E.P. asks from Glendale, CA on October 26, 2008
Attachment Parent: Nursing While pregnat/Night Weaning/Co-sleep Weaning
I have been nursing my daughter on demand since she was born and have been considering night weaning. She sleeps about 11-12 hours at night and normally nurses every 2-3 hours, which is mostly for comfort. She will squirm, nurse for a few minutes and go back to sleep. Before she would only wake up 2 times to eat, but she has some serious teething going on now. She has 6 teeth coming out at the same time, 2 molars and 4 canine teeth! So she is very uncomfortable and in order to go back to sleep, she loves comfort feeding. Now that I am 2 months pregnat, my nipples are very sore and I am very tired, so I have cut down on her nursing overall. I still nurse her every 3 hours but have cut down a lot of comfort feeding. I planned on nursing her until all her teeth came in, but now that I am pregnat, I would like to cut down some on the nursing. I am happy keeping her down to nursing for naps, nighttime and special times, like when ill. But, my spirited daughter is not having it. She never took to a pacifier so I have always allowed her to comfort nurse and it is a magical time for both of us.
I strongly believe in allowing things happen naturally. Does anyone out there have a similar situation? Also, she is co-sleeping and I feel it is going to be lots of changes very soon for her? I have been putting her for naps in her toddler bed in her room during the day and that has been going great. But how in the world will I transition her to sleep in her own bed at night if she is not night weaned??? Experienced Moms Please help. I loved my daughter and I respect her feelings and her needs, but I know I have to take into consideration my own, my husbands, and our new baby too. Can anyone relate???
Thank you for your help.
E.
So What Happened?™
My husband night weaned my daughter and it took about 10 nights. She wakes up has a snack, drinks some water and goes back to sleep. If she wakes up, my husband pats her tummy or back and she goes right back to sleep. I feel so much more rested now and really happy about the decision. It was a really tough one to make and her crying was really breaking my heart the first week, but it was worth the sacrifice on all of us. She still has about 4-6 nursings a day and it is a nice time to bond and reconnect. In regards to the sleeping, we may just all snuggle together, not too sure yet, we are taking it one step at a time. Thank you everyone for all the advice, support and love. It is sincerely appreciated!
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L.C. answers from Los Angeles on October 28, 2008
I don't have advice, but you sound like a very sensitive and caring mom. Trust your instincts and take it one day at a time, you'll create a situation that works for you and your child. I attend La Leche League meetings in the Long Beach area and find a lot of moms with breastfeeding experience to share. You might look for one in your neighborhood. It's a great group.
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D.M. answers from Los Angeles on October 27, 2008
E.!! You are amazing! Good for you, and congrats on the new addition to your family.
My son and I, are co-sleepers and I BF until I got sick and had to switch to bottle feeding, breast milk thawed and formula mix until the frozen stuff ran out. He weaned himself from the bottle (Frozen BM/Formual mix) at 18 months, for nightfeedings only and then we stuck with bottle for another couple of months while he got used to associating milk and sippy cup as okay. I would suggest starting to pump, so you can continue to give your daughter BM (if that's you desire), as long as she requires the feedings...pumping gave me an abundance of frozen and allowed me to keep giving him BM, if even in a bottle. But, I would work on the weaning at night first before moving to completely off BF totally. I like the Bra suggestion...will remember that one!
With transitioning beds, for us, it's a work in progress. I'm not one who prescribes to creating timelines for children, and firmly believe that our kiddos are the best at knowing what needs to happen next. My son has picked out his bed and bedding, we've done up his room and painted stuff together and he knows it's his. But, I don't want it to be traumatic or for him to feel like he's not welcome in my bed anymore. So, we lay down in his bed and cuddle, read books and sometimes nap there. But, he always knows my door is open. Over the past few weeks, he's become a little more partial to the 'McQueen' Bed and that is awesome! But, I think the key with anything that relates to toddlers is you can't push it or they will push back. Your little one is still young, and you are early in your pregnancy, so if you work on it for the duration of your pregnancy you may be able to get it done over that time. Even if it's just setting up a mattress in your room, or something transitional like that and working on the toddler bed closer to age 2.
You are going through a lot of changes, and they are BIG ones. Don't worry too much about getting things done...it'll work out the way it's supposed if you ease your little one into weaning first and then focus on the moving of beds, she'll go with the flow. Make he a part of it, and give her ownership of what's happening. Talk to her and explain to her the changes, for example becoming a big sister. I loved when my Mom and Dad, made me a part of office visits and decorating the babies bassinet and so forth.
I hope some of that helped!
C.L. answers from Los Angeles on October 27, 2008
Hi E.-
I think it's wonderful that you are enjoying your bonding with your baby so much.
I am actually not experienced at this but a friend of mine has continued to nurse her children even when pregnant with the next; I recently asked her how she got the older children out of the bed (to make room for the newborn) and she actually said that she continues to sleep with them. Right now she cosleeps with her 2 younger children (15 mos and 3 yrs) and the older one sleeps on a twin in the same room. She had to buy a king bed to make this doable.
I do agree that there will be lots of changes which may make it hard on your older child, so perhaps easing her into it or even continuing to co sleep with both of them?
In my experience the most helpful thing to cut down on night nursing has been to have the dad take over night parenting for a while (a week or two) and comfort baby in other ways.
Hope this helps!
D.L. answers from Los Angeles on October 27, 2008
if you are giving her a bottle as alternate to reduction in nursing try the bottle with just wate for the night feedings. I did with my son and he would go back to sleep right away not wanting that and within a week stayed asleep all night. Btw night feedings are bad for pearly whites coming in.
