Husband is friends w/ ex-girlfriend

Hi Mamas – I really need your advice because this situation is making me crazy. My husband's high school sweetheart moved into the area recently. She got in touch with him after 10 plus years. She's "special" to the family - there's pictures of her in family albums and my mother-in-law was very excited when she moved to the area. She's apparently happily married with a boatload of kids, so I'm not worried that she's after my husband.

However, I'm irritated that she's having so much communication with my husband and in-laws. They email each other and instant message each other. My husband isn't totally open about his interactions with her because he knows it irritates me. We had an argument when I saw an email he sent her before she moved to the area. It wasn't really inappropriate, but referred to when they were dating which made me mad. He deletes messages from her so I won't see them and get upset.

I can't ask my husband to cut off communication with her – they're friends and he doesn't have many. She's in touch with my inlaws anyway, so she's always in the background. I've never met her and have no desire to. She's never asked to meet me, which I find odd, as she seems so interested in every other aspect of my husband's life.

I want to snap out of this and be mature (not feel like a 13 year old!), but am not being very successful. Help!

Susan, you sound VERY reasonable --- I think it is time to tell your in-laws and your husband--

"""" I am uncomfortable with how much delight is being had by you--- over someone who pretends I don't exist. If '''Diane'' wants to include ''' John'''( I'm making up names here - in case you couldn't tell) AND HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN in the life of herself and her family--- great - but I'm not comfortable with what's going on - really not comfortable at all'''''

Your husband is not a single guy any more- he is married with children- and to re-create a friendship that seems to exclude you and his children is ------------ time for a counselor- sorry- that doesn't sound right to me at all.

You 4 --- wife, husband, and two little boys --- are a set - she needs to be freinds with all of you or none of you.

That's the way it looks to Old Mom
Blessings,
Judy ( aka- Old Mom)

Susan,

I agree with Judy. This resurfaced interloper needs to accept all aspects of your husband's current life or none of it. You don't have to meet her, but your hubby should tell her about you and that you and your kids are the focus of his life now.

If this happened to me I'd be suspicious as h*ll as to the motives of those involved. Definitely say something to the in-laws about how uncomfortable the whole thing makes you feel.

Supportively,
Melissa

It sounds like they are the ones acting like children. You are not being at all unreasonable with your discomfort.

I agree with previous posters she needs to be friends with you and your husband. Your in-laws are their own people and unfortunately you can't do anything about their friendship with her. However the ex needs to be told by your husband that everything has to be out in the open and everyone is friends. I'm not saying you and the ex need to be best friends but if and when she wants to see your husband you should also be there. My husband had a thing very similar going on with his ex awhile back and once she found out she had to hang out with me too if she wanted to see him she didn't text/email him as much and to make things even better my husband realized how much it bothered me(finally)and actually has quit all contact with her. Tell your husband all of your feelings, he should respect how and why you feel the way you do and take you as his #1 consideration in this matter. You deserve not only to be heard but to be respected for the wife you are. Best of luck!

Geez Susan, you are making assumptions based on your feelings. You don't know that she hasn't asked to meet you. You only know that your husband has not told you if she's asked.

You don't want to meet her even tho she is a friend of your husband and in-laws?

You don't even know her or her family. Why haven't you asked to meet them? This relationship seems to be having a major impact on your life even tho you know very little about both the relationship and the people involved.

We always fear most that which we don't know.

You can make this a family relationship by arranging for both families to get together. After you get to know her and her family you will have information that will help you decide how involved you want to be. This knowledge may or may not change your feelings about your husband and in-laws friendship with the woman. IT will give you information on which to base your decision. Men understand facts better than emotions.

