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10.5 Month Still Waking and Need to Wean Paci and Bottle Soon,no? When and How?

Hello Mamas,

My 10.5 month is not sleeping through the night. He has never been a good sleeper. He has slept through the night (meaning all night long) a few times, but he is very inconsistent...and it seems like for the last month, he has been waking 1-2 times at night...and sometimes getting him back to sleep has been difficult. It started with him teething and now he is just waking up for feedings and cuddling. So let me start by saying he only uses his pacifier at naptimes and at night, but I have noticied that he has grown more attached to it (plays with the handle as he doses off). before, he would give it up soon after waking up from his nap, now he keeps it in his mouth and if i take it out, he cries (i still take it away w/in 5 mins). I was never a big fan of the paci, but gave in when at 3 weeks, he became colic! I have also noticed that he is growing very attached to his bottle...especially at night feedings-he won;t let go of the bottle sometimes (in his hands). On top of this, he has learned how to cry (uncontrollably and with sentiment) when he doesn;t get his way (yep, he has a big personality)...so the few times we have let him cry it out, he does for 30 mins to an 1hour, and then we just can;t take it anymore! also my husband doesn;t like to and cannot stand hearing him cry, plus he gets home from work super late because of his shift...so that doesn;t help. given all this information, here are my questions:

1) how do I get him to sleep the entire night or at least only wake up once at night? should i feed him at all if he wakes up? he has such stamina that after 30 minutes, i get worried and go check on him-bad idea, he gets hysterical! also after 30 mins, either my hubby or I have lost patience hearing him cry...so we feed, hold and let him suck the paci until he falls asleep...now, if we don;t feed, he continues with the meltdown...should I check on him or leave him alone?
FYI: I have a sleep training book it is by Kim something it is the no cry method...it was working about 3 months ago, but with travel and teething, everything is out of wack...now, that he is older, i am not sure if it will work...
2) On top of this, I would like to wean him off the paci by his first birthday and the bottle by 14 months (or vice versa)...how do i do this when he is so reliant on both? I have tried a teddy bear (doggy) as a transitional but he does't care for it-he just throws it...
*** I work 3 days a week and I will be going back 4 days a week in mid-Jan. having my mother in law take care of the baby has its pros and cons...a con is that I am pretty sure she does things differently...so consistency is tough during naptimes....which may or may not affect nighttime sleeping...
4) how many hours between last nap and bedtime? what's a good bedtime?
sorry so long! it's just that this is all causing a lot of tension in my relationship with my husband and on top of that, my mother in law voices her opinions or theories to my hubby, making it difficult for him to follow my lead....she is really great with the baby, and i know means well and is helping us out, but...

What can I do next?

So What Happened?™

Thanks Mamas for all your advice. I calmed down...sometimes you just need to write to get it all out of your system. Thank you for letting me do that and then approach this rationally. The first thing we did is take away the 1am feeding...it was rough the first week-lots of crying, but he no longer wakes up for a feeding at that time. if he wakes up, he'll put himself back to sleep or I'll go in and cuddle him and then put him down. He is teething...so he's had a few rough nights. He sometimes wakes up at 4am-but by then, he has slept 8 hrs so I don;t feel so bad that he is asking for feeding...of course, he only takes 2-3 oz....so we need to work on getting rid of that one. I've calmed down about the paci, after all he only uses it to go to sleep. We are going to slowly wean him off the bottle by cutting it down to just his naps and nighttime bottle first...thanks again!

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Hi M.,
Most kids don't wean from those things until after a year. Mine didn't give up her paci until she was 3. Relax, he's still just a baby. I would wait & see how he's sleeping at 12 months, then give it a try.

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Sounds like things are pretty difficult and heated right now. Others may disagree but I think you should step back and get the kid sleeping without a lot of contact from you. So give him his bottle and paci back ...throw out your plans to wean by a certain date. Once everyone is sleeping again come up with a plan to wean first from the bottle. I don't think you need to wean him from the paci any time soon as long as he just uses it at night. Some kids just need that at night - one of mine had a paci (his "bim-bim") until his 4th birthday. He is 14 now with no cavities and pretty straight teeth and so far as I know hasn't started chain smoking or anything yet. As for the afternoon nap, probably you don't want to stretch much more than 3 hours in between when he gets up from nap and then goes down for the night. Remember: the more they sleep - the more they sleep!!

Good luck...soon you'll look back at this and laugh....not really but you will look back at it and be glad that its over!!

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Hi M.,
Most kids don't wean from those things until after a year. Mine didn't give up her paci until she was 3. Relax, he's still just a baby. I would wait & see how he's sleeping at 12 months, then give it a try.

