B.H. asks from Detroit, MI on December 15, 2010
20 Percent Pay Cut!! Where Do I Go from Here?
It's official that I will recieve a 20% decrease in my pay staring Friday. I believe this is due to bad union representation and alot of employees not being informed of the consquences of not accepting a pay decrease of %15 percent last time a contract was offered. People did not accept the last contract and voted it down out of frustation of not having a pay increase or contract in 5 years and because of being hurt fiancially by layoffs lasting weeks at a time.
My issue now is how in the world to I try to supplement my lost income while still working 40 hours per week outside the home all while being around around to raise my boys?
Right now I feel used because it is clear that my employer has come out ahead in this deal. I would feel better if I had friday furlows days in leiu of a pay decrease. At least then I could make good use of the time at home. But as it is now I'll still be working straight time with this pay decrease. I'm afraid at this rate I will be at the same place I was 12 years ago when i started this job. I really want to leave right now but no place to go. I 'm thinking about starting a part-time business and maybe making up the loss that way.
I hope things get better soon but right now I'm trying to deal with this setbact and don't know how. Anyone experience this?
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So What Happened?™
I'm trying hard not to be depressed and take this an an opportunity to better handle my money. Maybe by knowing I have less coming in I can learn to spend my money wisely and actually come out ahead? I'm trying to look at this situation in this way to keep my sanity and to keep pushing forward. But, then I wonder why I did not try to feel this way before this crisis.
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G.B. answers from Detroit on December 16, 2010
M.M. answers from Dallas on December 15, 2010
Like Denise said, you can cut back spending to make it up instead of trying to earn it. I know it is frustrating but at least you have a job.
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D.P. answers from Pittsburgh on December 15, 2010
People all over are experiencing this type of cut back. My hubby's yearly bonus was 1/10th this year of what it has been--and now it will stay like that indefinitely.
My best advice to ANYONE having to adjust to a decreased income is always Dave Ramsay and the Total Money Makeover. Buy the book. Seriously.
I think it is easier to decrease your spending by 20% than to try to make it up with another job/business.
As for the question to stay or leave, only you can answer that. But I do know this...it's easier to find a job while you're working than when you're not. If I was in your shoes, I'd at least start looking.
Sorry you're going through this--so many are right there with you.
Best of luck!
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K.I. answers from Seattle on December 15, 2010
My hubby works in the Newspaper industry (which is DYING by the way) and he took a 30% pay cut almost 2 years ago + he has had to take 3 weeks unpaid work furlough every summer since then! Talk about sucky!
It's hard. You have to cut back. 'Waste not-Want not' has become our family motto!
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C.O. answers from Washington DC on December 15, 2010
B.:
I can truly sympathize with you and your pay cut.
However, this is unions for you. The money and power go the bosses and the union chiefs - the employees that they are supposed to protect get the short end of the stick.
As to the burden - this is hard and will probably sound rude but live to learn within your means. If you knew a year in advance that this would be happening - EVEN PROBABLY - you should've started cutting back then - paying off all you could so that when the pay cut hit - you would be OKAY. No, it isn't easy - but it's life. There are people BEGGING for jobs - so be thankful that you have it.
If you have items that you can sell around the house - sell them on craigslist and ebay. you would be surprised at what you don't need. I've been purging my home for a while now - donating and selling on craigslist and ebay. In the last 4 months, I've made (sold) $750.
Bottom line - cut back. Use coupons. Make a menu for the week and stick to it. You will be surprised at what you can live without. Save money by not having the paper EVERY day - only on Sunday's so you can get the coupons. You are at work so you don't need to spend the extra money on the movie channels. Rent what you want to watch for $1 via Red Box.
Make sure you have a list for errands. Do the errands in order so you don't run all over town zig-zagging, etc.
If you have a grocery store that does online ordering - DO IT!!! You will save a fortune in impulse buying! If there is a grocery store that does delivery - take advantage of that as well. You save a boatload of money - and yes, you can use coupons!!! Last year - I forgot to turn my coupons in for my Thanksgiving order - when I did my next order, I turned them in after I paid. For Christmas? My $200 bill was only $19.20 from all the coupons I had had. No kidding.
If you have a nasty attitude about it - nothing will change. However, if you maintain a positive attitude, don't panic and do a mental list of all you don't need - you can save money, get some money in the door and not notice the pay cut. Be happy you have a job. Do your best while you are there - don't slack because you have a pay cut and you just might get noticed and rewarded.
