K.P. asks from Clarksville, TN on September 29, 2009
Possible Bad Relationship?: Could Use Some Advice.
I'm currently 7 weeks pregnant and not married to the baby's father. We've been dating for 9 months and don't want to get married just because we are having a child together. However, we both want this baby. In the past, we have fought over money issues. He's military, and I make minimum wage. He continuously tells me that I don't need to work for at least six months after the baby comes, only to turn around and tell me that he needs me to contribute more financially. My income is approx 900.00 a month, and my own personal bills are 600.00, not including gas for work or groceries, or emergency savings fund. (like for when i'll need new tires). He thinks I'm making bad financial decisions because I'm currently getting unemployment from my last job. He says this is holding me back from moving up in my job, but it's not. I'll be recieving a 1.00 raise in January, and he said 1.00 is not a big deal. But he doesn't want me to go to school to further my education because he would have to help pay for it and he says that you can get just about any job without a college degree. However, that unemployment also provides us with an extra 300 a month. When we argue.. which is often, he tells me that my plans and decisions are very stupid. that i don't need to save money for the baby, because we can "get everything for the baby for free", and when i asked him about how we were going to pay for my insurance after the baby (i have tenncare now, but it will run out after the baby) he said that he never cared if i had insurance before the baby so why should it be his concern if i have it after the baby since the baby will be covered by his military insurace. well that sort of hurt me, why wouldn't he care if the mother of his baby has insurance??? so i'm beginning to think that he's controlling and that if things aren't done his way, then it's the wrong way... i'm not the kind of woman to ever let someone talk down to me or disrespect me, but at the same time, i feel like the baby should be raised by it's mother and father, and there is absolutely no way i can afford a place on my own, so i feel stuck. i could move back with my parents until i make enough money for me and the baby, but i know they wouldn't like me living at home with them and a baby in a two bedroom house. any advice would be great. we've thought about counseling, but i worry that if we go, he will just get mad.. all he wants is for a third party to tell him that he's right and i should listen to him. but i'm not financially or morally irresponsible like he tries to make me believe i am. so if anyone knows of a good counselor or has been close to being in this kind of situation, please give your advice freely. thank you.
So What Happened?™
Well things have sort of completely changed. i'm still upset about the past, i guess i'm still holding a grudge, but i'm hoping it will go away in time. we started going to church together and spending a lot more time together. for some reason, it seems like this has helped so much. for the past couple weeks, i know- not long, he has been bringing me flowers to work just because. he tells me he loves me about 100 times a day. he won't go out with his friends unless i can come. he tries to eat lunch with me at work when neither of us have plans. he just had surgery, so he's not too mobile, but he still makes it a point to do laundry every day, and he even helped me paint the baby's room.... with one arm. so i'm hoping things stay like this. this is how it used to be. i asked him why he's treating me so different and he said all he knows is that he's completely in love with me and he was sorry for treating me bad, that he had doubts before and now he doesn't, and when that changed, so did his attitude.
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K.D. answers from Raleigh on September 30, 2009
He sounds like a narcissist. You might google it. I don't believe he will change. Sad but true. He always believes he is right and never sees anyone else's opinion. I believe I am married to one and regret it. Think about getting out of that situation, it will not get better.
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V.T. answers from Raleigh on September 30, 2009
I am so glad you have asked for advice. He will probably not be a good father and he may not even pay child support later on. He sounds like he needs someone else, a professional counselor, to talk to him. Try and find one -- I think a previous person told you how you could get one for free. If he won't go to the counselor then give him an ultimatum that gives you the upper hand. Please don't let him make you feel bad..... he is the one that should feel bad because he thinks that taxpayers should pay for his family.... that is immoral, especially if he has his own income!
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D.P. answers from Raleigh on September 30, 2009
K.,
There comes a sense of security and confidence knowing that when push comes to shove, you can provide for yourself and children without help from anyone else. Having said that, you have to go back to school and get a degree. Otherwise, you will be dependent on him and others like him your entire life. You can apply for need-based federal and state grants to attend community college or a university which will cover a good portion of your expenses. (My mom was a single mom with a high-school education- grants paid for a good part of my education.) It takes a little effort to fill out the paperwork, but you can do it. Some colleges also offer affordable health insurance while you are in school. To me, this seems like the only solution in this case. You have to empower yourself- don't let anyone else talk you down!
