave in Kindergarten? Boys mature slower than girls and sometimes it is better to hold them back a year. AFTER you have had your son tested, I would suggest that you have your son in ANOTHER class with a more tolerant teacher. I am going to guess that the current teacher can't stand boys. Boys are a different species from girls. They are more energetic and physical. IF the testing shows that he is ADD or ADHD, THEN take him to a doctor who specializes in this disorder to confirm the diagnosis and possible treatment options that DON"T include drugs, including behavior modification and biofeedback. Don't just settle for the drug option. THAT IS THE LAST RESORT. My son had ADD in addition to a learning disorder. He did not want to take medication and used music to help him focus. For him, this was his alternative to drugs. He is a bright young man and is in his last year of college. You just have to ask yourself, is your son ADD or just a normal boy with an intolerant teacher? She should have referred your son for testing and not mentioned ADD but your son's inability to sit still and focus. Not being able to sit still for a six year old is NORMAL. Focusing is another issue. You might ask the principal how many students this teacher refers for ADD and how many are boys. Just a thought.
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B.H. answers from Los Angeles on September 15, 2009
Why don't you go and visit his classroom? Sit in the back, well away from your child, not with him and not helping him, because you won't see his normal classroom behaviors if you are next to him. Tell him you are busy if he approaches you. Bring some paper, and if you see him looking at you, start writing. You want him to behave naturally instead of being focused on your presence. Plan on staying all day, back at a distance, observe him during lessons, and in other school settings like recess, library, lunch. Then you can decide what you think, if the teacher's assertions are valid, and if anything may or may not need to be done.
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B.L. answers from Los Angeles on September 15, 2009
I would totally agree about observing in the classroom. Last year our school said our son had ADD, but when doing homework with him at home I did not see the same distractibility. I noticed a pattern of distraction -- it was worse when it was noisy (and his classroom was on the main playground for the school, and the teacher taught with the doors open). Turns out my son has auditory processing disorder (read http://capdsupport.org for info). It looks identical to ADD, but it's a hearing issue, not a biochemical issue. I would research thoroughly and follow your mom's intuition before accepting an ADD diagnosis. They give that label out too much these days (in my opinion). You know your child best!
Take care,
B.
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R.J. answers from San Diego on September 15, 2009
Well...you asked for experience, and unfortunately there's just not enough space.
The highlights:
- I'm ADHD, and my son *probably* is.
- It's an absolutely FABULOUS, amazing, fantastic "disorder" to have. It actually has more gifts than downfalls...but the downfalls are particularly annoying, so many people without ADHD never bother to look any further.
- Most people DON'T have it.
- If it can be "fixed" with nutrition/ sleep/ parenting/ removing allergens/etc...it's NOT ADHD. It's malnutrition or digestive disorder/ sleep dep or disorder/ a parenting problem/ an allergic reaction/ etc. ADHD is just like autism or genius...it's the way our BRAIN's work. You can work around the way that your brain works (coping mechanisms), you can make sure you aren't contributing to the problem, but you can't out and out change the brain without drugs/surgery/or trauma.
- NEVER get diagnosed by a family doc or a teacher... BUT take recommendations about the POSSIBILITY of adhd from them quite seriously. People who work with "normal" kids tend to spot the ones who aren't fairly easily. Whether they're not "normal" because they're gifted, adhd, a natural athlete, suffering from lack of sleep, dysgraphic, dyslexic, synesthestic, etc....REALLY needs a professional in that field...or you'll just get the "pop" diagnosis.
- See a psychologist or social worker specializing in ADHD for an ADHD diagnosis or rule out. Typically avoid behavioral psychologists. (The way that psychology is broken up is by the way that they veiw treatments, not what they're treating. A cognitive-behavioral psychologist will treat a patient WAY different than either a cognitive psychologist OR a behavioral psychologist. I know, confusing, what? And there are about 20 different branches. Developmental Psychologists and Physiological Psycologists are my personal favs...but to each their own flavor.)
- Expect the testing to last for a minimum of an hour, and more commonly 3-4 hours. If you're in and out in 5 minutes...no go.
- You do NOT have to medicate ADHD...although most non-adhd parents seem to...and most ADHD adults have at least *tried* several of the meds that are out there. A great psychologist (note psychologists tend to be the counselors, but psychiatrists are the docs who dispense meds. A psychologist appt typically lasts an hour, a psychiatrist appt typically lasts 15 minutes.) can be INVALUABLE in learning medication-free coping mechanisms. And in sorting out what's regular old development, and what's adhd.
