E.B. asks from North Las Vegas, NV on November 04, 2008
Having a Hard Time Trying to Teach My 4 Year Old!!!!
Hello wonderful moms! I need your help. My 4 year old is having a hard time focusing. Since I'm a SAHM and we don't really have the funds to send him to a preschool, I try to teach him myself a long with my 21 month old son. He is very smart BUT its like he dont apply hisself. My husband told him he wants a SMART kid not the COOL kid. My son then says to his father, "Well I want to be cool, not smart!" We can sit down and try to do his workbooks and worksheets and he wants to play, or he starts talking about something that has nothing to do with what we're doing. Sometime you can as him a letter sound and he will freeze up or act like like he is going to cry. Not only that he wil take 30 to 45 minutes trying to tell us what the letter is. I know he knows his letters sounds, because I taught him. One minute he will tell you all of his letter sounds then the next he won't know them. I do reward him with stickers, art projects and field trips and different other things to let him know that he has done a good job. He wants to go to school because our oldest is in school, I explain to him that he cant go to school if he don't try to do his work. We do story time and hes everywhere except for listening to the story. He talking and playing with his hands or his feet or something thats keeping his attention from listening to the story. When he watches TV he still running aroung playing with the football or something else, until I force him to stop playing put the toys up and just watch his cartoons. At first I thought it was me just not having patience with him, but my husband has tried as well and he's just as concerned as I am. Infact he wants us to take him to the doctor to get checked out for ADD or ADHD! I try to give him the benefit of the doubt and just say he's a kid and just wants to play, but he does have to learn that there is a time and a place for things too. I don't want to make that our conclusion and just start making him take medication so he can focus, but it is starting to take a toll on us. So if anyone can help and give us some advice PLEASE HELP!!!!
So What Happened?™
WOW! I am so blessed to have have received so many great responses from all of you wonderful moms! I'm going to try out all of them. I have tried explaining that to my husband that he just a kid and thats all thats on his mind is playing, and that when he is ready we will know.....I have laid off of the workbooks and the worksheets, and I have notice that he enjoys when I make learning fun for him. He likes the art projects and starting to enjoy cooking ( of course he eats all the cake batter and cookie dough.) One thing that I did forget about HE KNOWS HIS ABC'S, 1-30, COLORS SHAPES OUR ADDRESS AND HIS BIRTHDAY! He knows his full name, writes better than my nephew who is in the 2nd grade and everything else will fall in place when he starts school. I also learned that its just us wanting him to be where our 5 year old was when she was his age. They are two different kids. I will update all of you moms about who he is doing down road. I THANK ALL OF YOU AND WANT YOU ALL TO BE BLESSED. Earnestine
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A.W. answers from San Diego on November 06, 2008
Relax, enjoy and stop pushing so hard! Like lots of other moms said out here, you are expecting way too much from someone that isn't capable at this point of doing what you are asking!
They grow up so fast, just love him, play with him and let him grow at his own pace. I've seen kids in my daughter's classes who got put into school way too fast and they are now struggling with everything they do.
M.C. answers from Honolulu on November 05, 2008
Do you really need to push him so hard already?? You know they teach him academics in kindergarten. My daughter went to preschool and the emphasis was on social interactions, following rules, learning through play and they did lots of messy and fun projects that were interactive and focused on using their senses to observe and create. They incorporated the ABC's into the activities, but they did not stress academics and ABC/123 was more of an osmosis - thing. My daughter is now in first grade and she is reading just fine.
I suggest that instead of "working" on his lessons, you get him involved in activities with his peers. There are lots of free and low-cost activities available. If you live on Maui I can let you know where they are. Talk to other moms and see what is available near you. Best of luck to you. There will be time when he gets into school to "get him tested" and get him help if he truly needs it, but for now, just let him be a little kid.
A. answers from Los Angeles on November 05, 2008
Take him outside. Have him write with chalk. Kick a soccer ball with him. Fly a kite. say the alphabet while you push him on the swing. Workbooks don't teach 4 year olds, play teaches them. I never pushed that stuff on my son and eventually he started asking how to write his name. Then he started kindergarten and he loves it. At 5 he was ready.
