M.H. asks from Springfield, VA on September 25, 2008
Trouble Maker at School, Help!
My son is 3.5 years old and has just started becoming the trouble maker at his pre-school. He is not listening to his teachers, being defiant and talking back (by saying "no" a lot). He is spending a lot of time in time out and I'm getting really worried. Yes, he has always exhibited some of this behavior at home and we too have been using time outs and taking away privledges consistantly. I try to talk to him to find out why he is acting out, but he won't tell me anything. I try to always talk to him before punishing him because I would love to find out the root of the problem, but he has yet to tell me anything. The problem is that no matter what we do, even taking away TV, it doesn't phase him for long. He gets really upset and throws a fit, but when we don't give in, he gets over it and forgets about it. He knows if he acts out in school there will be no TV when he gets home, but he doesn't seem to care. He still tries to get it out of us, but gets over it quickly when we don't give in. It justs seems like nothing affects him enough to get him to stop. The teachers are being very supportive and say this is common behavior, but I would love to help them out by getting it to stop! He has a 4 week old baby sister that he adores. I know that can cause problems, but he tells me nothing is wrong and that he loves his sister. He doesn't get jealous of her that we can see and he spends his time trying to take care of her. I would love to say that she could still be the reason for this, but it started before she was born and my gut tells me that she has nothing to do with it. I'm looking not only for advice, but some insight and some "I have been there" support. Thanks!
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Thank you all! I knew I wouldn't be alone, it is just good to read it! I forgot to mention that we had tried the reward system first by telling him if he had a good day we would go to the park at night. He LOVES the park and got so excited, but he still had a bad day at school and when he got in the car he asked "are we going to the park?" He knew the answer would be no, but he acted out anyway. We are going to try a much different approach now. My son is one who hates when we talk about what he should do and shoudn't do all the time. We are going to stop talking about school all together and just correct whatever behavior occurs at home. We will try this for awhile and I will let you know how it works out!
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N.B. answers from Las Vegas on September 26, 2008
I have found that instead of taking things away, my daughter was rewarded for her good behavior. She had to "earn" her toys. I want to instil in her that hard work pays off. On a side note, 40 Carrots on Tuttle has a talk coming up on Octover 7th. I always find their talks very informative and helpful and plan to attend that one as well. I also know Diane Weiss who works there and can do consultations. They have a sliding scale for payment. She is great!!
Good luck.
N.
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K.C. answers from Fort Myers on September 26, 2008
M.
I don't think you will get to the root of the problem becasue he may not know why he feels this way. I have been there. I have a 3 1/5 year old too and has been exhibiting this since he was 1. He is just my head strong child. He does not respond well to conflict. I have learned to give him choices and asked his teacher to as well when ever possible. Sometimes one of the choices is to go to time out and he chooses to do the right thing. I don't want to sugar coat it, we do have battles but he is learning and it has greatly improved. When he does have an incident I insist on him apologizing to everyone involved. He needs to understand that what he does effects others.
I believe you when you say it isn't your daughter. My son is a very loving compassionate child. He just wants to be in control and make his own decisions. I feel this behavior, although extremely upseting now, will make him stronger and more confident later if channeled in the right direction. He has a brother 11, and sister 9 and they never acted like this. However they have difficulty standing up for themselves. So hang in there. Be consistant. Keep talking to him explaining why it is important to make the right choices.
J.F. answers from Tampa on September 26, 2008
I wish every parent could give their kids a fish oil capsule every day along with a multi vitamin. Fish oil is hugely helpful because lots of kids are hyperactive, have ADD and are unfocused and disruptive because they are chasing nutrition they are not getting in their food. Most know our food is depleted of nutrients the body needs.
Fish oil softgels for kids can be purchased at a health food store. They are reasonably priced and very helpful for the kids. These children just can't help themselves and we need to help them.
N.B. answers from Las Vegas on September 26, 2008
I have found that instead of taking things away, my daughter was rewarded for her good behavior. She had to "earn" her toys. I want to instil in her that hard work pays off. On a side note, 40 Carrots on Tuttle has a talk coming up on Octover 7th. I always find their talks very informative and helpful and plan to attend that one as well. I also know Diane Weiss who works there and can do consultations. They have a sliding scale for payment. She is great!!
Good luck.
N.
K.C. answers from Tampa on September 26, 2008
My son went through the same thing when his little sister was born( they are now 4 1/2 and almost 3). Since they are only 20 months apart, they bicker alot. But when my daughter was born, my son would constantly act out to try and get any kind of a reaction from us. And it wasnt that he didnt like his sister, b/c he adored her, but it was b/c he wasnt the "center of attantion" any more. I am sure you have heard that before, but dont blame yourself AT ALL. Its not that you arent paying attention to him or that you are to busy, its just sometimes hard to deal when somebody else is around. He is testing you and seeing what limits he can cross. An he will probably do it for a couple months. My son started to mellow out when she was about 10 months and he was kinda use to her. Good luck!!
S.N. answers from Tampa on September 26, 2008
His behavior is probably the result of having the 'beautiful baby girl on 8/28/08!!!!!!!!' It seems that these are the only 2 children you have, and he's been the center of attention for all of his 3.5 years. The exclamation marks were quoted because you seem to be really excited about the baby - your son I'm sure feels your excitement and may view this as a threat to him. Make sure your son gets as much attention as you and hubby can possibly give him and reassure him that he's loved just as much as before the new addition to the family.
S.M. answers from Tampa on September 26, 2008
I have the same problem but reversed. My 4 year old daughter is deffiant and strong willed with me and a quiet little angel at school. The key is to spend time with just him every day, even if it's 15 minutes a day. They crave our attnetion because they miss us. Also find out what he cares about THE MOST. My daughter likes me to "say the prayer and song" before she goes to sleep so I "threaten" her that I'll leave the room without "prayer and song". Of course, I always give her a kiss and tell her I love you no matter what. Sometimes even saying "I'm not going to look at you" or ignoring her until she stops works. I also changed my daughters time out spot from a corner in the kitchenette were we ussually hand out to a "hidden" corner in the formal dinning room where she's isolated and away from distractions/attention (per her pediatrician's advise). Communication is key for their understanding that there are consecuences for their actions. Sounds like you are doing that, so keep it up.
J.G. answers from Lakeland on September 26, 2008
I think it must be partly the age. My son turned 4 on 8/28... Good birthday ;~) anyway he too had displayed some of the same behavior. He seems to be testing everyone around him. Your story is the same as mine (with no new sibling) I have just con't the disipline and talked with his teachers and told them it is not acceptable to me and we have been taking action at home. I'll be interested to see your other responses. I do find he is worse when he doesn't get enough rest??? Stay strong, good luck. Your not alone....
J. G
J.C. answers from Fort Myers on September 26, 2008
M., I understand. I have a daughter who we like to say is "not compliant." Punishment just didn't work with her. I would recommend a book called, "Parenting is Heart Work," by Scott Turansky and Joanne Miller. It gives some great ways of getting to the heart of the matter with our kids. To find the best price on-line, check out http://www.dealoz.com.
Good luck,
J.
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