S.C. asks from Effingham, KS on October 02, 2008
Flu Shots?? Do We Do Them on Our Children or Not?
I would love to hear opinions on flu shots and kids. I am vehemently opposed to doing it to myself due to such severe illnesses on the years I did get the shot. My husband says no because he doesn't trust them either. Our doctors want all our kids to have them. What do we do? I feel like I loose either way in this if they get a severe case of the flu. As for my kids, they are all healthy, active, and they do get the flu each year, just manageable cases of it. But these new flu strains are quite scary.
Any input would be great!
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D.K. answers from Lawrence on October 04, 2008
R.G. answers from Kansas City on October 03, 2008
My family has never done the flu shots and we haven't had the flu ever. From what I understand the flu vaccine are strans from last years flu. This years flu could be a whole new flu and they don't know what will be different in the flu stran until next year. I may be old fashion but, orange juice every day and washing hand while singing happy birthday 2x's. Oh Yeah, and I would clean with peroxide instead of bleach and gargle every day.
On a personal note- I have horses too! Husband, 2-kids, dogs, cat and bunny.
D.A. answers from St. Louis on October 03, 2008
The vaccine can't protect them from every strain out there, so even if they get the shot, they may still end up getting the flu. One of my children is allergic to eggs, so she can't get the shot. The other one gets the shot. However, neither of my children have ever gotten the flu, so it may be pointless that I'm making my older daughter get it. I run a home daycare, and I've never gotten either the shot or the flu.
Just my thoughts...
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K.L. answers from St. Louis on October 03, 2008
I loved the first response that suggested trusting you own instincts. There is a difference between unreasonable fear and instincts. My instincts saved my child more than a few times. I also appreciate the nurse who told you to avoid the live virus (mutated) and the thimerasol (mercury). Most flu vaccines still contian mercury, even though congress demanded that it be removed from the 'required' childhood vaccines.
I have read an enormous amount of research on the issue of vaccines from all camps on the subject. My conclusion is that they are largely more harmful than helpful.
If we understood the history of how our popular notions about germs were tainted by dishonest reports of scientific findings, we would all trust our instincts about injecting these toxins into our bodies. I trust science, but I trust pure science, real science. Too much 'science' has been twisted by those who profit by it and too many laws passed because of special interest lobbyists. Too many observable adverse reactions to vaccines are dismissed as 'anecdotal evidence'.
It took many years of pleading to get congress to take action and get the vaccine industry to stop using mercury in the 'required' childhood vaccines. Many doctors will tell you that such a small amount of mercury is not harmful because we get more mercury than that in our foods. This is not a reasonable statement and I will get a little techy here because I feel parents need to be informed enough to not be fooled with flimsy arguments. Foods are absorbed in the intestines and go directly to the liver. If mercury is present and the liver is functioning properly, the mercury should bind with a cytochrome (metallothionein) and be sent back into the stomach with the bile. Once bound to that cytochrome, the body should be able to send it out of the body with the feces. So, under normal circumstances, at least most of the mercury found in our food has a very good chance of being filtered back out of the body without allowing it to find a home in nerve tissue. Mercury is highly toxic to nerve tissue and will naturally gravitate to such tissue because of the high levels of fatty acids in nerves. If mercury is injected directly into the blood stream, there is little to prevent it from causing neurological damage, especially if there is a deficiency in certain nutrients, such as B vitamins.
So, if the above scientific information is correct, the doctors who tell us thimerasol is safe either don't understand it or they are not being completely honest with us. Something is not right about all this. This is not an argument about 'beliefs'. This is an argument about being willing to scientifically observe the the facts.
I know many of us are working very hard to be good parents and we want to be able to trust the medical industry. I am not anti-medical. MDs have saved my life 4 times and saved my son's life as well. But too many children are being harmed for us to not ban together to get to the truth on the issue of vaccines. Knowledge is powerful. I started with my instincts and decided to conduct my own fair-minded research. The information about mercury is only one of the aspects of vaccines that need to be investigated. We also need to question ingredients like alluminum, MSG, multiple antibiotics, animal (and human) proteins, ethylene glycol (aka antifreeze), etc.