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M.H. answers from Los Angeles on November 05, 2008
If he wants to go to school check out what First 5 has to offer. There are preschools that your child can attend at discounted rates if you do not qualify for free! He could be bored with his letter sounds and therefore doesnt care to sound them out anymore because he and with the pressure he undoubtedly feels it may make him feel like he cant be successful or please you. Try moving on to small words cat dog boat and so on try helping him write out his letters advance him if he already knows something and has known it move on! He could also just need to be around other kids so joining a moms group that has playdates and get togethers could be helpful as well.
As for cool kid versus smart kid... YOU CAN BE BOTH! There's nothing uncool about getting A's and there's ALOT wrong with allowing your kid to perform under par in order to be cool and "fit in" Which would you prefer your kid getting college scholarships for good grades or being voted most popular?! Plenty of athletes and cool kids perform in school and in class teaching your child that being smart is a bad thing is an incredibly bad idea.
Remember 4 year olds are busy bodies. There's so much for boys to do and get into and they dont think like girls do. However if you're worried about him being ADD or ADHD then get him tested. Studies have shown the earlier its treated the earlier its detected the better they respond to treatment and the better their odds of living normally. Best of luck to you and your beautiful family!
*M.*
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C.L. answers from Las Vegas on November 05, 2008
Hi Earnestine,
It appears you've gotten a lot of good responses so I'll keep this short. My son, turned 3 in Aug, has fun and plays while he learns. So for example, while he's watching TV, say the Backyardagains, he learns what color each of the characters are... while he's playing with his toy trains, he's counting the different cars on the train, when he watches Sesame St. he's learning numbers and letters. When we go to the library he mimicks what the other kids do when they sit in front of the librarian and listen to the story... when we drive around town, he's looking out for different shapes or colors. Learning can be done anywhere! Here's a great link to show you what your child should know at which stages... http://www.worldbook.com/wb/Students?curriculum/preschool and another great article on the important things for school readiness, it's not what most people think of... http://www.redshift.com/~bonajo/early.htm
Hope this helps,
C.~
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K.R. answers from San Diego on November 05, 2008
Hi. How about Cool AND Smart?!
I'm a kindergarten teacher (9 years) and a mother of 2 children (9 and 1). Personally I feel that your son should be running around and full of energy at this point. I would rather he play with his football or whatever than watch cartoons quietly. If the tv was on and he loses interest I would quietly turn it off. It is not uncommon for him to have a short attention span and not want to sit still for long. Worksheets and flashcards will most likely be like pulling teeth...only raising your anxiety and his. It sounds as if he is under a lot of pressure and stress (evidence by his rebelliousness when you ask him his letter sounds and also his tearfullness.) Little kids learn by doing hands on activities. So anything that you want to teach him has to come in a entertaining format and in short doses. For instance, leap frog has a lot of learning type games that are colorful and interactive. JumpStart has neat computer games for preschoolers. You could adapt movement games into games that require him to say a letter or make a sound. Books should also be short and colorful and you need to "ham it up" as you read...using different voices and enlisting his help with finding things on the page or asking him what might happen next.
Again though, you can only expect a few minutes of real attention from some young children AND you cannot get stressed out and angry with him when he loses his focus. I know that it hard because you feel like he NEEDS to know this now. Don't worry, he'll get it. They just don't always get it on OUR timelines, you know?! Your goal (and any good teachers' goal) is to make him want to learn and if it's not an enjoyable experience then he will become turned off to the entire prospect. We DON'T want that!! :-) We want him to be eager and energetic and curious. Even if it turns out that he does have some Attention Defecits...threatening him into doing better won't likely change his behavior long term. Structure and patience and gentle redirection will.
In my classroom, our activities start out at about 7 minutes and then slowly grow to 20 minutes of undivided attention to one task or activity. Kindergarten END OF THE YEAR standards are knowing letter sounds and letter names- so it's okay if he only knows some when he starts. I've had students that came in with nothing. If you think about it, letters and sounds of letters are very abstract and a child has to be developmentally ready to take them on and understand what their purpose is. Just like development is going to play a big part in whether or not his fine motor skills are ready enough for him to write legibly. It's not always a 'lack of effort' problem...just not ready. K teachers also would love by the END of the year if they are able to sound out words when reading, sound out and write short words and put together simple sentences with some words known as sight words or high frequency words (and, is, my, like etc.) Your kindergarten teacher will let you know what he should be working on when he gets there. Right now, you can work on PHONEMIC AWARENESS which is simply rhyming and word play. Look up some activities online. Also, keep reading to him...it is THE most important thing. Talk and explore the world.
