Gas Prices - Pittsburgh,PA

Updated on April 14, 2012
☆.A. asks from Beverly Hills, CA
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So I heard the other day that gas prices will "peak" over the next month and then begin to fall. Here's hoping!
What, exactly, makes gas prices rise and fall?
Does anyone out there understand the concept?
Many could use a good explanation, including me!

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E.B.

answers from Seattle on

I blame it on Speculation.

I think that consumption on a person to person basis has actually gone down.

More are using Public Transportation, Walking or using some other form of moving(Bikes, Blades, boards).

So supply and demand for me just doesnt make sense. I am sure on a global level it is effecting things some.

Speculators get to determine what the supply and demand seems to be. Projection I am convinced is not some scientific equation any more.

I stopped choking when I pulled into the gas station a long time ago.

I buy gas on pay days and put in enough of the opposite weeks just to get to where I need to go for the week(if I drove more then normally on my full week and am low), which is about half a tank.

I go crazy when gas prices raise and the profits of the oil companies go up.

I am under the impression the word ''Profit'' is what they are making once all other things are paid as well. ''Gross Profit'' is never truly discussed in my opinion.

Speculation is by far the worst thing driving gas prices here. If we had better control on Speculation and let the True Supply and demand determine the cost of a barrel of oil you would likely see prices come down. Right now they can project any number they see fit for the moment. That is why we see them ''Peak'' and then come down again. It is not natural ebb and flow. It is ''speculated ebb and flow''.

Now the days of $`1.20 gas are gone. I think the $2.50-$2.75 is more reasonably targeted.

I am not a professor on the topic. This is just my personally opinion and understanding on this issue.

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M.L.

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Well, they say supply and demand, cost of crude oil, seasonal changes, fear of unrest in warring countries where oil production is, traders bidding up future contracts... but gas companies are making record profits this year... and the past few years. If the gas inflation cost was due to supply and demand, then the profits would be the same. We have quite a few friends in the gas and oil industry... a few of them got yearly bonuses in the $20,000 range, some even more.

These explain it better:

http://useconomy.about.com/od/commoditiesmarketfaq/p/high...

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/09/150304921/what-makes-gas-pr...

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B.D.

answers from Pittsburgh on

Here's an excellent article that ran in the Post Gazette 3-25-2012.

More U.S. drilling didn't drop gas price

Sunday, March 25, 2012

By Seth Borenstein and Jack Gillum, Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- It's the political cure-all for high gas prices: Drill here, drill now. But more U.S. drilling has not changed how deeply the gas pump drills into your wallet, math and history show.

A statistical analysis of 36 years of monthly, inflation-adjusted gasoline prices and U.S. domestic oil production by The Associated Press shows no statistical correlation between how much oil comes out of U.S. wells and the price at the pump.

If more domestic oil drilling worked as politicians say, you'd now be paying about $2 a gallon for gasoline. Instead, you're paying the highest prices ever for March.

Political rhetoric about the blame over gas prices and the power to change them -- whether Republican claims now or Democrats' charges four years ago -- is not supported by cold, hard figures. And that's especially true about oil drilling in the United States. More oil production in the United States does not mean consistently lower prices at the pump.

Sometimes prices increase as American drilling ramps up. That's what has happened in the past three years. Since February 2009, U.S. oil production has increased 15 percent when seasonally adjusted. Prices in those three years went from $2.07 per gallon to $3.58. It was a case of drilling more and paying much more.

U.S. oil production is back to the same level it was in March 2003, when gas cost $2.10 per gallon when adjusted for inflation. But that's not what prices are now.

That's because oil is a global commodity and U.S. production has only a tiny influence on supply. Factors far beyond the control of a nation or a president dictate the price of gasoline.

When you put the inflation-adjusted price of gas on the same chart as U.S. oil production since 1976, the numbers sometimes go in the same direction, sometimes in opposite directions. If drilling for more oil meant lower prices, the lines on the chart would consistently go in opposite directions. A basic statistical measure of correlation found no link between the two, and outside statistical experts confirmed those calculations.

"Drill, baby, drill has nothing to do with it," said Judith Dwarkin, chief energy economist at ITG investment research. Two other energy economists said the same thing and experts in the field have been making that observation for decades.