My general conclusion after years of reading all sides of this ridiculous debate is that we need to avoid toxins and increase the body's natural strengths and immune systems. Nutrition, stress modification, and exercise are part of this, but so is letting our children's immune systems develop skills by getting sick once in a while. This does not mean we don't treat them when they are sick. But, whenever possible, the treatment should encourage the body's natural defenses to do the job itself, rather than using toxic and invasive procedures to 'cure' it for them. Our knowledge base about treating illness has been distorted by commercials and I feel we need to learn more in order to make more informed decisions. You don't need to go to medical school to read books! I think it would help if parents were willing to talk about this more and share real information with each other.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I am able to recognize corruption when it is there. I hope sharing my experience and thoughts are helpful to you and hasn't just complicated things. We live in great times and technology affords us much. I just think we need to realize that, just like a teenager who gets the keys to the car for the first time, we tend to get a bit wreckless when technology is new. Historically, vaccines are pretty new. We have been wreckless with them and it is time we got honest and assessed the damage. A whole generation of children need us to take this responsibility seriously.
My appologies to anyone who feels I am soapboxing, here. I just know that when my son was an infant, I very much appreciated someone taking the time to inform me. Best of luck to you and your precious children.
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T.S. answers from Kansas City on October 02, 2008
If your gut says no, then please dont do it. You know what is best for your babes...
Trust yourself!
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L.C. answers from St. Louis on October 03, 2008
Hi S.,
We don't get flu shots and we very rarely get sick. I think that eating healthy and making sure we get all the vitamins and minerals our bodies need to keep our immune system healthy is the best thing. I also think that getting sick and then taking care of ourselves while our body heals from the illness makes our immune system stronger. Granted, there are illnesses that can damage and kill humans but the flu doesn't kill or damage generally healthy people. And getting it gives our bodies a chance to strengthen our immune responses. That's what I think, anyway.
I also think that companies developing vaccines for common illnesses that really don't damage people who get them are making a lot, a lot, a lot of money on unnecessary vaccines. It seems like medical and pharmaceutical people feel compelled to build fear and undermine our body's natural healing abilities.
Off my soapbox now...
I wish you well with your decision.
L. C.
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K.B. answers from Kansas City on October 02, 2008
My son is 6 years old, almost 7, he has never had the flu, barely even a cold. He has seasonal allergeries and that's about it. I do not get him the flu shot, I feel his body has been doing just fine with defending itself on it's own, why interfere. He's kind of a germ phobic anyways, he always makes sure noone has drank out of his cup or ate off his plate. He regularly washes his hands without being told.
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J.S. answers from St. Louis on October 03, 2008
It's obviously your choice but here is my story. My kids are 1, 4 and 7 and have always been very healthy, not sick much and hadly ever need antibiotics to get over being sick. I get them the flu shot every year. Then this summer, we got a virus going through my house (that was like the flu) that caused everyone to get pnemonia. The 1 year old I was still nursing so he got over it with antibiotics. The 7 year old got antibiotics and had to do breathing treatments for 2 weeks and the 4 year old who was never sick before--he ended up in the hospital for 5 days to get superstrong IV antibiotics and wear and oxygen mask for 4 days. So am I getting my kids flu shots? You bet! I want to try and avoid them getting that sick again. They are going to get exposed to the flu from school, walmart, the grocery store and if the flu shot can build up their immunity so they don't go through a week or so of being sick, why not I say. Not to mention the fact that I'm still paying off the thousands of dollars in hospital bills, prescriptions and doctor visits. My insurance pays for flu shots so they are free.
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T.M. answers from St. Louis on October 03, 2008
I am an adamant supporter of flu shots. Having worked in middle schools for 5 years, I know how unsanitary (let's face it, how gross!) kids can be, and since the flu is an airborne virus, washing hands may not be enough to fight it off (others may not be as careful, or may cough/sneeze near your child). I get the flu shot each year and have never had any negative side effects. My son received his first shot this past week and, aside from the initial pain from the sting, has also had no side effects (he is 15 months old). If your children are around other children, such as in school, I highly recommend the shot.
S.T. answers from Kansas City on October 02, 2008
My kids have always had the shot I even get it every year. Last year we all came down with the flu but luckly it only lasted 9 hours for everybody. I'm also very germ aphobic so if you do things around your house like spray Lysol and use sanitizer (washing hands) often that should help prevent sickness somewhat. I have my son use germex as soon as he walks in the door from school.
A.P. answers from Kansas City on October 03, 2008
Wow, lots of good responses!
Just to add another thought (like you want to read yet another... hee hee)
I took my daughter in last year and she was swabbed and confirmed to have the flu--only it wasn't the strain they offered a vaccine for that year. So a vaccine doesn't necessarily mean you'll be safe from the flu anyway. The healthy eating/vitamins/exercise seems like sound advice either way...
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