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A.C. answers from Charlotte on September 30, 2009
K.,
Let me get this straight, you two live together, and are having a baby but don't think getting married is a good idea. I think the very way you are living is a bad idea. You two are basically living like a married couple without the legal contract. I'm not sure how you are working full-time plus drawing unemployment that baffles me. At any rate - you two need to sit down and plan a budget. Babies cost money. I've never known anyone to get everything they need for a baby for free. You may have a baby shower and get a lot of what you need but that is temporary. Quit arguing about money. You two are not married. He is not responsible for keeping you up, he is only responsible for the baby. You are responsible for keeping up with yourself and the baby. Your insurance is not his problem if you two aren't married. You either find a plan you can afford with a high deductible or you do without once the baby delivers. Plan your budget together. If you two are sharing expenses in the household you should sit down and figure out how much you two bring in a month combined. Decide who is going to pay what out the expenses and plan accordingly. If you have to pay utilities, phone, cable, and groceries he may pay rent/mortage, groceries, gas, and child care when it comes. You two need to rein in the spending now especially if you plan on returning to work after you have the baby. You will have to buy diapers, formula, baby food, clothes, and pay child care. It's not cheap to have a baby. Formula alone can cost you up to $300/month. Unless you plan to breastfeed you guys are going to struggle. Save now at least 20% of what you bring home so when you are on maternity leave things won't be so tight. If he has issues with your spending habits it's because of 2 things - Responsible men want to make sure that the household is taken care of financially so he is already worried about how you two can afford things with a baby. Secondly, he's observed your spending habits and thinks you need to slow down on the spending. The sooner you both realize that the world doesn't revolve around you and it's all about the baby for the next 18 years the better off you will be. My honest opinion is that you two have a tough road to tow. You've known each other for 9 months and are living together and having a baby. My guess is that the baby was not planned and that you guys were having problems before you got pregnant. You as the woman have accepted already that he doesn't want to get married and you are telling him that you are okay with that when you know as well as I do that you would prefer to get married. Any woman that is pregnant and living with a man that tells you they are okay with not getting married is feeding everyone a load of crock. It's not true and my guess is that you are feeling a little resentful that he doesn't want to get married which only makes this situation worse. You've been ready to commit as is evident by the fact that you've moved in with him which was a mistake. If a woman wants a man to commit she doesn't move in with him until she knows he's ready to commit. You know he's ready to commit when he proposes and not a day before then. You two are going to have to be grown ups and start planning and get it together now before you have the baby. And no, don't move in with mom and dad so they can bale you out. You are an adult and wanted to do what you wanted to before you go pregnant. There had to be signs of his controlling nature before 7 weeks ago. It's not something that you just picked up on and it's not for mommy and daddy to take care of. My mom was a single mother that raised 3 kids by herself without help from her parents. She managed to do it, get a nursing degree, and make something of herself. You need to be a responsible adult and provide a place for you and your baby to live without mom and dad. You're going to be a mom in 9 months you'll see how it feels. You have options to help you - Go to DSS and see what they can do to help you. If your mom and dad are good parents they will not let you do without but for you to ask to come back home and live is putting them out. Congrats on the baby and good luck with the situation you've got yourself in.
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K.D. answers from Raleigh on September 30, 2009
He sounds like a narcissist. You might google it. I don't believe he will change. Sad but true. He always believes he is right and never sees anyone else's opinion. I believe I am married to one and regret it. Think about getting out of that situation, it will not get better.
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L.D. answers from Raleigh on September 30, 2009
As a Marriage and Family Therapist, I aplaud your hard decision not to get married just for the baby. Getting used to another person in marriage or having a baby are difficult enough when done separately but incredibly stressful when done at the same time. The time for setting boundaries with your boyfriend is NOW before you get into habits that are harmful to you and your baby. You need to be clear with him about what are appropriate ways to interact with you and what aren't. To quote Eleanor Roosevelt, "Noone can make you feel bad about yourself without your permission." If you don't think you are making bad decisions then quit apologizing and defending them. He doesn't have any say in your life now and will only have a say in the baby's life which will be equal to yours as a co-parent. As tough as it is, you need to look at this as a single parent in charge of your and your baby's life. A child does do best with both a mother and father in its life but only if there is limited conflict. This does not sound like your current relationship. Please don't get any further involved on the hope he will "change". Require the change before it goes any further. Any good therapist will not automatically "side" with either of you. It isn't about right or wrong but if its working. I would take the advice offered about looking into your options. Living with him at this point will only put you more under his control and make it more difficult to get out later. Taking care of yourself is the highest priority in taking care of your child. Take care and good luck.
