Pediatricians Who Don't Require Vaccines

Updated on July 12, 2013
F.T. asks from San Jose, CA
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After doing a lot of research and studying about vaccinations, my husband and I have chosen to not vaccinate our kids just yet--if at all. But it's hard to find a good pediatrician who will respect that decision. Many practices don't even allow you to become a patient there. Any recommendations in the San Jose area? (btw, pls don't respond if you're planning to tell me how crazy we are =) We have our reasons!)

Latest update: 3:30 2/4/8: Thank you for the overwhelmingly positive responses. Thought I'd clear up a few things though. First, we don't send our kids to preschool or daycare. And we may even end up homeschooling, so the school/vaccine thing really isn't much of an issue. If we do send our kids to school, they don't tell you this, but you CAN opt out of vaccinations for religious, medical, or ethical reasons. Many out there don't realize this because it's simply not advertised. As a former teacher I know that schools push the vaccination thing and don't tell you your rights up front. It's in the fine print. I've seen it. Also, we are actually currently patients of Dr. Margaret DeVilliers who is great and has respected our choice (after being patients of another doc who accepted us as patients but later became insulting of our decision). We just had to sign a simple waiver and that was that!! I'm only looking again because our insurance has changed. If we don't find anyone else, we'll probably stick with her.

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Thank you so much for all the positive and encouraging responses I received. It's not easy going against the grain, but I received a great many resources from other like-minded moms that really fueled my convictions. I did finally end up seeing one of the parent-friendly pediatricians who was very understanding and low-pressure. She didn't try to rush us and the icing on the cake is that she is in Milpitas (which is very close to us) and accepts our insurance! For those of you who were also seeking a pediatrician who respects parental rights, I'd be happy to provide her information.

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R.B.

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I also do not immunize my children. I have 3 boys 11,6,4 and they are all very healthy. (yes they get the common cold as do most but are very healthy!!!)
I just moved to the San Jose Area and had to find a Pediatrician, so far the one I have chosen had no problem with my choice. She asked if the school was ok with it, and yes all I had to do was sign a release form. I found NEEMA MALHOTRA, MD her number is ###-###-####. Again she did not argue with me when I told her my choice! Did not even ask for my reasons. That was a big plus. I just moved from CO and all the DR's were constantly telling me how wrong my choice was.......I hope this info helps!

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J.M.

answers from San Francisco on

My husband and I are considering the same thing. We are in the Fremont/Union City area and are having a difficult time finding a pediatrician that is supportive as well. Good luck, and I'd love to hear if you find someone!

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L.G.

answers from San Francisco on

you're not crazy. we have 2 daughters and will not ever vaccinate them. Its hard being the minority but hang in there.

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W.N.

answers from San Francisco on

Hi F.,
My husband and I have also decided to put off/probably totally not do vaccines, except for Tetnus when our son is 1 or 2 years old...
It was REALLY hard to find a pediatrician who would go along with our game plan, in fact, we were asked to leave our initial pediatricians practice once she realized that we werenot going to vaccinate...So, after calling and talking with the other 13 pediatric practices that our insurance covers, I was lucky to find a doctor, who recommends vaccines,but would still welcomeus into her practice if we chose not to. We live in Marin, so I don't know if you're interested in further info...but let me know.
There was also another option in Marin, a place called Pediatric Alternatives, a program where you buy into being a member and then pay privately. Maybe call them to see if they know of a group like that in San Jose.

Pediatric Alternatives
10 Thomas Drive
Mill Valley, CA 94941
Phone ###-###-####*
Fax ###-###-####
E-mail ____@____.com

Good luck and good for you for going through all this trouble to protect your son:)
-Wendy

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A.A.

answers from Sacramento on

I almost die as a child from the virus that the HIB vaccine can protect your children from. And that was only back in 1975 and I had all the vacines that were given then. You just never know.