I understand why he deletes her messages. He doesn't want to upset you. He might be more open if mentioning his friend didn't upset you. Your unwillingness to be a part of the relationship is dangerous for your own relationship with your husband. He most likely finds your attitude and non-acceptance of even getting to know her as jealousy when you may have no reason to be jealous. He may not know how to deal with your jealousy and anger. This could result in him withdrawing from you as he's withdrawn the e-mail. Who wants to be around anger and jealousy? When you were a teen didn't you not tell your parents about things that you knew were OK because your parents would be unhappy about them? Adults do the same thing. Keeping information about this friend from you could indicate that this relationship with her is inappropriate. But at this point in time it more likely indicates that he doesn't want to upset you. With the need to withhold important information may cause you both to begin fighting over this friend. You won't know if the difficulty in this marriage is caused by his outside relationship or because of your refusal to be a part of that relationship.

GET TO KNOW HER AND HER FAMILY. Have both husbands, both wives, and all kids get together. Or start with part of each family. I do suggest that the first meeting be within a group setting. Then you can decide if it would be possible for the families to socialize together. You will have clues as to her family's dynamics. You'll be better able to judge if she is a threat to your marriage.

For one partner to have a relationship with their ex outside of their relationship with ther current partner is dangerous. It is also unfair for you to try to end that relationship without knowing what that relationship actually is. If you do try to end the relationship it would be understandable if your rancor drove him away from you also. You would be controlling his life instead of being a part of his life. The two of you need to make a decision about this together.

You love your husband and he loves you. He chose this woman as his friend. It's quite possible that you would also like her if you gave her a chance. You both enjoy his company. I suggest that the 3 of you have similarities which encourage friendship.

Whatever happens after the two families get to know each other may result in either family not wanting to socialize. If you continue to feel that their relationship is inappropriate you'll then have actual information with which to discuss the situation. You will be better able to deal with reality base on experience instead of just your feelings.

Marriage should be based on trust. Your post sounds like you don't trust your husband. You may be right to not trust him but you will not know that you're right if you don't find more information.

As a police officer I rode often with male partners. One's whose marriages were solid arranged for me to meet their wives early in our assignment together. A part of a successful marriage is being open about your activities, friendships, and feelings. YOu've cut off communication with your husband regarding his friendship. If you don't re-establish communication you'll not be able to actually know what is happening. And you will continue to be upset which will also undermine your marriage.

I have had several men friends that were just that; men and friends. It is possible for friendship to happen between the opposite sex. We hear more about the affairs. In reality there are more friendships than unfaithfulness.

There is a quote that has helped me be more positive in my life. "We usually get what we're expecting." This is because we give energy to what we focus on. We spend time expecting the worst instead of looking for the best. We build on either expectation. Negative begets negative. Positive begets positive.

Your reaction to your husband's friendship with his ex may or may not be reasonable, depending on how much you trust him.

If I were the ex-girlfriend, and I was informed that the wife became angry or upset when my name was raised, I would not wish to meet her. Why would I deliberately bring anxiety into her life, or have to experience her suspicion or dislike of me? I'll bet this woman may well be curious about you, and perhaps would welcome your friendship if it were available, but is too tactful to push the issue. It sounds like you have made your attitude toward her pretty clear.

For balance, you might want to consider a similar situation with a few details rearranged: I have a couple of ex-boyfriends whom I would be delighted to see again if they moved anywhere near me, because we were very close and I do still think of them as friends. I am quite sure my trusting husb would have no objection, and would in fact be curious about meeting them. And I feel the same about him with his ex-girlfriends. He chose me as his life partner, and his dedication has been clear and constant for 28 years.

Assuming you can and do trust your husband, could it be the ex-girlfriend's "specialness" to your in-laws that's really eating you? If it were me, I'd be really cautious about interfering with other people's friendships, especially your in-laws'. You could give everyone the idea that you are insecure, controlling, or worse.

Try to picture the positive effects of celebrating and supporting your husband's friendships. If you can pull this off with maturity and grace, you could really shine in his eyes. You could also win the admiration of your in-laws, and grow in your "specialness" to them.

If this woman makes you uncomfortable, talk to your husband. If he loves you he will try to work with you to find a solution you can both live with. However, there may be nothing you can do about your in-laws.

