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ADHD Third Grader

I'm at my wit's end here. My son is ADHD and is in public school. I've already signed the papers for the benefits of the 504 plan to extend time for the tests he will take in January and March that will determine promotion to the fourth grade. My problem is that he is a bright kid that doesn't care to prove his intelligence by taking a test. The Monday before the Parent-Teacher Conference, I was called in to sit with him in class as he took a test so that the teacher could have a grade for him. On a test that students are given 40 minutes to complete, he completed within 25 minutes. I'm still waiting for his grade on that. My concern is that though I know he can complete the test with academic accuracy, he most likely won't because he doesn't like taking tests. He's in all kinds of programs that offer additional help with the content of the test, but there's nothing available that I know of that will help him stay on task, so that he could complete a test within the allotted time. That's what I need. Even though the 504 will extend his time, I still don't think he'll complete it, no matter how much extra time they give him. For example, he started a one-page math homework today at 12:30 pm, and finished it at 8 pm. Homework is a tension-filled experience. I'm lost. I don't know if I should pursue other schools, maybe independent or private that teach to his learning style, or ask for another teacher if the teacher is the problem (I'm still trying to figure that out). Are there any techniques we can practice at home to help him do things within a timeframe--or classes we can take? As long as I know that he will complete the test, I'm confident that he'll pass it. Time is drawing near, and I'm really nervous.

Additional information: He was just switched from one medication to another. Both calm him down, but none helps him to focus on completing a task.

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Hey M.
I honestly don't think medication is the answer,we tried it for a week when my oldest was in third grade.However,we weren't convinced in the first place that he had add.
Have you thought about nutrition,good vitamins including omega 3's? If you are interested,I have some information that might help.
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I'll bet your son is bored. He's bright and has no patience for the kind of "training" he is getting. He would thrive if "educated"...

Schedule another 504 meeting in writing and send everything to everyone by certified, return receipt mail. Cc: everyone involved.

Insist on a one-on-one aide and special location for testing. If his teacher feels he is too distracted in the classroom, the aide can keep him on-track there too. I work as a one-on-one aide and some of the kids I've worked with are like your son. Very bright, but unable to focus.

There is NO reason for a parent to sit in the classroom to keep a child focused on their work. He needs to be introduced to stratagies that will serve him in the rest of his life. (You are not going to be sitting with him through HS and college, or going to work for him when he';s older.)
If his teacher can't offer this, then the child needs resource room with a special ed teacher, and an aide in the classroom.

Another option for him is an inclusion class. They have two co-teachers. One a mainstream teacher, one special-ed. The two teachers run the classes in tandem. It's not just the special ed kids who get the attention, the teachers help the entire class to learn in different ways. You tend to find more flexible creative teachers, with a broader range of skills in these classes.

Make a list of what you want for your son, and what the district has to offer. At the beginning of the 504 meeting, state your goals, and what you expect from the committee. Make it clear you will be recording the meeting (You are ABSOLUTELY allowed to do this in NYS) and take detailed notes. Ask for coppies of all the assessments and reports before your meeting, and ask for explanations of anything you don't understand. If they present you with paperwork at the meeting, tell them you wish to reschedule for a time after you have been able to review their doccumentation.

Also, if you disagree with the committee's findings, you can sign a letter of partial agreement, and appeal the parts of the 504 that you disagree with. When in the meeting keep the committee focused on your son and his best interests... Don't get distracted by double talk.

Also the best thing I ever did was to consult a Special Ed lawyer. For the $250 consultation fee, I got more leverage than I ever could of gotten on my own. Just being able to cc: him on the letters worked like a charm.

Two good resources are www.wrightslaw.com and www.schwablearning.com

Good luck with everything.

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Hey M.
I honestly don't think medication is the answer,we tried it for a week when my oldest was in third grade.However,we weren't convinced in the first place that he had add.
Have you thought about nutrition,good vitamins including omega 3's? If you are interested,I have some information that might help.
www.SwitchStoresForHealthyLiving.com

If you are open to nutritional remedies that help this situation, call me at ###-###-#### tomorrow at @3:30pm.

Your child is a "blue" personality and it is normal for his brain to RUN 500 miles an hour faster than the rest of the other personality types. Focus is harder for this personality because they are very creative and want to do everything they see. They get very bored and are very bright.

EVERYONE is Trace mineral deficient. So I am sure he is. Trace minerals will give everyone the "balance" needed to function properly and this in turn helps focus a blue better. This is why the "DRUGS" will NEVER WORK FOR THIS PROBLEM!!! THEY MAKE THE TEACHERS HAPPY THAT THEY CAN BETTER COPE WITH THE ACTIVE STUDENT! Can ya tell I do not agree with drugs??

Anyway-if you want some sound advice for ideas to balance your child to help him with this test coming up-call me! It may be worth a try. I love to help people who want my help!