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A.B.

answers from Sacramento on

Good choice, but no advice on doctors

M.N.

answers from San Francisco on

The decision to vaccinate or not is a personal choice. You did your homework, as you should have, and based your decision on research and your beliefs. There is good evidence that the experience of childhood illnesses aid in the development of the immune system. As a homeopath I support your decision not to vaccinate. Usually children with the common illness of childhood can be supported by holistic means such as homeopathy and Chinese herbs. I am not sure where you are located but Dr. Randall Neustaedter has openings in his practice and can refer www.cure-guide.com. It is not true that your children will not be able to go to school if they are not vaccinated. In CA a parent can file a Personal Beliefs Affidavit. Other resources are the National Vaccination Information Center www.nvic.org. I am teaching a free class at Elephant Pharm in Walnut Creek on Healthy Kids and Homeopathy Feb. 14 at 3:30PM. Please stop by and introduce yourself. M. N., CHom. www.myranissen.com.

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C.S.

answers from San Francisco on

I think your decision is awesome! You're very brave! I felt negatively about vaccinating my kids but I didn't know enough or feel strongly ENOUGH to go ahead and not do it. But I have heard a lot of negative things about vaccines. I also feel like the risk of your kids getting really sick is low because of all the people that do vaccinate now, ya know?
Good job! That's all.

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R.S.

answers from San Francisco on

hi i read your article i have a 2 year old son and i was putting on shot."Until i inform myself after my husbend and i decidle no more shoot his doctor tol me she can no longer see him like that can you please give me theinformacion to this office thank you.

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C.M.

answers from San Francisco on

Hi F.-
We are seeing a family practitioner (MD) that works in an office with an ND (naturopathic doctor) and other alternative practitioners. We couldn't find a regular pediatrician that would respect our desision to use an alternative vaccine schedule. My advice is to find a pediactric ND, or a family practitioner.
Good luck!

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C.A.

answers from Sacramento on

VACCINATIONS ARE NOT MANDATORY!!!

I totally understand your decision to not vaccinate your children. Vaccines have changed so much since we were babies. They give way more vaccines and if you check the federal website for death/injury reimbersement from vaccinations you will see that the death and injury claims are increasing every year.

First of all you can sign a waiver that says you have chosen not to vaccinate due to beliefs/medical reasons. The schools must accept the wavier. Secondly it is HARD to find a good pediatrician. I like my ped but he always puts me down for not vaccinating. I would check with a local midwife or doula for ped recommendation.

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M.W.

answers from Redding on

I applaud you on your decision to not vaccinate. I too made the same decision for my 2 boys after doing 3 years of research. While I don't live in the San Jose area, I was able to find a pediatrician who did not pressure me to vaccinate after asking my chiropractor and midwife for a reference. I'm not sure if you have any connections to either of these in your area, but both chiropractors and midwives usually have very good resources and connections to other people who are into more natural healing and wellness. Good luck and stay strong - choosing not to vaccinate has definitely been an uphill battle against the narrow minded, pill pushing society we live in. A great resource for you which you may already know about is www.thinktwice.com and www.nvic.org Hope this helps. M.

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M.B.

answers from San Francisco on

I have been taking grief for 14 years (since my oldest was born) for not vaccinating my kids against Hepatitis and chicken pox. My pediatrician refuses to give hepatitis B vaccine at all and I have had to sign a waiver every time I signed my kids up for school. Not giving hepatitis makes sense--kids only acquire hepatitis through the same channels as they would HIV, yet hepatitis is a treatable disease. The vaccination is more dangerous than the disease.

Also, he doesn't give the chicken pox vaccine until kids turn 13. The reason for this is that chicken pox is also a non-lethal disease and the only way to build the immunity to it is to get it. However, if you get it after the age of 13, it can be deadly, so my older son got the vaccine at 13 because he had never had chicken pox.

While I don't agree about giving no vaccinations, I thought I would let you know that there are other people out there that don't just vaccinate their children without putting some thought and research into it! I don't know if my pediatrician would agree with your decision not to vaccinate at all--but you can always give him a call. He is clearly more "selective" than most doctors, who just require that their patients take every vaccination known to man. I would rather not post his information publicly--if you would like his name and number, shoot me an email at ____@____.com.

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C.B.

answers from Sacramento on

I just want you to know that if you plan on your kids attending public or private school vaccinations are mandatory. Give a quick call to your local elementary and you will see how demanding they are on this issue.