L.S. answers from Los Angeles on October 27, 2008
I just went through a similar situation, except my daughter does take a pacifier, so it might have been a little easier. I had the same issues when I first got pregnant, she was 9 months old, so I continued feeding her on demand, but by the time she was 13 months my milk supply was so low from being pregnant (I think around 4 months pregnant it really started to go down), she finally got tired of trying, and I think it tasted different and she lost interest all together (I was more committed to trying than she was because I really wanted to nurse until she was 2, but that didn't happen). So that may happen with you, I don't know, but what about having her snuggle in next to your husband? We started putting her to sleep with us and transfering her into her own bed. She was a good sleeper and I think not having me next to her helped her sleep longer, since she wasn't worried about nursing. Congrats on getting her to take naps in her toddler bed, that is now our biggest struggle (She is 19 months and my youngest daughter is 1 month), they don't exactly cooperate, it is tricky! We are all co-sleeping in a queen sized bed, because my husband is worried that the 19 month old might get jealous that the baby is sleeping with us, which is really funny to me because he was not all that excited about co-sleeping in the first place! Good luck, 2 kids are so much more work, but my girls are already bonded and it melts my heart.
Oh, something else I just remembered, my daughter started snuggling into my shirt and that became her comfort instead of nursing she holds on to the collar of my shirts. She still does this whenever she is tired and I even have a shirt tied to her toddler bed so when she does sleep in her bed she rolls over and can hold onto it. She even tries to get her baby sister to hold on to my (or her) shirt, it is so cute.
J.M. answers from Honolulu on October 29, 2008
Hi Mama E.,
I am so proud of you for your parenting styles. My advice comes to you through me watching my best friend raise her 4 children. She is a La Leche League representative (i.e. professional breastfeeding consultant, if you call the number for Hawaii you'll get her) and she got through what your talking about without a hitch. First, could it be that your nipples will toughen up as they've had to with all the breastfeeding stages? As for the sleeping arrangement, my girlfriend puts 2 queen size beds side by side, one being lower. As they've had their children, usually only the youngest 2-3 were still sleeping with mommy and daddy at the same time (right now there's still 2, including a baby). The mom, dad and baby sleep on the taller bed and the other children on the lower bed. If an older child falls asleep on the taller bed, they get scooted to the lower on after they fall asleep. They're happy because they're still in the same room, and if they start to squirm you're still right there to comfort them (often times just a hand on the back or a foot on the leg will do it). They usually encourage the children to graduate to their own rooms at about 4 years of age. This seems like the most natural, gentle approach to the change that has to occur in your sleeping arrangement. One last little bit of advice, if you try to wean your "spirited" 15 month old from nighttime breastfeeding AND put her in another room at night, and she's not ready, she may get needy.
P.R. answers from Santa Barbara on October 27, 2008
For the sake of you getting the sleep you need while pregnant I do recommend night-weaning. My daughter co-slept with us until about age 3, though we were slowly working on getting her to sleep in her own bed during that time. I night-weaned her around age 2 because she had started trying to nurse WAY too often and it interrupted my sleep too much. I think your baby is at a good age to night wean before it becomes difficult. I read the book "The No Cry Sleep Solution for Preschoolers and Toddlers" (there's a baby version too) and it gave some good advice for night weaning. Basically what I did was 1. Started out by letting her nurse for a couple of minutes. After a couple minutes, before she was done, I'd gently take her off, and then I'd roll over. I would encourage her to cuddle with my husband. 2. Eventually, I wouldn't even let her do it for a couple of minutes. She learned to just roll over herself and settle down on her own, and soon enough she stopped waking up so often. I think this is a great way to start the transition to the child's own bed. When you decide to do that, she'll be better able to soothe herself back to sleep.
Also, you may find that she stops nursing altogether as your pregnancy progresses. I have read that the taste of the milk can change and sometimes they don't want it anymore. I do NOT believe there is any harm for you to nurse while pregnant, and lots of moms tandem nurse (just make sure you read up on proper nutrition for you). I'm not sure I would like tandem nursing though; I think nursing is such a good time for bonding I'd want to devote all that time to the newborn. But do what feels right to you and both your children. Congratulations on such successful nursing so far and good luck with #2! BTW, my daughter is almost 4 now, and still nurses at bedtime. :) (No siblings though, at least not yet.)
S.F. answers from Los Angeles on October 27, 2008
My sons are 18 months apart, and I was still BFing and co-sleeping when we conceived DS2, so I know what you're going through!
Our lactation consultant said there was no reason I couldn't keep nursing. She said the milk would taste a little different to the older child, but that was it. As it happens, DS1 weaned himself at 17 months, when I was 8 months pregnant. I was relieved, because nipple stimulation can bring on contractions, and also I didn't want to "tandem nurse" (a friend of mine did and LOVED it, but I just wasn't into the idea).
Anyway, we wanted DS1 to be in his own bed BEFORE the new baby came home, because we didn't want the whole family there AND we really didn't want DS1 to see a connection between new baby and exile. So we started getting him to sleep in his crib until he woke for his nightly BFing session. Then we'd bring him to bed for the rest of the night.
(Try this book: "The No Cry Sleep Solution" by Pantley -- it's got some good strategies for getting the baby (1) to sleep, and (2) to stop co-sleeping).
When I was about 6 months pregnant *I* couldn't sleep in the bed anymore (my hips got sore for both pregnancies, and so I slept in the reclining chair for the last months). I would come to bed when DS1 woke, bringing him with me. But he was really used to the crib by this point and was falling asleep there, which I think was important. We did this gradually.
His night-nurse session came later and later in the night, until it was actually early morning. And toward the end of my pregnancy, rather than bring him ME, I brought the prepared bottle. We still both went to bed. By the time DS2 was born, DS1 was used to his own bed and was weaned. And if he wanted to come into bed with us for the last hour or so of darkness, he was welcome. (And still is, lol.)
Good luck!
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