The statistics directly contradict the title of GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich's 2008 book "Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less," as well as the campaign-trail claims from the GOP presidential candidates.

Earlier this month, GOP front-runner Mitt Romney said of his solution to higher gas prices: "I can cut through the baloney ... and just tell him, 'Mr. President, open up drilling in the Gulf, open up drilling in ANWR (the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge). Open up drilling in continental shelf, drill in North Dakota, drill in Oklahoma and Texas.' "

On Wednesday, with President Barack Obama traveling to oil and gas production fields on federal lands, Crossroads GPS, a nonprofit arm of a super PAC supporting GOP candidates, released a new ad to air in the same states that Mr. Obama was visiting. It accused Mr. Obama of restricting oil development in America and concludes "bad energy policies mean energy prices we can't afford."

The late 1980s and 1990s show exactly how domestic drilling is not related to gas prices.

Seasonally adjusted U.S. oil production dropped steadily from February 1986 until three years ago. But starting in March 1986, inflation-adjusted gas prices fell below the $2-a-gallon mark and stayed there for most of the rest of the 1980s and 1990s. Production between 1986 and 1999 dropped by nearly O.-third. If the drill-now theory were correct, prices should have soared. Instead they went down by nearly a dollar.

The AP analysis used Energy Department figures for regular unleaded gas prices adjusted for inflation to 2012 dollars, oil production and oil demand. The figures go back to January 1976, the earliest the Energy Department keeps figures on unleaded gas prices. Phil Hanser, an economist and statistician at the energy consulting firm The Brattle Group; University of South Carolina statistics professor John Grego; New York University statistics professor Edward Melnick and David Peterson, a retired Duke University statistics professor, looked at the analysis, ran their own calculations, including several complicated formulas, and came to the same conclusion.

When U.S. production goes up, the price of gas "is certainly not going down," Mr. Melnick said. "The data does not suggest that whatsoever."

The calculations "help make the point that U.S. production and demand have little to do with the price of gasoline in the U.S., and lend support to the notion that there is not a great deal we in the U.S., acting alone, can do to affect the price of gasoline," Mr. Peterson wrote in an email. He pointed out that Energy Department figures show that gas prices in the U.S. seem to rise and fall similarly to gas prices in Europe, showing that it has little to do with American drilling.

And that's the key. It's a world market, economists say.

Unlike natural gas or electricity, the United States alone does not have the power to change the supply-and-demand equation in the world oil market, said Christopher Knittel, a professor of energy economics at MIT. American oil production is about 11 percent of the world's output, so even if the U.S. were to increase its oil production by 50 percent -- that is more than drilling in the Arctic, increased public-lands and offshore drilling, and the Canadian pipeline would provide -- it would at most cut gas prices by 10 percent.

"There are not many markets where the United States can't impose its will on market outcomes," Mr. Knittel said. "This is O. we can't, and it's hard for the average American to understand that and it's easy for politicians to feed off that."

If drilling activity rises around the globe for a sustained period of time, gasoline prices can fall as that new supply eventually finds its way to market, but the U.S. can't do it alone, oil analysts say.

Politicians -- especially those in the party that's not occupying the White House -- have long harped on high gas prices when expedient. Then-Sen. Barack Obama said in 2008, when he was running for president, that "here in Ohio, you're paying nearly $3.70 a gallon for gas, 2 1/2 times what it cost when George Bush took office."

But Mr. Obama, who has seen gas prices go up 73 percent since he took office, was singing a different tune last week in his weekly radio address: "The truth is: The price of gas depends on a lot of factors that are often beyond our control. Unrest in the Middle East can tighten global oil supply. Growing nations like China or India adding cars to the road increases demand. But O. thing we should control is fraud and manipulation that can cause prices to spike even further."

The political party of the president doesn't seem to matter to the price at the pump either. Since 1976, the average monthly gas price, adjusted for inflation, during Democratic presidencies has been $2.25; under Republicans it's been $2.34. Mr. Obama had the steepest monthly average at $3.05 and Bill Clinton the cheapest at $1.68.