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K.N.

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The current Pertussis outbreak can be blamed on this type of illogical thinking. The loss of herd immunity allowed a disease which had been controlled to reoccur at it's current level.

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A.M.

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Look at Pediatric Alternatives in Mill Valley.

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D.G.

answers from San Francisco on

We followed the same plan, we did not vaccinate :-) - and now my girls are beautiful, healthy 20 and 17 year olds. I took the first daughter for a Salks (dead vaccine) Polio, but it was difficult to find and I only gave her one. I told their schools we did not vaccinate for religious reasons and had no problems. Sorry, I do not have a physician recommendation - I just wanted you to have some support for your decision.

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C.M.

answers from Salinas on

My pediatrician wants our son to get his vaccines, but throughout the last year I've decided against it. So now when we go in for his "well baby" checkups (shot visits, they should call them) when they ask me if I have his vaccination card, I just reply that we are going to skip getting his vaccines that day. They haven't said anything. Good job doing your homework and making an informed decision - I don't know any docs in that area but hopefully you got some good leads on here. Best to you!

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H.R.

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After much research, I also came to the decision not to vaccinate my VERY healthy kids. They are now 9 and 11, and I've never regretted the decision. Our pediatrician is in Scott's Valley, his name is Dr. Resneck-Sannes, and he has always been supportive of our choice not to vaccinate. By supportive, I mean that he has accepted my decision, and never tried to dissuade me. He respects patients personal choices, and for that I have always respected him. Also, I want to add, that my kids have always attended public schools, and we have NEVER had a problem enrolling them, you simply sign a short form when you enroll them, and that's it!Good luck!

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C.B.

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Hi F.. I can't say for sure, but I'm guessing that Dr. Larry Resneck-sannes in Scotts Valley (a bit of a drive, but he's a great doctor) would support your decision. Good luck!

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D.B.

answers from San Francisco on

Hi F..

Although I did have my kids vaccinated, our pediatrician is wonderful and made sure I knew it was my choice. Unfortunately, she is at Kaiser and I don't know if you have Kaiser coverage or not. It is worth looking into, she has been a wonderful help to us for the past 11 years. Her name is Mina Pai and she is at Kaiser Santa Teresa. Hope this helps.

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N.S.

answers from San Francisco on

Hi!
Just some support for your decision!! We did not vaccinate, and our son is so much healthier than his peers. He goes to nursery school 5 days per week, and occasionaly seems under the weather, or gets a cough, but unlike his peers (who seem to get sick for weeks at a time frequently) he fights it off. He has never needed anti-biotics. Have you read a book called "medicine Mom"? It is well written for the normal/ average momma. Not a new-agey hippie-dippie sort at all. Just solid scientific support of homeopathy, related in a nice writing style.
We live in the North Bay, so our doctor is too far for you. Maybe look for a Homeopath in the area who can reccomend a pediatrician who will not vaccinate.
Good luck!

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G.D.

answers from Modesto on

Good for you and your children...I wish I had learned about dangers of vaccines before!!! Both my boy are autistc, and I got boosters so 2 years latter was diagnosed with cancer!!! A friend's daughter has CP caused by vaccination too!!! Love, G.. :0)
P.S. I live in MODESTO and I have a great pediatrician that supports us, GOOD LUCK!!!

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P.C.

answers from San Francisco on

Hi F.:

We too opted to hold off on vaccines until my son turned two...now he's three, and after more info, I'm questioning our decision again. In other words, I'm not sure I want to do ANY MORE vaccines. Our pediatrician never seemed bothered by our decision. She did make a few attempts (not pushy though) at making sure we understood the medical community's mainstream thoughts on it. It could be because he's adopted and already had some immunizations before we got him that it wasn't an issue in terms of being able to participate in her practice.

We're in the Brentwood area, however, so our dr is a little out of the way for you. I did a quick google search on "holistic pediatrics in San Jose, CA" and this dr. in Redwood City came up. I'd check her out if I were as close as San Jose to her (Of course, SJ is pretty big, I suppose it depends on what part of SJ):

Holistic Pediatrics
Dr. Sabina Sonneman, M.D.