My older daughter has recently been diagnosed ADD/inattentive. She is not on medication. I've had several students with ADD/ADHD and other disorders. Sometimes medication is a Godsend but not always. There is a lot of information online about that too but I would not jump to conclusions too soon. If you do the research you will find that the behaviors need to have been present for several months in at least 2 different settings (ie. school, sunday school, home etc.) My feeling is that if he wants to go to school a few hours a day then it couldn't hurt. The teachers will notice quickly if your child is unlike others in the class and then you can go from there. They may be able to offer you some strategies to help him. I have found that many times boys who start kindergarten young with the big demands that we have on them require more time and sometimes a second year of K but they are not ADHD. Give it some time and try not to worry. Have fun with your little guy! :-)
I also recommend 123 Magic (I got it at the library). It was a great discipline method that I am using with my kids. I hope that I've been some help to you. Take care.
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N.V. answers from Las Vegas on November 05, 2008
I didn't read through the other responses, but just wanted to mention a few things.
It's not a matter of being smart OR cool. Children should understand it's important to be friendly and social, as well as a good thinker and hard worker. You can explain this to him in kind, loving ways.
Find things that interest HIM, especially if you want to do it in the form of worksheets and other sit-down work, even if that means writing about transformers, reading about big trucks or counting Halloween candy. As long as he's getting the exposure to numbers and letters and it peaks his interest, it's going to help him learn.
Reading time is so important. Keep on reading with him and his siblings, even several times a day if you can. But let him choose the books to read. Take him to the library and let him get anything he wants, so he gets the excitement of doing it because HE wants to not because a parent is making him.
I'm trying to figure out why you'd want him to watch cartoons instead of play. Playing is a HUGE form of learning, especially free uninterrupted play where his imagination is turning, exploring, and creating. In fact, I'd say free play and exposure to reading are two of the most important things for a young child.
Most of all, take a deep breath and relax. The calmer you are about this, the more comfortable he'll be, realizing he's not being critiqued on every move he makes (or doesn't make). Getting him to have the DESIRE to learn is more important than making him learn, if that makes sense?
Good luck,
N.
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S.H. answers from Honolulu on November 04, 2008
In my State, via the Department of Human Services, they have a program, that pays for Preschool for those that meet the income guidelines. It's called "Preschool Open Doors." Here is the link:
http://www.patchhawaii.org/families/payingForCare.asp
http://www.ecs.org/dbsearches/search_info/PreK_ProgramPro...
Perhaps, research the tuition programs they may have in your State as well. It's worth the time.
For us, this is the way the my daughter was able to attend Preschool. Otherwise, we could not afford it. The subsidy program paid for it all. It was such a blessing.. .and my girl really needed it... she was "ready" for a school atmosphere by this time. She even was telling us she wants to go to school... and we were able to send her when she made 4 years old. It was invaluable for her and us.
All the best,
Susan
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L.D. answers from Las Vegas on November 05, 2008
I understand that you want the best for your son and you want him to be bright but maybe the way you are going about this is not the best one for you or for him. Here's what I would suggest for you:
#1 Make learning a part of your everyday experiences. Learning can happen anywhere and everywhere. Workbooks and flashcards should only be a small part of how he learns. Nickelodeon and Sesame Street magazine both have a lot of fun ideas of activities you can do when you are at home. Also check out the education section on www.ivillage.com for age appropriate hands-on activities to help your child learn math, science, letter recognition, etc.
#2 Keep in mind that he's only 4 years old. If you want him to sit down and do homework, limit the time that he spends on it to no more than 15 minutes per day and set up a special place for him to do his homework. Provide him with fun pencils (Crayola has these stinky pencils that my son loves), stickers and everything he needs to do his homework.
#3 Show a huge amount of enthusiasm when your son gives you a correct response or completes a workbook page. You can't be too over the top with your enthusiasm in the very beginning. You want to make learning fun for him and your excitement, some tickles and hooting and hollering are probably what's needed right now to take the "work" out of homework.
Please keep in mind that if you want your child to go the full distance of K - 12th grade and beyond, you have to help him create the internal desire to learn and do his best. You can try forcing this upon him but, as you can see, it really doesn't work that well. Guiding him and showing him that learning is fun and how good it feels when he does a good job and his parents are proud of him will take him a lot further in life.