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C.S. answers from Milwaukee on December 15, 2010
I thought of another thing that may help! Reduce your withholdings on your w-4-you're making less, as long as it's not extreme you shouldn't have to end up paying out too.
I was laid off a year ago when I was 6 mo pregnant. As you can imagine I didn't have much luck finding a new job very quickly. My husband was also not working since he is in the construction business and we all know how well that field is doing currently.
We ended up making some extreme choices to get by-but in hindsight we learned a great deal and came out stronger.
I don't know what state benefits are like in MI, but in WI because of our family size (4) and our income, (his/none, mine/UC), we qualified for state help. We didn't want too-but we had babies too feed so it was time to set pride aside. We rec'd foodshare, (foodstamps), since I was pregnant we also recieved WIC and since we had no insurance qualified for state insurance. This all at least allowed us to survive month to month. We also had a lot of help from family.
My point is that since your family dynamic hasn't changed, but your pay has-you might qualify for a little help from the state until you can figure things out, get a different job, etc.
Also-it's the perfect time to negotiate with your creditors and oddly our bank let us refinance our house AFTER I lost my job. That saved us about $500/mo.
The other obvious things you have already thought of like....coupons, eating out less, etc..all help too.
It sucks-but at the same time it works out too. :)
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H.X. answers from Los Angeles on December 15, 2010
Not yet, but this is likely going to be a reality for many. A 20% pay cut is on the horizon for us too. I won't be happy about it but the money that we get is from billing Medicare and since the gov't is plumb out of money and revenues are going to be down for the foreseeable future, something has to give. The truth of the matter is that for the working man (or woman), we will be seeing a decrease in the standard of living. Not just for a few years, but likely for our life time, and for our children and maybe even their children.... I'm not just talking about the bad economy, we have an energy crisis in the foreseeable future, and what is happening to our dollar is beyond repair. The government printing money is a tax on the people because inflation is a hidden tax. There is no mystery to inflation. Inflation = expanding the monetary system which is what we do when we print money. So wither by pay cut or inflation or both, a lower standard of living is going to be a reality in the West. You are not alone. Don't know what line of work, company, or arm of the government you work. So it is impossible for me to know if you are being unfairly treated or if your salary simply could not be sustained in the new economy. But I'm sure it sucks big time. The best advice I can give you is find what you can be grateful for because it can always be worse. And sadly, I think it is going to get a lot worse for Americans before it gets better. If you can feed, cloth, and shelter your family, you have something to be grateful for. Not that you shouldn't hope or strive for better. Just saying, "times they are a changing" and you still likely have it a lot better than others in this world. We are simply headed for a lower standard of living in this country. You are feeling it. As I've been made aware of the things that have weakened our nation (and the west in general), I have come to accept that money is going to be tight. So I'm not so sad about it and am choosing to focus more on family, God, and the simple things, while letting go some of my material aspirations (like owning a home). I am at peace with it and wish the same for you.
(just saw that you are from Detroit, one of the most depressed cities in the nation. You are lucky to have a job, and I'd consider relocating)
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B.B. answers from New York on December 15, 2010
Same exact thing happened to me about 2 years ago. 20% decrease in salary, but still required to work a 40 hour week. It totally sucked, and was hard for a while, but we made it through. We didn't save as much as we normally did, and went w/o some things for a while. I have to say, after a few months, we got used to it and it was OK.
You will be OK, it will just take some adjusting.
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R.. answers from Chattanooga on December 15, 2010
I got laid off from my job 2 months ago. We needed that extra income, and without it we weren't able to make ends meet... so we had to move in with my in-laws. It sucked, but at least we aren't on the street! The good news is, that after we moved hubby got a better job than the last one he had, so now with his income and my in-laws letting us stay with them, I am going to be starting school instead of another job... hopefully to have a better chance in the future. :)
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R.A. answers from Detroit on December 16, 2010
I would take a serious look at your finances. Find out where you can cut; where you do your shopping (kohls vs macy's meijer vs kroger, etc) use coupons, change your cell phone plan, change your cable service and/or plan, etc. I did all of these things and it has made a big difference. Also start a budget and stick to it. We use an envelope system. We have envelopes for gas, groceries, car insurance, car repairs, prescriptions, and fun money. we have a set amount that we put in each one every payday. Once the money is gone (like in the fun envelope) then we are done until the next pay. We don't borrow from the other envelopes, so when car insurance is due, we have the right amount and don't need to pull from savings. Try it, it has worked wonders for us. We ended up able to put money into savings this way, and we had never planned on that. good luck
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