J.S. asks from Solana Beach, CA on August 06, 2009
13 Month Old with Horrible Tantrums - Worse Since He Started Daycare
My son has always been strong willed. If he doesn't want to do something he refuses to do it - ever since he was a few months old. We started him in day care, part-time twice a week, three weeks ago. Since he has gone, when he does not get his way or is made to do something, like sit in his high chair, he has a horrible temper tantrum. Horrible like red faced, crying, screaming, arched back, rolling on the floor, inconsolable. This goes on for 20 minutes until he suddenly snaps out of it. We've done everything possible when he gets like this - take him outside for different scenery, offer him toys or food or milk/water, let him roll on the ground.. Nothing works. It seems really unusual and I can't imagine why he would get THAT upset for THAT long. Someone suggested a behavioralist. Any suggestions?
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C.K. answers from Santa Barbara on August 07, 2009
Has his sleep habits changed since entering daycare? Like a different nap schedule? I've read that if kids aer not getting adaquate sleep, their mood/demeanor can drastically change, increasing tantrums and crankiness. Maybe you can talk to daycare about his naps and then try to adjust bedtime/naptime to get him more rest.
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S.F. answers from Reno on August 07, 2009
My youngest (now 11) used to have massive temper tantrums, throwing himself backwards onto the floor (didn't matter what kind of floor). We simply put him on the floor in his room, surrounded him with pillows, and walked away. Of course, we'd check up on him every minute or so, but we didn't want him to ever think that that kind of tantrum would get him attention. He would do this in daycare, too, and the daycare provider did pretty much the same thing.
Once my angel figured out that no one was interested, it wasn't nearly as much fun, and the behavior stopped.
Good luck!
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M.C. answers from Honolulu on August 07, 2009
Congratulations on your son hitting a developmental milestone!! He knows what he wants but does not have the tools to communicate his wants, or he is powerless to make sure that he gets what he wants. Have you tried teaching him sign language?? It is incredibly easy and there are lots and lots of books available in the library even! Just start by working on signs for the things that set him off - mealtime signs like "eat" "milk" are good ones to start with. Once he knows these, you can teach him one more, and another and another. My daughter used to "ask" me to teach her signs for things she wanted to talk about once she got the hang of signing. When your son can start the conversation, he will feel so much more empowered and he will feel less out of control. He will have a way of telling you what he needs without slamming his head against the floor - better for everyone!
Also, if you know what he wants, but he cannot have it, make sure that HE KNOWS that you know what he wants - "I know you want to ride on the motorcycle but it is very dangerous. You can ride on your tricycle today and I will push you to go fast!" or something like that. At least he feels validated.
Also, you might pick up the book "Raising your Spirited Child" by Mary Sheedy Kurcinka. He is a bit young, but this book has been a good reference for me with my first daughter. She is now seven and still strong willed (you can't beat that out of them!!!) but We have learned some techniques to deal with her extreme-ness as she grows up.
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J.L. answers from San Diego on August 07, 2009
Hi J., I'm not sure you need to consult a behavioralist, I see a couple things in your request that may be part of the problem, the first thing i saw was your child refusing, in my opinion as a mom and a daycare provider, children should never be allowed to refuse to obey, by letting him refuse you are giving him power over you that he is not suppost to have, the other thing is you mentione when he throws his tatrums you offer him food, toys, different scenery, you are offering him good things for bad behavior. you asked why he is doing this? well one reason is because he can, there seems to be no discipline and no repercutions for his disobedience. In doubt he is getting this from daycare because myself and other providers I personally know do not tollerate tatrums. I had a 13 month old here in my daycare who threw tatrums, because his parents ignored his bad behavior, well each time you did here I picked him up and put him in his playpen. My hisband and I had a no tatrum policy with bour own kids, and I can honestly say out of 3 kids we had no tatrums. Discipline starts from day one and changes as they get older, this way there is no tatrums, no disobedient and out of control children. My kids are grown now, so we have the fruits of our labor before us that tells us we did the right thing with our kids. Love him, be patient with him, but get control and start discipling and create a no tatrum policy in your home. You'll be happy you did later. J.
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S.H. answers from Honolulu on August 06, 2009
All I know is... some children and even adults... see "red" when they are in the midst of an upset.
And its not like a conscious tantrum... where they know what is going on.
My Husband's brother... when he was a kid, when he was mad/upset... he'd get in a real tizzy, like you describe. It goes beyond the typical normal tantrum. His brother, would literally be like not even in the "present"....but just so INTO his tantrum that he didn't even know what was around him or going on. It was like he was dis-connected. His Mom, would need to just pick him up, and put him in a cold shower to sorta "shock" him out of it. And, his brother would then come back around, to the "now."
But now as an adult, well his brother is not like this. And he's totally normal. A real nice guy genuinely. They don't know why he was like that as a child. He's not a monster or anything....but just when upset... it was like an uncontrolled domino effect and he'd just go off on this tangent... of 'seeing red' as my Hubby describes it. Sometimes his brother didn't even really believe how he got when in a tantrum/upset... so his Mom actually videoed him in the midst of one. It was like how the "Hulk" becomes hulk.
I don't know what to tell you... but that, well, my Hubby's brother was like that. Of course that was in an older generation, not currently, where maybe now they know just what the problem was/is.
Perhaps... he should not be in daycare right now and is not ready. A child this age, CANNOT do things at will completely yet... nor be expected to sit still for a long time...even 10 minutes is a lot for a mere 1 year old.
Or, is it possible that something at the Daycare is just inappropriate or not suiting him very well? You should investigate that possibility. He does not seem happy, or he is not ready for "structured" activity or "school." It can be too stressful for many kids, when they are not yet ready.
It could simply be, that he is so irked...by all the things at Daycare, and he can't explain it.
I certainly hope the Daycare providers are telling you what they do with your Son when he acts this way???
All the best, just some thoughts and random ideas,
Susan
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C.K. answers from Santa Barbara on August 07, 2009
Has his sleep habits changed since entering daycare? Like a different nap schedule? I've read that if kids aer not getting adaquate sleep, their mood/demeanor can drastically change, increasing tantrums and crankiness. Maybe you can talk to daycare about his naps and then try to adjust bedtime/naptime to get him more rest.
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A.F. answers from San Diego on August 06, 2009
I don't think you need a behavioralist. I think he's just growing up, testing you, seeing what he can get away with, and is probably a bit upset about being in daycare. He's a normal little boy. Our son did the same thing for a bit when he entered daycare part-time. We gently insisted he do what we asked, regardless of his resistance. Then, we just rode it out because it didn't last very long.
If it lasts longer than you're comfortable I would look for some more specific advice. I don't know what books you've read, but the Baby Whisperer has some great advice. There is a book written just for toddlers and it helped us a lot with issues similar to this.
Sorry I don't have a specific answer for you, but I hope I was helpful.
Good luck!
~A.
G.B. answers from Los Angeles on August 07, 2009
Dear J.,
As a parent coach, I help parents deal with these types of issues all the time. I know how difficult it can be. Below is a link to an article I wrote that may be of some help to you. If I can be of any further assistance, feel free to contact me.
http://www.gilabrown.com/GB/Blog/Entries/2009/6/11_Attack...
Be well,
G. Brown, M.A.
Child Development Specialist & Parent Educator
V.M. answers from Los Angeles on August 07, 2009
you need a specialist who will not be looking for what you are doing "wrong" to make him like that. you need the one who will address the issue directly w/o major life style adjustment. i'm biased, but for what it worth - it is homeopathy. make sure your homeopath has CCH credentials
Good Luck
V.
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