K.R. asks from Glen Head, NY on July 03, 2008
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My 17 month old daughter is still not sleeping through the night, and she is a terrible eater. I have tried numerous techniques to try to get her to sleep. Crying it out, the ferber method, ect....
The food issues are also frustrating. She does like foods that crunch, but to get this child to eat fruit, veggies or any meat product you can just for get about it.
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M.A. answers from Binghamton on July 06, 2008
My daughter has been the same way since birth! I have found that with her, the more you push the food issue the worse it becomes. I will put a plate with healthy choices in front of her and I let her explore- she loves to pick things apart but after she feels each thing she will usually eat some of it. If I tell her to eat something that is when she refuses. Try letting her explore and make it her choice to eat- maybe that will work for you. My daughter still doesn't eat a ton but she is a healthy and happy child. Don't force anything, she'll eat when sh'e hungry...
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A.C. answers from Albany on July 04, 2008
Will she eat mac and cheese? I make mine with Barilla Plus Elbows- it is whole grain pasta, but not whole wheat so my kids don't notice. I use the Kraft Classic Melts shredded cheese and make the mac and cheese according to the instructions. Then I sneak in a few tablespoons of pureed butternut squash or cauliflower and finely shredded ham. It is a pretty well rounded meal and they love it.
H.B. answers from New York on July 04, 2008
We tried the CIO method when my son was about 9 months old and he has been sleeping through the night ever since. But every time he gets sick or if something happens to throw off his schedule we have to do it all over again. He doesn't cry as long as he use to (it may only take ten minutes now) but when we first did it he cried for almost an hour and then feel asleep and woke up 12 hours later. It was so hard but he really needed the sleep and so did we. I know you mentioned you tried this already but I know I gave in some times and had to start all over. As for the food issues I just want you to know that i also have a picky toddler who is very selective on what he eats. He loves fruit, rice, pasta, yogurt and ceareal But he refuses to eat meat and veggies. I get so despertae sometimes I give him stage 3 baby food. He loves it. But mostly I try to cook veggies and meat until they are very tender and then I put it in a chopper and make it very fine. i then mix it in with rice or pasta. I've been doing this for a few months and just recently I got him to eat ground meat (without chooping it) and small pieces of carrots. I remember when he was about 12 months old he went through a phase where he loved mixed vegetables and would eat them whole now I can't get gim to touch them. My doctor thinks it is just a phase and hopes it will resolve by his 2 yr old visit. I think i waited to long to introduce meat to my son (it was after his first birthday). I also give my son Pediasure on the days he doesn't eat well. I mix 4 ounces of Pediasure with 2 oz of milk and give it to him before bed. He loves it. But I try not to do this too often because he also needs to learn to eat what everyone else eats. Best of Luck!
E.M. answers from New York on July 03, 2008
Hi K.. I can't be much help in the eating department; my daughter is also pretty picky and I just offer her a wide variety of foods frequently. As far as the sleep goes though, I have had my share of struggles. When you say you've tried the Ferber and CIO, have you really done it to the letter? I have done it on and off half-heartedly myself, but it is so awful to hear your child cry. We did CIO when my DD was 10 months, and she started sleeping through the night and napping better. Just recently we did CIO again (my DD just turned 2). Due to some illnesses and travel, she had gotten into the habit of having us sit with her until she was asleep. She also had started waking up almost every night and needing us to stay with her for up to an hour until she could fall back asleep. I am expecting humber 2 in a month, so I really felt I had to nip it in the bud (after trying many other methods besides CIO). Anyway, we let her cry at bedtime for a few nights in a row, and from night one she has slept all night. It's been a week now and she still cries a little when I put her in the crib, but most nights it's just a minute or two. Both times we decided against Ferber because as you know, with a background in psychology, that intermittment reinforcement will only prolong the crying. It is a little reassuring for you, since you can go in there and not feel like you're totally abandoning her, but I think it just makes the baby more upset. We shut the door and don't go back. With all of this being said, I am well aware that every child is totally unique, and if you have already given these techniques an honest shot with no luck, you should ignore me entirely! I am just so impressed by how quickly and completely it worked, I had to share. And I also know that sleeping problems can make a mommy feel completely unhinged, so I sympathize with you. I also just finished my MA in Counseling so I had to jump in and say hey! Good luck to you.
