What is you opinion of the citations(tickets) that are being giving out to the students that act out during school? I am alot older and I'm from the old school and my personal opinion is that the child should be accountable for his own actions and the parents should not pay for thier childs way out of trouble.
Thanks,
Y.M
We went before the judge for my 2 step-sons playing hookie together from school and they were fined $250 each which I as a parent have to pay and I request for these boys to have to do community services so they can learn by thier mistakes. The judge say no to it and continue to tell me that I need to go do the paperwork and pay the fine. I asked the judge if I can speak and she said yes. I told her that I love my parents more than anything on this earth and you know why and she said,Why? I said because if I acted out my father or mother spanked me and made me act right and that I have all the respect for my principl at all of my schools I attended specially the High school and I asked her if she knows why and she said , Why? I said, Because I only played hookie one time and it was my senior year and he found out and spanked my bottom . I grew up in the old school were schools really dicipline the children when they acted out and parents were able to discipline the kids at home without the public schools getting involved and telling our children if your parents spank you come to us and we will call the CPS. Don't get me wrong, I do not believe in being abusive to the kids but I do believe in spanking them on thier bottom as I got when I was young. Lord Help us all ! I feel for the Teachers and Principles and Parents ! Just like the bible says at the end of time the children will be disrepectful to thier parents. The judge looked at my two boys and told them that your parents can spank you when your bad and informed them that there is no law saying other wise ! I still feel that it is nothing but away for our schools and courts to get money. The day I was there in court with my step sons there were about 11 kids waiting to see the judge and the cheapest fine was about $250. We need to stop paying fines and take control and make these children accountable for thier actions. Even the lord my father says not to spare the rod on those acting bad. Thank you Dad and Mom for everything you taught and how such wonderful parents you were to bring me up repectful and you did a Wonderful job on all of us ! I was never in trouble with the law and only one time in trouble with the school as I already told you about. I respected my parents and my school officals ! I turned out very well ! I have an excellent high paying job and I'm a very loving and caring person and you can ask anyone that knows me that I would give the shirt off my back if I had too. I just want our kids to learn as we did back in our old school days. I will pray for all of the teachers and principles and parents that the lord be with everyone because what I hear that goes on in schools they need the prayers and the help of all parents !!! I want to Thank everyone that cared and e-mailed me a response Thanks,YM
Although I do agree with you - unfortunately there are a lot of parents out there that just don't care and don't get involved in their kids lives UNLESS they are hit in the pocketbook. If you really want to teach your child a lesson - make them pay you back for the citations.
I agree with you when kids act up they are the ones who should pay the price. I have 1 grandson and he got into a fight at school who was ,as they say was ragging on him. Poor excuse if you ask me. He should have to work to pay and be made sure he does pay his parents back for any money this costs them
I am a public school teacher. I agree that students SHOULD be held accountable for their actions in school, but unfortunately, a lot of parents today make excuses for their children and threaten to sue the school if their child receives punishment for wrongdoing. By issuing tickets, I think the hope is that it will become uncomfortable for the parents and they will in turn tell their kid to straighten up and follow the rules. If a student does get a ticket, I think the parents should make the child either pay for the ticket, or do community service to work it off. Again, many parents just pay off the ticket themselves and the child receives no punishment, and therefore continues to misbehave in school. If this cycle continues, they often end up in alternative school. I wish parents could see that if they forced their children to behave appropriately in school, and punished them if they didn't, they would be helping them to learn the difference between right and wrong and that would help them to grow into productive citizens.
Meaning no disrespect in the least...
Parents now a days (yeah I know that sounds old) are too busy for their children. They have two jobs and hobbies and another life or their divorced...and the kids are raising themselves.
Giving citations in schools is their last ditch effort for the system to say, "Hello? We didn't give birth to them and I didn't take them on to raise".