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B.L. answers from Jacksonville on October 01, 2009
I can't imagine how hard it must be to do, but the best chance your baby could have at a good life would be to let a happily married man and woman who are financially secure adopt your baby. That would solve all these problems. You wouldn't have to deal with this joker any more - he has a whole lot of growing up to do, and a whole lot of life experience to get, and he's not likely to adjust his attitude any time soon. His attitudes are not compatible with taking care of a wife and family (which you would have to be his wife to get any military benefits). You do need to get an education to support yourself better, but it isn't fair for the baby to be in daycare 12+ hours every day while you go to school and work for many years. The baby could be with a loving family - and you would be able to pick out the family. When you really are ready to settle down, and you've found a GOOD man that you really want to be with, then you'll be ready and can raise children. This would be very hard, but it would be the least selfish thing you could do for this child. There are so many people who are truly ready to have a family, who can't. Most single moms keep their babies these days, and the babies grow up in poverty without dads much of the time. You could give your child so much more than that. Best wishes to you.
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K.P. answers from Memphis on September 30, 2009
The two of you need to be on the same page as much as possible. It seems that you are mostly having communication issues, with you trying to figure out exactly what he is meaning when he says you won't need to work *then*, but you do need to work *now*; and some of the other questions you're having. It may just mean the two of you sitting down at the kitchen table, laying it out on paper, and reaching an agreement, where you clarify some of these questions you're having, and saying things like, "Ok, when you say I won't need to work for six months after the baby is born, but then complain that I 'don't contribute enough financially' now, it confuses me, and I need to know -- are you planning on financially supporting all three of us for six months after the baby is born, so I won't have to work, but I need to work now? I'm a little confused."
Marriage (or pre-marital) counseling would be in order with a good counselor, so you can work through these issues now. Like it or not, you are stuck with this guy for the rest of your child's life, whether you get married or not. What will be best for you and him and your child, is for the two of you to have a happy marriage, but you've got to work on better communication now, or else you'll likely split up, whether you get married or not. Even if you don't get married, it will be best for your child to be able to communicate with his/her father and be on the same page as much as possible.
If there is a church in your area with a counseling ministry, that may be your best bet.
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E.G. answers from Clarksville on September 30, 2009
Yes you are right, that is a bad realationship, and i'm sorry he's a jerk. By saying he doesn't CARE if you have insurance..he is saying he doesn't CARE about you. that is so ugly! Now I am a military spouse, I have 2 kids, and go to school full time. Now the perfect senario I think you are looking for is that you guys will be together and the baby will be covered and that is enough? If yall got married(which i doubt he would do) you guys would get a house from the military, and insurance for both of you. You could still work and go to school PT. Seems like he doesn't want you to suceed. So I say the best thing for you to do it just leave! You have a job and you still have quite a few months to save up $ for your own place(which i'd start doing now) even if things seem ok..alot could happen in 8 months and he may not want either of you. So...if you were on your own he would HAVE to pay child support! so that is a for sure source of income! The baby would still be covered. and you CAN go to school and work. FAFSA, is financial aide. You can get school paid for 100%! then you get the $ that is left over after classes and books...which can be like $300 or more.I'm sure there are local community colleges where you can go pt or do online classes. and there are schools that are 100% online like APUS and offer free books which means even more $ back from financial aide. I think the best thing is for you to get use to being independent before baby comes, because once the baby is here it will be harder to work or start school or anything. and I know it's hard to think of doing it all alone, but lots of women do, and being alone is better than being opressed. IF you DO stay with him...then think about still trying to go to school at least part time, probably online so that you can still get the financial aide $..then he can't complain about that. good luck with everything!
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S.W. answers from Chattanooga on September 30, 2009
As u said DO NOT marry him because of the baby. Keep your Tn Care, but let him find out what it is like to raise a child on just his income.Make sure the child has his last name when it is born, that way IF anything should happen HE will be responsible for the raising of the baby.He is in the military and the baby will be eligible for military doctors, and basically anything else it needs. Stand your ground sis, he will learn. I am married to a once upon a time control freak. Its been 32 years and he found out that I wont be told what to do.We had 2 kids and raising them was my job while he worked.Do what you feel is best in your heart, and God bless.
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