Spin off of the Spin off of the Spin Off....

well its not an issue because they already paid before eating because if not its stealing so they don't have a choice=)

they definitel would also have to pay for the portion they ate even if it was bad by that logic...i mean technically they may be able to get a refund for the uneaten portion

funny true story
I had a sandwich at a shop once, got halfway through and a piece of hair and plastic in it and when I went and complained they said they were noyl going to refund half because i seemed to have not found a piece in that half and enjoyed that half

I have gotten dizzy with all the spin offs. It's bad at my age to spin circles as revealed by Jim's earlier post. I will say I have yet to see the Produce Cops lurking behind the banana bunches (maybe they ought to be there to patrol for alien bananas like Men in Black but that's for your other topic) so I'll take my chances sampling the produce. If the Produce Cops do suddenly show up, I won't go down without a fight. I will fight the valiant fight for all produce losers who have taken home never to ripen bananas, unsweet strawberries, pithy watermelon, flavorless grapes and all the other unnamed produce offenders. I can only hope they don't taser me over the tomatoes. It could get messy but perhaps I won't need a second trip down the canned tomato aisle for tomato puree. We wouldn't want the smashed tomatoes to go to waste so maybe once they release me from Produce Purgatory I can claim my fresh tomato puree.

My mom works at a grocery store. They WANT you to taste the produce. (OK, I don't think they'd want you to cut a water melon open.) If something is bad, they'd rather chuck it, then have a customer bring it back in and give a refund. They would also rather have thrown away produce, then an unhappy customer. They don't CARE about grapes, and they want to get rid of the bad ones.

Oh, a little tip on bananas. Place them in a paper bag with an apple. That will turn them yellow :) If they stay green for a long time, that means they work gassed. They gad many bananas to turn them yellow. The apple trick work every time!

The difference is you don't just dine and dash. You present the restaurant with the issue and ask/hope that they tell you not to pay for it.

I have no problem with someone asking the store for the grape and deciding not to buy a bunch afterwards. I have no problem with someone returning a bad bunch of grapes to a store for reimbursement (after having purchased them). I've even done that.

I don't really even have a problem with people stealing the grape. I have a problem with people who don't/can't/refuse to recognize that it is stealing.
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I have no problem with asking the store to reimburse you for the lost 2 grapes.

And, J., I'm sure you have lovely melons... ;-)

Oh, lord, we returned an entire freaking table of food at restaurant a couple of months ago. It was absolutely, the worst food we have ever had. Overcooked, dried out, just nasty. My sister, who has worked in restaurants for over 20 years, spoke with the manager and told her we just wanted a refund - we had already had two entrees replaced, and they were just as bad as the first ones out.

Hmmm, since I have never spotted a produce person in Walmart - they are very elusive, I just let my son eat a grape. I really don't get the great grape debate - I don't think one grape is going to bring the entire produce industry to a screeching halt.

But, I do think I will begin asking them to replace the grapes that fall off the bunch during bagging - well less one grape. I smile imaging the confusion on the check out clerk's face.

I miss all the good threads when I am work. Dang.

Ahh... I love ya, J..
But I think you are veering off a bit with the restaurant thing. Many folks mentioned taking the bad grapes back to the store. It is essentially the same as sending back the food at the restaurant, except at the restaurant, you are also paying for value added due to the preparation aspect. And as with my response to the other, I think it is a matter of conscience. I am not someone to go into a restaurant and make a big stink over a side dish being cooked less than perfectly. But if I am paying $20 for a steak that is MR and they bring it to me well done, then I am sending it back. They messed it up. I honestly have never had a steak served to me that was tough. But then, I almost always order a filet, not other cuts.
If my kid just doesn't like their food, too bad. They'll learn to make a different choice next time. If the meat is bad (I tasted it and it tastes like you said--the meat was bad before it was cooked or whatever) then I would say something. Partly, because I would want the restaurant to be aware so they don't serve it to someone else and have a lot of people getting sick. And partly b/c I want my kid to eat without getting sick.

I have been to places that I thought were way overpriced for the food/service, the food was less than great, though not spoiled, and I smiled, paid the bill and left. And never went back again.