Best of luck

I am sorry you are going through this stress!!!! My husband has an ex girlfriend and she used to call him and ask him and our son to play dates with her and her son ( my son was only months old and her son was 3) He never did because I felt it was wrong and I flipped out.. It was a childish reaction but non the less he didn't go. She stopped calling/texting/facebooking when she got into a relationship and then when that ended she started up again... I know this because I could see it on her myspace.. all childish I KNOW... BUT I felt protective... and when I told him that she was only calling him because she didn't have a guy he stopped talking to her. Though I know she texts him now and again and he deletes the messages so that I don't see them and get mad. But I FULLY trust my husband... I think I get more mad because it feels like a disrespect on her part.. Why don't you invite me too? why would you JUST invite MY husband???? So I empathize with you! Hang in there darling and if you need a shoulder to vent on.. I AM HERE!!!

You're not going to like this response, but get over it. He's married to you. He adores you and is so aware of your feelings. She was a girl friend. I'm still friends with all of my ex-boyfriends. I don't have that many, but I see them occasionally. One who I dated for a significantly long time, is the godfather of my first born. His parents and I exchange Christmas cards and letters and I wrote the liturgy for his little sister's wedding. His friends, all of them, made him the man, the husband he is today. Friendships, true friendships, are rare. They withstand the test of time. Invite her and family over for dinner, make them, all of them, friends. Get to know her and her husband. You may be surprised to find that you like her as much as your husband does. Granted you won't have the history, but she is a family friend. It frustrates me to no end that ex-girlfriends (or boyfriends) are expected to cut all ties to the collateral friends they make as the result of that relationship, especially when it was a mutual decision to not get married, to just be friends. If she hadn't dated your husband before would you be so jealous? If this was a woman who he became friends with at work would it bother you? Do you interact with male co-horts at work? Would you consider them workplace friends? Is your husband jealous of them? Probably not. This is a part of his past, key word here: past. Good times, great friend... not only for him but his parents as well. Another key word: wife. You're it, you got the prize. Enjoy his friends, they helped him become the guy you fell and are in love with, the father of your kids.

Hi Susan,

Part of what would make me feel uncomfortable in this situation is the fact that your husband is acting kind of secrative about it even if nothing bad is going on - deleting emails so you don't see them, etc. I'm not suggesting you "snoop", and I can understand why you don't like it - how would your husband feel if the tables were turned?

In the past when I have felt the initial jealousy of my DH talking to other females I have usually found that once I got to know the people better I really had nothing to worry about. If she is in the area again why don't you suggest a play date at a local park (somewhere nutral) with husbands and kids. Then maybe you can judge the situation better. I have also found in the past that when DH is around other women it actually makes him appreciate me MORE - he is glad I don't do X, Y, Z like so and so.

Good luck, hope you guys can figure out a good solution.

Hi Susan, I have experienced this situation myself. Even though you have no desire to meet her. Meet her, you must... Ask your husband to introduce you. Fight fire with fire...so to speak. If your husband refuses to let you become friends with her... then that is the time to confront him with "why?" If he is trying to hide something, then that is a red flag. At least it was with me. Your friends should be friends with him and visa versa. Opposite sex friendships with married couples are OK, if both of you are friends with those people. That is what finally worked for me. I told my husband that if he continued to keep his old ladyfriend an exclusive friend and not let me into that friendship, then he had to end that. I told him how it made me feel and my need to be included. Don't hide your feelings and ask him not to hide his. Let him know you aren't worried about losing him, but feel left out of an obviously great friendship. Try it... see if it helps you feel better and him too. He will have to trust you with that old friend, and maybe to two "couples" can become great "couple friends". It happens all the time. Carla