- Read up. "You mean I'm not lazy, stupid, or crazy?!?" by peggy ramundo, and kate kelly is a good one. There are also yahoo groups that are specifically adhd, that can give you a lot of info/experience from people who are being there/doing that...or been there/done that. Avoid anything or anyone who purports to cure or fix adhd. Like I said, if you can fix it, it wasn't adhd to begin with.
Good luck! And if it DOES turn out to be adhd, congratulations :)
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V.C. answers from San Diego on September 16, 2009
Wow, responses are all over the map...As an Adult w/ADHD, daughter of an Adult w/ADHD, sister of 2 adults w/ADHD & a mom of 2 ADHD daughters--see a pattern here? Yes, it runs in families... Try the alternates: diet, supplements, exerise, reward charts but don't wait to try meds...my oldest daughter had 100% more behavior problems because I wouldn't try meds for her...live & learn.
Educate yourself about ADHD. ADHD is an issue of how the brain functions...not how smart or not a person is. And just like all of life, one size does NOT fit all. There are many great books out there, one my family has especially liked is called "Healing ADD" by Dr. Daniel G. Amen. He recommends all of the various alternatives & yes, sometimes meds are needed. If your boy needed glasses, would you hesitate to get them for him?
Please don't discount the teacher just because it's been 2 weeks...she's seeing him in a setting that is stressful for him (new room, teacher, classmates, work load) & she is just trying to help HIM be a better student. Look into the other things that could be causing focus problems, like whether or not his hearing or sight is 100%, reading or processing disorders..the school psychologist & your doctor can help you figure it out. Good Luck!!
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B.H. answers from Los Angeles on September 15, 2009
B., first of all HE IS 6! Anyone in their right mind who would say a 6 year old "has difficulty staying focused and disrupts the class" should be reminded CONSISTENTLY HE IS 6!!!
I am a retired special needs school teacher, SO I have a bit of experience on this subject. I now work with families of special needs kids out side of the school system to truly help. Schools and the medical industry push to medicate children so they will "fit in the system". I teach parents how to "feed their family" so that they family "fits into life".
Did you know some of the most famous people on the planet are/were ADD?
Ansel Adams, photographer; Alexander Graham Bell, inventor or the telephone; Hans Christian Anderson, author; Beethoven; Terry Bradshaw, foot ball quarterback; Jim Carrey, Actor; Prince Charles; Cher; Agatha Christie; Salvador Dali, Leonardo da Vinci; Walt Disney; Henry Ford; Magic Johnson, JFK; John D Rockefeller; even Albert Einstein…I could go on…
Can you imagine what may have happened to them if their parents decided to medicate them? Would they be who they are today?
PLEASE EDUCATE DON'T MEDICATE!!
Here is what some moms who are working with me are saying:
Kim, Mom of Amber, 6, Garret, 10, & Shelby, 15
“After struggling in school for two years with not being able to focus and regulate his behaviour, my 10 year old son, Garret, after 8 weeks on Barbilee’s nutritional program, is a new boy. Normally, he would have at least one incident a day and sometimes multiple! His school said I should put him on a popular “doctor recommended medicinal program” to help maintain his focus. I chose food instead. He is able to focus and moderate his own energy so he can get the most out of his studies and relationships at school. We have noticed the change at home also. Our WHOLE FAMILY now is part of program designed by B. and we are well on our way toward our optimal health!”
Angela, Mom of Jared age 6 and Nyah, age 2.
My son (6) was heading down a very BAD road in school. He was RARELY focused, always "fidgety," becoming increasingly defiant and a behavior problem, and he HATED THE ALPHABET!!! By the bizillionth time his teacher reported a bad day with him, I decided ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!! That was a Friday. I decided to lisen to Barbile and JUST FEED HIM RIGHT...for a week and see what happened. Monday off to school he went. THAT DAY, his teacher reported an EXCELLENT day with him! Tuesday = AWESOME DAY. Wednesday = amazed look on her face = GREAT DAY!!! By the end of the week, he had had the best week in school he'd ever had! I have known for months that I needed to feed my kids better but I just didn't know how. B. made it simple. Anyway, we are finishing up our second week of our family nutritional program, and school has become an awesome experience for him rather than a drudgery. I LOVE asking him how his day was!
Also, my little girl was born with special needs and has always been pretty much "in her own world." She rarely paid attention to anyone around her. She would never interact with others. She would tire easily and constantly take "cat naps." Once I started feeding her differently, every day the difference was night and day. Her aide reports that she pays attention to the other kids at school and even LAUGHS at them!! She's focused on the activities (NEVER BEFORE!!), and she's engaging in activities that I never thought she'd be able to do. AND she can go all afternoon WITHOUT A NAP!! In other words, she's wonderful!"
Let me help your family.
B.
Family Wellness Coach
EDUCATE NOT MEDICATE
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