The schools can only handle so much...and maybe by fining the parents for not handling their part at home, some of the parents will stop being so self centered and start paying attention more to their kids.
on a side: My son got a citation for not attending class. I had to go to court. THREE TIMES. Once to protest. Second to show proof and the last for dismissal. It was the schools record keeping (or lack thereof). I also had to go when my 18 yr old Senior had asked a teacher and the aassistant principal to do something about a kid that had been harassing him and others for about 4 years and no one would do anything about it because his dad was on the school board. My son kicked him in the balls and punched him. The entire lunchroom stood in applause. (NO I don't condone violence...but I bet that kid doesn't mess with anyone else again and yeah...he got a citation but he was 18...so the citation went to him and not me...and the courts wouldn't uphold it)
You HAVE to be proactive in your kids life. The citations are a way of making sure you are.
Well I didn't know such thing existed. I would have to say I have mixed feelings. I'm like you I am from the old school too. I think that the kids should have to pay for their punishment. In this case, the parents should not be paying the fine, the kids would. If things were now like they were when I was in school then we wouldn't have near the problems as we do now. The children need punishment in school, (and I'm not talking being sent to detention, Because now days most of them get away with more than they should and don't receive punishment. They actually think it is cool cause it gets them out of class. In my days my parents as well as most others that I knew believed if you got punished in school then you got double at home. I don't think citations are the way to go but they need a punishment system set that would really make these kids think about what they are doing.
I agree that ultimately a child is responsible for his/her actions and should have to face the consequences that come with that. I think our society today does not accomodate that philosophy unfortunately and our kids are being taught that they are entitled to everything without having to suffer through the consequences they should.
I agree with you. Keep on truckin', Mama!
A little about me:
I am a 45 year old mother with teens in public school system who worries and prays daily for their safety and that they will be an example to others.
Hi Yolonda, I work in a High school, and everyday I see students walking the hall not in their classroom in groups the same ones over and over. The law states that the teacher is accountable to teach students so many hours a year with no time wasted.
The kids have gotten so out of hand that teachers would rather let them stay out of class. I am a 52 year old paraprofessional (teacher assitance) and I see so much, times have really chanaged since you and I have been in school.
I agree that the child should pay for their own actions, but if you wroked in the school system and see how these students act, Oh My God, some are even having sex in school. Yes sex.
I strongly believe a good school depends on who is over the school. But now days they don't have much to say because parents will go over their heads to the Super. office and what they have set for a student, will be changed by a phone call to the Super. and he calls the school and things are changed.
ISS and AC is a joke to them. Most of them love going to ISS or AC.
I was just saying the other day that something needs to be done, teachers are getting to the point of not wanting to deal with it. Some are doing what is asked of them, but the ones that don't makes it hard for the teachers who do do something.
I think this would help parents to be more aware of what their child is doing. I think citiation warnings should be given when a student is not in class when they are at school. Not just for when they are acting up or have missed being in school for over 3 days.
My daughter got in trouble for cursing, and we don't do this in my house, I wanted to send her to alterntive school, just to prove to her she can't just act out at school.
Where I am from we had a place where you could send your child if she wasn't doing what was asked of her or if she was getting in trouble at school call Star. I was looking for a place like that. They don't have it here.I want to know so I can try everything to keep her focus in the right direction.I stay on it most of the time looking at her grades, that also helps you to talk with the teachers to see if they are doing what they suppose to be doing in class.
The students are loud, girls scream to the top of their voice like they are outside, go through the halls cursing no respect for adults. Even with all that I still want to become a teacher but in elementary.
I have seen all age group, by the time my daughter reach high school they will be taking four of ever subject. Some are already doing it, and I believe next year they will start some subjects. It will get harder for them.
I try to tell my daughter for a good education you can't play around. School is like a job you don't work you do not get paid. You do not study you fail. you fail do not graduate, do not graduate, no good paying job, no place to live and no food, not staying here. 18 no college on your own.
I know it's hard but as long as my child is in my house I am responsable for her, the way she acts, etc. So I would rather know and not know. Hopefully this helps with your questions. W.