Back to the grapes, though... you are assuming that grape is bad. What if it was a good grape?
But anyway, the store I shop at, the grapes are not sold loose. They are in clear ziptop bags. So the bag catches anything that falls off the bunch. :)
And if the bagboy stomps on one that did fall out of the bag (I tie the tops of mine in knots, but... just say one fell out)... then that is on HIS conscience. Not mine. And of course I wouldn't make a scene about it, but technically, I could, since the grapes were paid for and belonged to me. I'm sure the store would compensate somehow, but who wants to go through the hassle?

What I DO get annoyed by, is when you are very careful choosing unbruised apples, and the clerk/bagboy just tosses them around on the metal checkout area with no concern that they cost $2.29/lb and you don't like them bruised. And yes, I have spoken up about that in the past.

I apologize for complaining, tell them my steak is inedible, refuse a replacement, pay the check and never return.

Mrs. On Purpose demands that every item she ordered "on the side" be unmixed and re-separated and the steak re-cooked. Then I pay the check and never return.

The steak issue at a restaurant? You are funny and beating a dead horse. It all depends on how picky you are. I can't remember when I got a meal at a restaurant bad enough to return it for full credit. But I'm not a picky eatrer and am a forgiving person.

Good luck to you and yours.

Oh my gosh J.! I had that exact thing happened with some bananas I bought. It was sometime in April or May. They would not ripen at all. They ended up looking shriveled, but still not ripe. I opened one and made a weird sound almost like paper. Sickened me so I tossed them. I buy bananas from the same store on a weekly basis and have never seen that happen before and so far it hasn't happened again.

As far as taking things back I will do that, but I don't want to have to go just for that and I shouldn't have to. It's a waste of time and gas. I also don't want to wait for a week or two with bad grapes that are going to start shriveling then go to the store with RAISINS and ask for a refund. Lol. OH AND how about the fact that I have gotten home and eaten a couple of grapes THEN discovered they aren't good? How is that better than finding out at the store? AND GUESS what people? When the store refunds me they are not going to say, "Well ma'am you ate a couple at home so we can't refund for those, only for the ones you brought back". Lol! As far as the store knows the couple of grapes people actually sampled may have fallen on the on the floor or in the bin.

It's not different. I have returned cooked meat to the grocery store and asked for a refund, not only for the meat, but Also for the other ingredients that were ruined. Food's not cheap, right? I have complained in a restaurant when the food is bad and received more than one refund. My family has even been know to call district managers for bad service and food. They need to know if the store's not giving good customer service. I have even complained (politely) at the tire store when the estimate to complete was more than an hour off, after they'd already had the car for 5-6 hours and hadn't touched it. Over the top bad customer service. I think they key is, register your dissatisfaction politely and without accusations. Expect to have to pay and be gracious when they take care of the bill for you. If you're not happy with the answer you received from the first line, don't be afraid to talk to a higher authority. Most businesses want your business, but sometimes those working there have forgotten their customer service training. At some point, we're all in the customer service business, so I try to be polite, but firm. Sorry for the rambling ....

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It's not different. I have returned cooked meat to the grocery store and asked for a refund, not only for the meat, but Also for the other ingredients that were ruined. Food's not cheap, right? I have complained in a restaurant when the food is bad and received more than one refund. My family has even been know to call district managers for bad service and food. They need to know if the store's not giving good customer service. I have even complained (politely) at the tire store when the estimate to complete was more than an hour off, after they'd already had the car for 5-6 hours and hadn't touched it. Over the top bad customer service. I think they key is, register your dissatisfaction politely and without accusations. Expect to have to pay and be gracious when they take care of the bill for you. If you're not happy with the answer you received from the first line, don't be afraid to talk to a higher authority. Most businesses want your business, but sometimes those working there have forgotten their customer service training. At some point, we're all in the customer service business, so I try to be polite, but firm. Sorry for the rambling ....

My hubby was the produce guy we bought our fruit from so I knew the answer. I have no problem with taking something back to the store. I have done it with sour milk and funky cottage cheese. But J. you bring up a good point. Now of course every store has different policies but if you ASK alot of store can include that in a write up and get credit from their supplier, but if you take it, it is shrink, and they loose money. I just read you SWH, I am sorry the banana mocked you, bananas are mean like that lol.

If the grapes taste bad, despite ensuring that they look good, take them back.