When Mr. Bush and running mate Dick Cheney campaigned in 2000, they argued that as oil executives they could get oil prices down, with Mr. Bush saying, "I would work with our friends in OPEC to convince them to open up the spigot, to increase the supply."

Yet it was during the last few months of Mr. Bush's term in 2008 that gas prices hit their highest: $4.27 when adjusted for inflation.

Copyright 2012 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


First published on March 25, 2012 at 12:00 am

Read more: http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/12085/1219348-84.stm#ixzz1...

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T.K.

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I'll add Speculators to the list of reasons.

"A speculator purchasing vast futures at higher than the current market price can cause oil producers to horde their commodity in the hopes they'll be able to sell it later on at the future price. This drives prices up in reality -- both future and present prices -- due to the decreased amount of oil currently available on the market"

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K.A.

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I cant answer your question but I just read this the other day and thought I would share................
Wine - now cheaper than gas. Drink. Dont drive!

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W.K.

answers from New York on

Makes me want to walk or bike every where because of it, our stations around here are at 4.02 now. If I lived in a place were I could I would walk or bike to my office which is just two miles away. I waste more gas because of the short trip its horrible!

Went to the car show this past week and I so want to get an electric car! Plug in and for under $5 Ill get over 100 miles on O. charge! We have solar panels on our house so it may even be less then $5

Gas prices are just proof of greedy people milking us all.

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J.W.

answers from St. Louis on

There are so many variables that come into play and each situation is different. Like a couple years ago it really was the futures market driving it. The fluctuations only rose and fell with the futures market, not the spot price, not current events.

Ours have had a peak and gone down last week. Not to say they won't go up again.

I haven't pulled data on the recent rise. I believe it has to do with current events, or supply, mixed with a bit of what the market will bear.

Oil is very inelastic in demand. In other words regardless of price you must buy so much of it. It takes huge (hugs really? I am going to grab some more coffee) increases in price for us to modify demand and even then there is only so much waste and it isn't enough to significantly change demand. So pretty much price change is all supply driven.

So if they XL pipeline had been approved you would have seen around a 10 cent drop in gas prices because it would show an increase in supply without major costs. Now it means nothing because there are costs in shipping it to China to refine and chances are it will stay there and won't effect the global market.

Anyway I feel like I am rambling but there really is any number of reasons that drive it. I did find it funny that no matter how much OPEC pulled back supply those prices kept dropping after Congress went after the futures market. I find it funny because it clearly illustrated that supply is not the only player in oil prices anymore, the market itself drives it more.

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answers from Dallas on

Because, they can.

$$$$$$

That's why.

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S.S.

answers from Cincinnati on

Gas prices have gone down around here (thank God!) It was about $4.07 two weeks ago and now is at $3.88. We live in a very small community with no real buissness so everyone has to drive about a half an hour to get to jobs, we live a half an hour to alot of different town and no O. works in the same town as my hubby so carpooling is not an option. And living in a small town we have no public transportation. So I aways laugh at people who say driving a car is an OPTION. Luckliy our car gets pretty good das milage.

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C.O.

answers from Washington DC on

Well, it's called supply and demand. Simple as that. Not just the supply of OIL but GASOLINE...there are 47 different required fuel mixes, then they have to make it regular, premium, etc. and they have to switch REFINERIES...and because we have people who want "special" considerations...if the refineries could just make 3 grades of gas? Gas would probably drop by a .25cents (not exact but close).

People drive more in the summer...so prices go up.

We have a gas station here that is charging $4.49 for a gallon of gas....people are stupid enough to pay it. Even though - this just proves how stupid people are - the station across the street? $4.11....yeah...that stupid....and these are the same people that vote...pretty freaking sad.

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P.K.

answers from New York on

I wish I knew. All I know is we are now paying $4.25 a gallon!!!!! I live in a
town that does not even have sidewalks let alone stores. A car is an
absolute necessity. No public transportation. When I go out I make a list
and I start from the furthest point and work my way home. Funny thing is
my monthly gas bill is less because I refuse to drive if I do not have to. When it is cheaper I will say, Oh let me just run out to do whatever. Not now. If you figure it out, please let me know.

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