950 Woodside Road, Suite 6
Redwood City, CA
###-###-####
____@____.com
http://www.sabinacare.com

The review page I got this from says she is supportive of a decision not to vaccinate.

Good luck
P.

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D.M.

answers from San Francisco on

HI F., I agree whole heartedly with your decision. I don't know about a specific "Pediatrician", but I know a fabulous Licensed Naturopathic Doctor who works with whole families that you could talk to. Dr. Renee Young is in Los Gatos & can be reached at ###-###-####. I am a Certified Natural Health Professional & Certified Colon Hydro-Therapist & Dr. Young & I have a great working relationship. I highly respect her work. Blessings,

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A.A.

answers from San Francisco on

I am sorry so many people are responding with insensitive and some rude comments. You are a capable and intelligent woman. As in birth and all other parental decisions you are within your rights to make that choice. With three homebirths (One footling and one breach) Also, homeschooling my elsest. I know the feeling. (There are waivers you can sign for school. This is the United Sates of America, or just homeschool)
My kids are healthy and have been sick very little. When they are I take care of it, so it does not get out of hand. Most things can be taken care of if you pay attention and catch it early. YOU GO GIRL! I am not in your area, but am sure you can find someone. Email if you ever need some support. God Bless.
A.

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T.S.

answers from Salinas on

I am so shocked that a ped would require vaccinations. Do you have a good family practioner who sees babies? That is where I would start because you have a relationship with them. I love my family practioner, Dr. Peter Coelho. However we are here in Hollister. We vaccinate our children but I know he has some who do not. We don't do hep B and all of the other series we break up so they are not getting vaccinated all at once but several times with less. My husband does not want them vaccinated and I do so that is the compromise. By the way he is also the dr that everyone sends their baby boys to to be circumsized.

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J.S.

answers from San Francisco on

My 13-year-old daughter has never been vaccinated and I have never regretted it - not once. In fact, I believe that not vaccinating has greatly contributed to her strong immune system and excellent health.

It's shameful that pediatricians will not accept children who are not vaccinated. We have the same issue here in Sonoma County. This is highly unethical, in my opinion.

Elisa Song, MD is one of the best pediatricians in the U.S., and I believe she is near your area. She is on Healthy Child's advisory board, and here is her bio:

http://www.healthychild.com/song.htm

Phone :
650.595.KIDS (5437)
Address :
1601 El Camino Real
Suite 101
Belmont
CA
94002

Best to you,

J.

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D.N.

answers from Chico on

Hi. F.. My children are all grown so as a young mother, there wasn't any questions about vaccinating my kids. Today, people are more aware of the dangers out there. Have you considered natural alternative products that would keep your kids immune system at optimum. Take a look at Young Forever www.youngforever.biz Call me and we can discuss in depth. We just had a 1yr old with pneumoni ago on one of our products.

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G.R.

answers from Chico on

Hang in there and keep looking, F.!
We only do rubella vaccine, and took a LOT of heat because my hubby is a nurse and I am a teacher and we didn't vaccinate our children. Each time our children 'caught' something we smiled because we know that now they are 'vaccinated' for life -- naturally!
Remember, you are the patient/consumer. Your satisfaction and comfort are of the most importance. Your children need to feel comfortable as well with each doctor visit.
Schools do NOT require vaccination, and our children attended private and public schools throughout their school lives.
We found a wonderful pediatrician, but it took several months, don't give up.

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L.S.

answers from Fresno on

While i agree with you, F., it will be nearly impossible to get your children into school without vaccination/immunization records. There are plenty of reasons not to do it but that is the one reason that I grappled with...I caved in and made sure my twins have all their vaccinations. Luckily, they have been healthy and had no ill-effects from the shots. Good luck with your search but please be flexible. The worst case scenario would be your children getting one of the diseases or that they would have to receive all the shots all at once, just to get into school. Again, good luck!
your pal, L. S.

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J.Z.

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Dr.Song or Dr. Sabina Sonnemon homepathic ped's in Red wood city amazing!!!!!!

North of the city try Pediatric alternatives - again- amazing!