I would wean him off the bottle first. When he is a year old I would cut out a bottle feeding every two days starting with the least favorite. Putting real milk in there is easier for them to adjust than having formula in the sippy.
The paci thing I let my kids have it until they are about five. My dentist says that as long as there aren't any permanent teeth it won't affect the teeth. Because their mouth is still growing whatever my happen with buck teeth or whatever with the paci it corrects itself within a few months after no more paci. so with having said that we start at age 4 making it a rule to only have it at bed time. then we talk about how they want to get rid of it. my last one put them in a bag and hung it on the tree for the tooth fairy to get it and she left him a bag with a prize in place of the pacifiers. I also at age 4 start to cut them down the middle. So that they still look intact but when put in the mouth you can't suck on it anymore. We would save them because my kids would rub them on their noses. I didn't care of they did that and they wouldn't put it in their mouth becasue it just didn't work anymore.
Do not fee him at all at night. At 3 months of age their body is able to go all night without feeding in the middle of the night. At this late stage you will have to be strong and do a cry it out method. When he wakes go into his room, do not pick him up, lay him back down give him his paci (see why you can't give that up yet) and then rub his back until he is very drowsy and then leave. He will cry again give him 5 minutes and then go back in do the reassuring thing again and then leave. Each time you add a few minutes on to the time that you stay out of his room before going in again. The first night is going to be hell and he will eventually fall asleep because of exhaustion. Then each night the time it takes will get less and less until eventually you don't have him crying at all. The first night may take up to an hour or so. So be prepared to follow through and be strong. Your success depends on it.
With the mother in law why don't you talk to her about some of these ideas and see what she says. this may give her a feeling that she is helping you and perhaps talk to you about this stuff instead of your husband. If your husband knows you are talking to her about it he may then follow your lead more because you are 'seeking advice from his mommy'. Then do it the way best works for you and your baby of course talking to your husband about it and also giving him all the altneratives so you can both work together and are both aware of all the different things that you could be doing. The most important thing is that you pick one and stick to it. Eventually it all works out.

Let him have his paci. Good grief, it's not a test of character. Just let him have what comforts him. If it bothers you to see it, tell him it's just for bedtime/naptime. Especially if he had colic - maybe he's a kid who needs a little more soothing, and that's ok, you know? He will become more secure and comfortable as he gets older.

I personally wouldn't do a night feeding at this age, just because their bodies then expect those calories at night and they get hungry. What I did when I had that problem was to gradually (over 3 or 4 days) add more water to the middle of the night bottle. They eat more during the day to make up for it, but it's not so sudden that they're really hungry the first night.

Take a deep breath. My suggestion is to pick your battles. Wean off the bottle (give sippy cups constantly - starting with the soft spouts - try different kinds). Forget about the passifier - let him have this for now. He is still a baby, and this may help you during this nightime transition. When I weaned my then 10 month old she was waking and only consoled by nursing. I made sure she was good and fed before bed time and then if she got up and cried i'd go in after abou 10-15 minutes "Shhhhh" and cuddles "sleepy time", if that was not enough for her to calm, it was back to bed. I stopped running iin immediately every time she cried. Eventually she figured it out. I also put in the small stuffed doggy, passifier (she does not really take it) and soft blanket. She is now a year old and often cuddles the blanket and doggy to sleep - and knows what "sleepy time" means. i do the routine for naps too. Sometimes she does still cry when i put her to bed (I think she does not want to miss anything), but for 5 minutes the most.
Make sure he is nice and full at bed time, give him the passi, his doggy, say good night. It will be a couple of hard nights, but it will get better. Things always get messed up when they are sick or because of travel. You just start the routine again and he'll get it. It is the routine that will get him to understand what is coming next and eventually accept it. Good Luck!

M.,

My only advice on the sleeping thru the night is that sometimes you just have to make them cry themselves to sleep. It may take 2-3 sleepness nights in a row...but once they realize that you don't pick them up once they cry...they learn to comfort themselves. My youngest who is 2 1/2 still gets up 1-2 nights at times. My problem...is I feel I have to comfort him right away so that he doesn't wake his older brother up who goes to school. However...the 2-3 sleepless nights worked perfectly for my older son! Now...I just have to figure out how to work on my youngest son!

As far as the paci is concerned. I personally think children should not have them after 2. My son was very attached to it the longer he had it and I feared taking it away. My goal was to have it taken away at 1 year which is the same time I take the bottle away from my kids. My husband ended up cutting the end of the paci off at 18 months and it worked perfectly! My son would pick it up and put it in his mouth...get ticked off and throw it down. He was over the paci in 1 day!

Good Luck!

We weaned from paci's by 10 months but my son still wakes up at 3 years old to be consoled and my 8 month old is up atleast 8 times a night, it's just what we do, having a baby means losing sleep and it definitely does for us but I refuse to make them cry for hours because they need comfort. I wouldn't take his paci away if it is that important to him as my kids don't really care about them one way or the other. My 8 month old wakes up from her last nap at 5 and goes to bed at 8.
(sorry can't help with the bottles, we have never used them)

I just wanted to reaffirm that an older toddler with a paci was not in my plan but that's how it ended up working out and everything is ok. She is a well adjusted,happy kid with straight teeth. Just after she turned 4 she said: I'm going to throw out my "nuk-nuk." She got up , put it in the garbage and an hour later decided she wanted it back. I fished it out, cleaned it thoroughly, and gave it back to her. This seemed to reassure her that she hadn't backed herself into a corner and that I would let her change her mind. The next morning she put it in the garbage for good with no prompting from me.

There is a lot of pressure to hit milestones at a certain pace but that is not always what is right for the child, the family. The good thing about waiting until kids are older for certain things (like weaning, potty training, etc.) is that they understand better, you can read them books about the topic, have conversations, and ultimately the actual process is a lot shorter (and therefore less of a hassle).

good luck.

(Sorry no advice on the bottle - I didn't bottle feed)

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