I am living with a similar situation except that have the two extremes. i have my husbands ex wife to deal with and his first love from highschool. His ex wife is an evil horrible person. I am a pretty easy going kind of woman and I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. we have shared custody of their son so she is in our lives for the next 8 years no matter what. I tried to include her in things we did as a afmily so my stepson would not have sucha divided life. but after they were divorced for 4 years and we had been married for over a year she was still trying to jump in to my husbands bed. so that was my experience with his first ex wehn his highschool sweet heart came back into his life I wwas ready for a fight because I had dealt with his exwife. but honestly his highschool sweetheart is now my best friend. a lot more years have past between highschool and now and she may be a really cool person if you give her a chance. try to put the jealousy thing asside and be open minded. put yourself in his shoes. don't you have a best friend from a long time ago?? my mother in law is still favorable to my husband's highchool sweetheart and that is hard she has pics of her and him from school but no pics of him and I from our wedding. but she is cool and I love to gang up on my husband when he is feeling all high and mighty. it is great. good luck

Susan,

Best way to reduce the conflict - become friends with her! She is obviously a wonderful person since your husband and his family want her in their lives, so why not make her part of yours? Awkward at first, but an opportunity for you.

Believe me I know it is hard. Probably harder when you live in the same area rather than 6 hrs apart.
I have met my husbands ex-girlfriend. It wasn't necessary but I at least know who she is and what she looks like. And I really can't picture my husband with her now.
Be open with your husband about your feelings. I occasionally ask about her or don't shut down when he mentions her but don't ask for a full report on amount of contact, etc.

I would let your husband know how you feel. Do not say you make me feel this way when...... Just tell him I feel ................when you spend time (online or which way it is); It is still time with this other person. Also, you might ask him how he would feel should your old boyfriend move in next door and start calling and emailing you. This might help him to have a new perspective.

Snap out of what!!! That your husband is having an AFFAIR
No matter how you try to rationalize it and get people ( especially your insenstive selfish inlaws) to say it's ok- It is what it is! It doesn't have to be sex to be an affair or the fact that she has kids and a hubby- IT's been going on for centuries. You should get some supportive friends and maybe talk to a counselor. Sorry to be so harsh but it's really obvious from what you said- in my eyes- I guess most people think that this stuff is harmless- that is how affairs start. Sorry I disagree with the rest of the responses..If it bothers you, your husband should care more that you are upset than to having a friend doing instant messages with.
L

You have lots of great perspectives below. I would add that I think you should meet her. Perhaps as weather is warming up here (eventually), you should have her and her family over for a bbq with the inlaws whom she is friendly with anyhow. Let your families interact, and get to know her a bit. I think that meeting her will make a world of difference for you all.

Hello Susan,
Just reading your post tells me your gut is sending you a message. Listen to it! What I would do, which may ease some of your concern is invite the in-laws and her and her family over for a BBQ. The weather is getting nice, have a party. Then decide what you think is going on.

Best of luck,
Catherine

Hello??? SUPER ODD! No one knows that she's happily married but her and her spouse (and in some cases not even then!). But the truth is, even if she isn't interested in persuing him romantically and it just makes her feel young again, she isn't respecting his relationship with you. It's rude and not cool at all. And let's face it. We all like to feel young and attractive and have everything ahead of us. But sometimes lines get blurred and I would be curious why your husband feels that hiding communications is going to help the situation. You're irritated. You know what? You have every right to be curious and irritated about it. He needs to snap out of it himself and pull his head out of his behind and realize that he's not a teenager anymore. If he's going to persue the friendship than he's going to have to be open and communicative about it until it doesn't bother you. Because, let's be honest...if you understood who the players were and what the heck it was all about and where you stood in the equation it would be no big deal. And if your husband can't see that, than maybe he should understand that he is giving you non-verbal permission to act the same way (whether you want to or not).

Communicate, Communicate, Communicate. Meet the chick and become her friend too without being fake.

From my own experience, when I moved home and became friends with my high school friends again I made sure I hung out with the wife because that was his life and where he was and it was important to me. You know what? I talk and hang out with her WAY more and I love it. They have a son just a few weeks older than my daughter.

It's not all you, Susan. Don't put it all on your shoulders. You're the wife. Now demand the respect that you deserve as his life partner (not to be confused with boss).

Good luck!