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N.S.

answers from Sacramento on

If you are a teacher then you should know that they will not allow your children to start school with out vaccination. They also will not be able to enter the military either. I don't blame you for not wanting to vaccinate your children, but are you ready to deal with the outcome?
N. 48, stay at home wife now, but drove school bus for 17 years. Mother of 2, and 2 grandchildren. I see from reading other letters that schools have allowed other children in?? I am not aware of such a policy? Good Luck and those that have not vaccinated, I would love to see how it goes later in life for your children. Not putting you down, and hope all works out.

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S.J.

answers from San Francisco on

F.,
I completely understand you and your husband's decision. My husband said the same thing when our son was 1st born and I didn't understand, I thought well the Dr. knows, but we did hold off on his 1st round of shots. The dr. didn't really like it but he respected it. The would let us know he's behind on certain shots each visit and I would say Next time. I waited until he was a little older to get the basic's. I have still held off on a few that I feel he doesn't need. He's not in Daycare, I know some people think we are crazy for not giving the vaccinations but I started a new dr, and we asked her in the beginning how she felt about the shots and she said it's the parents decision but that everytime that we go to the office they might let us know that these shots are due, but in the long run it's our decision.
I still haven't found a dr. I really like, I changed from Dr. David Safir, I liked him until i started to feel that he was always in a rush to get out of the room, being I am a 1st time mom I had questions and I felt everytime I asked a question I got the same answer, so I changed to Dr. Michelle Loftis, I now feel the same way with her. I feel they don't take a lot of time to answer your questions. SO I feel I am in the same boat as you.
Sorry I don't have the recommendations, I am even considering going back to Dr. Safir. (He's off Samariatan dr. near the hospital.)
Good Luck..

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D.M.

answers from Modesto on

You've probably read some of the same books and resources that we have. We havent vaccinated our children and i have a very healthy 4 & 6 year old. I recommend this book if you havent already read it:
How to raise a healthy child...in spite of your doctor
by Robert S. Mendelsohn, M.D. (Pediatrician). Fantastic and he covers how to handle conditions that your kids werent vaccinated for, in case they were to get something (ya know, typically from the kids who were vaccinated).

I havent found one in my area yet, but i would look for a Naturopath doctor (ND). They will support your decisions, though they may not be covered in your medical plan. It would take some searching if you want to switch docs.

After doing all the research, I put my focus on diet & lifestyle factors that contribute to a balanced immune system, which is what will help them to fight off things. To further support a healthy diet, we take a product called Juice Plus+, which is whole food- 17 fruits, vegetables & grains, clinically proven to help the immune system move into balance, among many other things. My kids take it in chewable form and my husband and I take it in capsule form. If interested, you can check it out at www.JPforNutrition.com.

Hope that helps!

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J.S.

answers from San Francisco on

Try Care First Pediatrics in Los Gatos ###-###-#### Dr. Mellema is a gentle older man and Dr. De Velliers is a nice woman. These pediatricians are good for the minimal stuff like colds, fever, checkups and that's it. Anything more serious than that I get additional opinions and advice from both specialists and alternative med docs.) They definitely want you to vaccinate but will not refuse to treat your child and will make you sign a waiver. Its a sensitive subject to any MD that doesn't support it but you as a parent have to arm yourself with information and as long as you look confident and informed they won't push. Its a very long story but my son was sick and I had to fight off horrible doctors blaming my lack of immunizations for his sickness (not from this doctor-other ones)-had nothing to do with it at all and now he's healthy thanks to alternative care. I plan to take both my children to Dr. Randall Neustaedter's alternative medicine clinic in Redwood City sometime this spring or so but like you I'm in San Jose. he wrote the book, The Vaccine Guide:

http://www.cure-guide.com/Vaccine_Guide/vaccine_guide.html

Good luck!

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J.S.

answers from Stockton on

Do you know other parents who are doing the same thing? Asking other parents the live near you that are also not vaccinating would probably be the best bet because they probably already have found the doctors that will go along with their decision.
Also maybe the regional center in the area may know what doctors are best regarding that since they are supposed to know a lot about autism, and many parents with children with autism choose not to vaccinate if they have other children.