The children are the Wealth of the Nation!

God Bless,
VitaMomma

I would highly recommend you read the book "Boys Adrift" by Leonard Sax. I think he gives a lot of insight on boys with ADHD, and similar disorders. I have two boys and I found the book very helpful. God Bless!

Hi M.
This is not an easy situation.
Have you thought about homeschooling?
You may think at first glance that this is crazy but your words say he is a bright kid. Is it possible that the public school is using poor methods of teaching your child. Is there too much down time because he used to finish quick so had to put his head on the desk to wait for the others? The learned response to that is to go slower and that leads to not bothering to stay on task.
How much time do you spend getting him to do what some teacher thinks is important? How much time does the teacher spend actually teaching? I am not antipublic school, but I do think that it is not right for all kids. Some kids need one-on-one to learn. Homeschooling offers that possibility.
I did not check where you lived but if you are interested in more info or how to check into homeschooling. write me.
God bless you
K. SAHM married 38 years=== adult children 37 coach and entrepreneur; 32 lawyer, (we were offered meds for him at 18 mos. diagnosed hyperactive, and some days I was pulling my hair out)--he and his lovely wife gave us our first grandchild this summer; and twins 18 ---homeschooled them pulling them out in Oct of 3rd grade, and homeschooling them through high school. One is majoring in fine arts; and the other journalism(she never picked her head up off the floor til she was 10 months old) at different colleges finishing their first semester.

I wish I had some advice. My 16 y/o son has ADD and never cared about school. When he got a good grade he would not tell me and if I found it in his back pack he would say 'oh yeah.' When he failed a test he didnt care, he just said it was stupid and didnt feel like doing it. He is supposed to be a junior this year, but doesnt have enough credits, so NOW he is worried that he wont graduate with his class. The school and I decided to send him to an alternative high school and he seems to be doing better in a controlled small classroom.

Hi M.,

I can certainly relate to your situation. My son who is now in 5th grade is "inattentive" but not at all hyperactive. We have chosen not to medicate since I'm not convinced it will help with his attention and I just don't want to go down that road. A friend recently introduced me to the Feingold diet (you can google it to find out more info) It basically entails getting all the chmeicals and additives out of what they eat. I have not yet implemented it, but plan to as soon as I get my packet of info. Also, Omega 3's are excellent for brain fucntion. You can get a pleasant tasting "paste" at the health food store.
I am always reading this site for any "pearls of wisdom" that I can pick up related to this problem.
Good luck!
K.

Hi M., I have used this site for the past few months for my 14yr old ADHD son. Thinking back to my son as a 3rd grader I remember how hard it was to not only work with the school but to get through the homework time afterschool.

Concerning the school - I would suggest that you make sure that all suggested ADHD accomodations are spelled out on the 504. There is so much emphasis on specific tests that teachers and administrators don't focus on the everyday life of the child. Things like rereading the instructions to him, sitting him in the front of the class and ensuring that the teachers remind him to stay on task are key tools that enable your child to learn compensation skills for the issues he faces. I know your son is young but if he is given more structure now it will more likely become part of his nature to implement the tools and feel successful. And that is what it is all about. The school should feel a moral obligation to help him and the added bonus for them is he will achieve on these key tests.

Concerning homework - Oh boy do I feel your frustration. The approach I took and still take with my son is making sure he logs his homework (and brings home the books he needs!), we discuss the list when he gets home and plan a schedule for him each night that includes - first some initial downtime, then 15 minute reminders that he agreed to start this item at such and such a time. I give him a small break and again say okay it's time to finish up. So I try to get one thing out the way and then after a break help him (by reminding him to stay on task) plow through the rest. Sometimes dinner falls in between but I am conditioned now to remind him of our "deal" and heap on the praise when it's all done.

I know in third grade it doesn't mean much to him if his homework gets done but between the praise and perhaps a small reward at the end of the week he will start to think "Hey - this is worth it".

This approach has been my "religion" for many years. My son is having other problems now but I can see that he feels good when he knows his homework is done and he stuck to the timeline - even when football is on:) His grades are not great but I have the edge with the school because they cannot say his lack of results are habits from home.

As the mother of three I know it must be tough. I have two and I'm barely keeping my head above water. Keep on top of the school to make sure his 504 includes every possible ADHD accomodation. Try your hardest to create that homework partnership at home.

Lastly, in terms of medication. I have tried numerous times to keep my son on a long acting med. For him, it just doesn't cut it. He is on short term medication with his last dose at 3:30 and we have not had any sleep issues. Just a thought - it's a pain in the neck to to ensure he has the three doses but the benefits he has experienced are major.

Your a great mom - stay strong and don't be afraid of the teachers or administration. Your son will model your strength and that right there is your key ingredient.

H.

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