C.R. answers from Syracuse on July 03, 2008
I do not want to alarm you but if it's types of food(like you said crunchy things)it maybe a sensory problem...talk to your ped and get her tested...the way I see it, if you get her tested and there is a problem you start to fix it and if you get her tested and there is no problem then you have eliminated one thing and move on to the next...I've had 2 of my 5 kids tested a receive services, it's really no big deal and a friend of mine just had her son tested for speech and found out that he has a sensory issue as well...she thought he was just being a picky toddler...you never know...don't worry, follow your gut...(and a sensory issue could roll over to sleep, the sheets to soft ....or it could be something as simple as 2 year molars reaking havoc on your life :) Best of luck!
S.M. answers from Buffalo on July 04, 2008
Pick up the book called On Becoming Babywise. It is amazing. I have used it for both of my children and it tells you how to get them on a schedule so that they are sleeping through the night. The author is Gary Ezzo MD. It talks about the sleep cycles of babies. It also talks about introducing food/solids to babies.
M.A. answers from Binghamton on July 06, 2008
My daughter has been the same way since birth! I have found that with her, the more you push the food issue the worse it becomes. I will put a plate with healthy choices in front of her and I let her explore- she loves to pick things apart but after she feels each thing she will usually eat some of it. If I tell her to eat something that is when she refuses. Try letting her explore and make it her choice to eat- maybe that will work for you. My daughter still doesn't eat a ton but she is a healthy and happy child. Don't force anything, she'll eat when sh'e hungry...
K.Z. answers from New York on July 03, 2008
Hi K.,
I have a 17 month old son and he's quite a challenge when it comes to eating, as well. Toddlers this age are starting to figure out what they like and don't like, and they tend to push mommy and daddy's button with food. Trust me - my little guy is great at it!
What I've done is give him a sample of something he doesn't like or recognize at the beginning of his meal. Usually it ends up on the floor, but he still gets it with the hope that one day he may try it. As far as getting your little girl to eat fruits and veggies, have you tried V8 juice? Or make her a fruit smoothie? V8 and avocados are the only veggies my son will regularly eat (sometimes he'll eat tomatoes and carrots, but it's rare), but at least I know he's getting some veggies. My son DOES NOT eat any meat. Nothing. And we've tried it all. So for his proteins, we give him cheese, peanut butter, eggs, hummus, beans, etc. at least once a day. And we're starting to disguise meat in his food, like finely slice ham into his mashed potatoes. He eats the mashed potatoes and doesn't even realize the meat was there!
With the sleep issue - is there something that may be bothering your daughter? Is she teething or is she hot in the summer weather? Rule out everything to see if there's something she's telling you that's bugging her. I would also try giving her a lovey - a special blanket or stuffed animal - for her bed. Something to comfort her in the middle of the night if she wakes up. My son sleeps with his "magic blanket" and an Elmo stuffed animal, and it's really helped him with sleeping through the night. Right now we're dealing with the hot and humid weather (the place we're temporarily living in doesn't have AC and it's warm in here!), so he's been waking up more in the night because he's uncomfortable and sweaty.
I wish you the best! Good luck!
J.S. answers from Albany on July 04, 2008
Please consider reading...Ellyn Satter's .."Child of Mine: Feeding with Love and Good Sense"
or ..."How to Get your Kid to Eat: But not too much"
As a Grammy I had used many of the methods you have employed. But watching my daughter with her now 2&1/2 yearold (my granddaughter) convinced me of the many errors and non-working methods I had used.
Ellen Satter's technique's are miraculous and make all the sense in the world. Children have an inborn awareness of what they need to eat, we so often cloak that ability by our own needs and beliefs, often leaving them to a life-time of not really listening to their bodies.
My granddaughter was never forced or cajoled to eat anything. A variety was put before her and she ate what she wanted. Somedays it would be just fruit other days she would home in on something else. Some meals she may have just barely touched but their was always a healthy snack provided a couple of hours later.
My granddaughter is a healthy little girl who loves to try new foods especially if grown-ups are eating it. She enjoys a wide variety of foods from vegetable sushi , broccoli and to fruit, pasta and of course cookies. We provide the meals she decides what to eat.
Ellyn Sater's books are just wonderful for understanding how to make meal times happy and healthy. I don't own stock in them I'm just a Grammy who has learned to Mother all over again.
As for the Sleep issues. I sadly let my daughter 'cry it out'. I now realize what a poor and devastating technique that was/is. You might want to read.."The No-Cry sleep Solution" by Elizabeth Pantley.
I wish you the best. Mothering...is the toughest job in the world. Grandmothering is the Greatest job in the world!
J.
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