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J.B.

answers from San Francisco on

Go here http://gentlebirth.org/local/resources.html then scroll down almost half way to the section titled "Pediatricians and other Doctors who truly support a parent's right to decline vaccination for their children." You will find plenty of pediatricians listed!

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A.H.

answers from Modesto on

I don't have any specific reccomendations but it may help to try a holistic practitioner. I am not sure you will find any pediatrician who will not vaccinate. I grew up in Humboldt county (hippie land) and we had lots of alternative medicine types.

It's very interesting to me. I have always wondered about parents who don't want to vaccinate. not so much about them, but about the subsequent things they need to do - like homeschool, etc.

Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope you find what you're looking for

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S.R.

answers from San Francisco on

Hi F.;
We have a Ped who does not require shots. Although, she is an immunization advocate, she accepts our decision. E-mail me privately and I will give you her name. My girls are 12 & 14 and have never had a shot. They have much healthier immune systems than their peers.

I can tell you some horror stories about some of my friends who regret giving shots to their kids. They now have children that are horribly disabled because of shots. My best friend lost her 1st child after a series of shots & fevers, which resulted in severe brain swelling ( direct MMR link )

BTW > it's complete BULL that you can not register your kids in school without shots. " They " tell you that to persuade you into giving your children the shots. I can also explain all about the legal waivers you need to file an exemption. It's very easy to do. My girls are registered as exempt. S.

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C.L.

answers from Sacramento on

Hi,
I don't know of any in your area. I don't vaccinate my children anymore either,I did with my first and then I read up on it and I decided to stop part way into my 2nd child. My doctor's office doesn't like it but they still will see us. Every time when it comes up they give me a hard time about it but over the years they have lightened up. I think there are more people opting not to these days.
Good luck.

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S.L.

answers from Fresno on

F.,
I am a Doctor of Chiropractic in Fresno. NEITHER of my 2 children are immunized. They do not need to be. The California Health and Safety code has provisions for exemption. Our first pre-school was private and tried to not allow my son. I showed them the law and they let him stay. When I enrolled my kids in school the blue form that is filled out for immunization has a spot on it for waiver. I chose personal belief. California has religious, medical and personal belief exemptions. On the back of the form you sign the waiver and below it is the waiver to waive the TB test if you so choose. The nurse yelled at me when I delivered that I would never get my children in school. They are in 6th and 1st grade and the healthiest in their classes. My son has missed 1 day of school due to illness in nearly 7 years. My children's public school gave us no trouble whatsoever. In fact the district's website states that waivers are available in the district office. Good luck in finding someone in your area.

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I.C.

answers from San Francisco on

Hi F., Please e-mail me your phone number I would like to talk with you some more about this subject.

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K.C.

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Yippee Of course you are crazy but then again so am I and I must say I feel very good being the kind of crazy I am!!!!! Keep up the good work.
Please feel free to contact me if you need any support!

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C.H.

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I'm sorry I don't have any advise, I just wanted to encourage you to stick by your convictions. My daughter is homeschooled and they said I still had to have her vaccinated. She hasn't had her last couple of shots and I do not plan to get them

P.S. Republican Presidential Candidate Ron Paul plans to have manditory vaccination off the books!!!!!!!!!!!