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T.F. answers from Los Angeles on November 05, 2008
He is 4 years old. He doesn't need this pressure cooker intensity right now. Not only does he need it, he is not developmentally ready for it. Why are you pushing this so hard? There are all types of preschools and I have not seen one that is doing what you are (forcing a child to sit down and "work" on worksheets or workbooks.) If I did, I'd run in the opposite direction. Most are play-developmental based because most early childhood experts know what children need after years of observation and research.
There is a study that shows that children who were pushed academically early on were no better (and did worse) later on. It's called the Marcon Study.
http://www.ooeygooey.com/mary/resources/articles/how_do_y...
I know there is a push from certain large and small companies that tell parents kids can and should learn more, but those companies are really just trying to make money. There have been new books published in the last 1-10 years that argue children need to EXPLORE their world in the early years, not sit in front of Baby Einstein, Not Flashcards and Not Computers.
EINSTEIN NEVER USED FLASHCARDS: How Our Children Really Learn-- And
Why They Need to Play More and Memorize Less (Hardcover)
by Kathy Hirsh-Pasek and Roberta Michnick Golinkoff
http://www.amazon.com/Einstein-Never-Used-Flash-Cards/dp/...
The Power of Play: How Spontaneous, Imaginative Activities Lead to Happier,
Healthier
Children by David Elkind
What he should be doing is PLAY, PLAY, PLAY.... that is how they will learn and that is the building blocks of knowledge.
Please go to the ooeygooey.com website and click on Lisa Murphy's Resource page. Scroll down to WORKSHOP Handouts. Click on "The Importance of Early Experiences"
http://www.ooeygooey.com/mary/resources/ess_workshop_hand...
Your approach will only turn him off to "learning" since it is so stressful. When people (children or adults) are stressed (afraid, you are using fear to "reward" him when you tell him, "if you don't do this, you won't get that) the BRAIN SHUTS DOWN. There is no learning happening.
Watching TV every day isn't the best for brain development. Read ENDANGERED MINDS by Jane Healy. She argues it * contributes * to attention problems (so if you care about that, turn it off.) In our house TV is not a daily thing. That is my compromise.
As far as him being ADHD, I'd argue no, he is just normal. He is normal for wanting to play and not wanting to be drilled on stuff.
There are better ways to do it (teach) - through fun stories, books, songs - and boring ways (worksheets, workbooks.) That is how preschools do it.
DISCOVER YOUR CHILD's LEARNING STYLE is also another book that will help you understand your child's learning style.
http://www.learningsuccessinstitute.com/
I did the profile online for myself and my 8.5 year old. My 4 year old is a bit too young for it, but by reading the book, I definitely recognize her learning modalities and that will help me, help support her later on.
My children went (go) to a play based preschool and my son went to their hands-on, developmental Kindergarten. There were very few worksheets and LOTS of hands-on experimenting (play-dough, shaving cream, building blocks, playing, exploring.) It was an INCREDIBLE year. I felt sorry for my friends children's who were in the regular Public K with boring worksheets most of the time. Learning can be so much more fun and deeper than that. Please learn more about Learning Styles and that will help you go in the right direction.
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S.S. answers from Los Angeles on November 05, 2008
Congratulations, you are the mom of a normal, active, and probably pretty smart little boy.
When my son was this age there is no way I could have gotten him to focus on anything, his mind as always running and his body too.
Try teaching him without "teaching him." There are some awesome videos from leap frog that will teach him the alphabet and the sounds and the second one (wait until he's about 5) teaches them how to combine them into words. This is how my son learned how to read and spell. He also loved Thomas the Train so I bought him a Thomas alphabet book.
Outdoors is a great way to learn too. We spent hours wandering around looking at ants and dirt and weeds and everything else, if I didn't know an answer I looked it up and we talked about it the next day on our walk. We looked for letters on license plates as we walked and repeated their sounds, I pointed out simple words for him to start reading. We counted red cars or lines in the sidewalk, or eggs in the box. There really is so much he can learn by experience at this age.
At 4 my son knew all about Women's sufferage and the fight for the vote because he loved the movie Mary Poppins and there is a song about it, so we talked about it. Teach him how the vacuum works, why we wash clothes and how a dryer or clothes line gets our clothes dry. Have him help sort clothes to learn his colors. These are the things that will put him ahead.
It is more important that he learn to learn than learning anything specific.
Good luck.
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