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Late on this discussion, I know...
It's hard to add to all the points here. I just feel compelled to answer one very wrong assertion, that your child could never join the military if s/he isn't vaccinated. My youngest is now 20. He was born at home, and not vaccinated. I never had a problem getting him into school. It was very simple to sign a waiver. He is now in college on an ROTC scholarship. We know he'll probably have to have at least SOME vaccines before he gets his commission and goes active duty. But we will find out what the minimum requirement is, and meet it, one shot at a time, so as not to overwhelm his immune system. This will result in a much lower lifetime exposure to the toxins and live viruses we would have endured had I gone with the vaccine schedule promoted by the pharmaceuticals. And I feel good about knowing that his level of health is far superior to that of most of his schoolmates in his first twelve years of school, and remains so today.
Quick story: When I took him to a pediatrician for the first time (at age 11 months), the nurse freaked out because he was "way behind on his vaccines." I had already secured agreement with the pediatrician to give him well-baby care, and not push vaccines, but the nurse didn't know this. Anyway, a couple of minutes later, she came in with a bunch of vaccines on a tray. Under the vaccines were a few 3x5 cards, which turned out to be liability waivers. They listed the possible side effects of the vaccines: everything from redness and swelling at the site to high-pitched screaming, convulsions, brain damage and death. By signing the cards, I was agreeing to hold the vaccine manufacurer and the doctor harmless in the event my child suffered any of those side effects. When the doc came in, I commented at how "grim" the list was. He said something to the effect that "these are very rare side effects - but I'm not going to push you on the matter." I thanked him, and then said, "...but before we drop the subject, let's play a game: Let's say that you WOULD pressure me, and I could be intimidated into allowing you to give him the shots - but I refused to sign the waivers, and let you know ahead of time that if my child suffers...especially any of the more severe of these side effects...that I would bring a lawsuit against you for everything you've worked your entire career for; would you still insist on giving him the shots?" He flashed a nervous smile, and said, "Well, no." I replied, "Well then, if you're not willing to risk your practice, why would you ask me to risk my child's future?"
Conversation over.
Of course, it is never my intent to sue a doctor for doing his/her job. I was just making a point. I won't sue, because I won't agree to tests or treatments that I believe hold more risk than benefit.
And for those who believe that vaccines are effective at preventing disease: Actually, good nutrition, good hygiene, proper rest, sunshine, an emotionally stable environment and, for cryin' out loud, FLUSH TOILETS do more to prevent disease than "magic shots" full of toxins and live viruses. Please...do some research!

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Late on this discussion, I know...
It's hard to add to all the points here. I just feel compelled to answer one very wrong assertion, that your child could never join the military if s/he isn't vaccinated. My youngest is now 20. He was born at home, and not vaccinated. I never had a problem getting him into school. It was very simple to sign a waiver. He is now in college on an ROTC scholarship. We know he'll probably have to have at least SOME vaccines before he gets his commission and goes active duty. But we will find out what the minimum requirement is, and meet it, one shot at a time, so as not to overwhelm his immune system. This will result in a much lower lifetime exposure to the toxins and live viruses we would have endured had I gone with the vaccine schedule promoted by the pharmaceuticals. And I feel good about knowing that his level of health is far superior to that of most of his schoolmates in his first twelve years of school, and remains so today.
Quick story: When I took him to a pediatrician for the first time (at age 11 months), the nurse freaked out because he was "way behind on his vaccines." I had already secured agreement with the pediatrician to give him well-baby care, and not push vaccines, but the nurse didn't know this. Anyway, a couple of minutes later, she came in with a bunch of vaccines on a tray. Under the vaccines were a few 3x5 cards, which turned out to be liability waivers. They listed the possible side effects of the vaccines: everything from redness and swelling at the site to high-pitched screaming, convulsions, brain damage and death. By signing the cards, I was agreeing to hold the vaccine manufacurer and the doctor harmless in the event my child suffered any of those side effects. When the doc came in, I commented at how "grim" the list was. He said something to the effect that "these are very rare side effects - but I'm not going to push you on the matter." I thanked him, and then said, "...but before we drop the subject, let's play a game: Let's say that you WOULD pressure me, and I could be intimidated into allowing you to give him the shots - but I refused to sign the waivers, and let you know ahead of time that if my child suffers...especially any of the more severe of these side effects...that I would bring a lawsuit against you for everything you've worked your entire career for; would you still insist on giving him the shots?" He flashed a nervous smile, and said, "Well, no." I replied, "Well then, if you're not willing to risk your practice, why would you ask me to risk my child's future?"
Conversation over.
Of course, it is never my intent to sue a doctor for doing his/her job. I was just making a point. I won't sue, because I won't agree to tests or treatments that I believe hold more risk than benefit.
And for those who believe that vaccines are effective at preventing disease: Actually, good nutrition, good hygiene, proper rest, sunshine, an emotionally stable environment and, for cryin' out loud, FLUSH TOILETS do more to prevent disease than "magic shots" full of toxins and live viruses. Please...do some research!

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