Opinions About Switching Newborn's Formula

Updated on October 29, 2010
A.U. asks from Allen Park, MI
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Hi.. I just had my 3rd baby girl on Thursday 21st. She weighed 8lbs 1oz at birth & was only 7 lbs 12 oz when we left the hospital (Saturday). Right now she is taking Enfamil Newborn formula. She started off pooping the black tar stuff, which is normal ... but she did it often and right away... But thats all normal and didn't bother me..however, around day 2 or 3 when she was rid of the melconin(?) , her poop turned watery .....brownish greenish with yellow chunks.. Her 1st Doc appt was Wednesday (6 days old) and she weighed 7lbs 15oz...which really worried me, but Doc said that can be normal. The Doctor wanted to see what I was talking about with her poop, so when I got home I sent her a picture I had taken. The Doctor was concerned at how many times a day it was happening (5-10 at first), then around 4-6 days old ..it was like 5 times a day.. But then it seemed to decrease in frequency but its still weird chunky poop.. She had pooped in the middle of the night 26th/27th, but nothing during the day on the 27th and she went again this morning (28th) around 9:15 and I sent that picture to the doctor too ( gross i know, lol).. Anyway when the Doctor called last night, after seeing the 1st pictures I sent, she said that it was not normal and she wanted me to switch her to Nutramigen or Alimentum. Our original conversation in the office was that we'd possibly try lacto-free, etc first.. But she said that she didn't like the way it looked and she didn't think she was digesting the proteins, so she wanted to go straight to one of the hypp-allergenic formulas. I talked to her again this morning after sending her the new stool pics and she said that since the frequency was less now we could wait til Saturday to see if the poop happens to change at all... But still from the way it looked (a little thicker but still strange yellowish chunks in brownish color loose stool) she said she still thinks she needs the special formula, but waiting til Saturday just incase. There hasn't been any blood in it, just fyi in case that helps . Oh and please don't respond telling me to try breast feeding, I just had to throw that in there cause I know I’ll get people pushing that... :) I know my Doctor is probably right, but wondering if anyone had similar happen and the outcome? I hate to use that formula if I don't need to, but will definitely do whatever is best for her.. Oh also, my husband’s family does have a history of milk and milk protein allergies .. mine doesn’t, but his definitely does. My other 2 girls didn’t have this, but the oldest was colicky and we ended up putting her on Alimentum and that was wonderful, totally changed her… The 2nd was just gassy and I changed her formula around a bit, but ended up going back to regular similac. Also, I do not want to use Soy
THANKS for your help!
I know its gross but if you want to see a picture to know what I’m talking about and better answer, email me and I’ll send it asap :) ____@____.com

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D.S.

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You will never hear me push anyone to breastfeed, I believe it is personal choice and not for everyone. That being said my daughter had to be put on Nutramigin and it worked wonders. Does she seem to be in pain, or have any discomfort? My daughter was extremely colic and I would have tried anything to give her relief. It won't hurt to try the Nutramigin, just give it a few days to see results, it may take time for the other formula to get out of her system. Good luck on your new baby girl!!!!

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M.R.

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The best thing to do is to follow the advice of your child's pediatrician. Perhaps get a second opinion to put your mind at ease.

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G.B.

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A history of milk allergies in the family gives you every reason to breastfeed, which is perfectly suited to your baby's needs. You'll have to work at it to bring in your milk and teach her how to latch since she's already been on a bottle but you can gradually switch over and that should solve the problem!

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A history of milk allergies in the family gives you every reason to breastfeed, which is perfectly suited to your baby's needs. You'll have to work at it to bring in your milk and teach her how to latch since she's already been on a bottle but you can gradually switch over and that should solve the problem!

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M.W.

answers from Detroit on

Stick with your doctor's advise, they know more then us mom's do!

K.M.

answers from Chicago on

ummm .. odd question I know but does she or her urine ever smell like Maple Syrup?? I saw a medical show once that seemed to have a simmilar idea to what I am reading and the breaking down of protien, or possible lack their of, made me think of this. Could be WRONG but something to take note of if you have not already.
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=1&...

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D.H.

answers from Detroit on

Hi A. :)
It sounds like the transitional stool that all babies have. Some just have more than others. It starts as the thick, sticky meconium; then it turns a watery green with green seedy appearance; then yellow seedy appearance. Is she jaundiced? Most babies get at least some jaundice (almost all). As the baby ingests protein (formula or breast milk), the bilirubin binds to the protein and is excreted in their stool, hence the yellow color. That's a good thing :)
The newest studies do not recommend soy, it has to do with brain development (although that's what both my grandsons have used/are using, and they're fine). The other formulas are ridiculously expensive. The color could also have to do with the iron in the formula. Babies have a hard time absorbing iron for the first 2 weeks or so.
If your other 2 girls were fine with the regular formula, then she should be fine, too. You can always try the Gentlease and see if that helps.
D.

R.B.

answers from La Crosse on

I would try the soy or the lactose free before going to the nutramigen. If you do go right to the nutramigen try the soy or the regular formulas after every 3 monthes. for me #3 was able to take soy at 6 monthes and #4 was able to take regular formula after 3 monthes. It just took their bellies a little longer to be able to digest the protiens. nutramigen will make a person go broke! been there!! If you can get WIC you can get a prescription from your dr to give to WIC and they will help you with the formula. Good luck and congrats on your new addition to your family :)

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D.M.

answers from Detroit on

Hi A.---As a wellness educator, I have learned that cows milk/dairy is a highly allergenic food. The milk proteins are designed to make a baby cow grow up very quickly. Dairy is a leading risk factor for type 1 diabetes, as those allergenic proteins look very much like pancreatic cells and so, in a vulnerable person, can trigger that disease. Please do due diligence and check out these websites: www.pcrm.org, put dairy in the search engine; www.strongbones.org and www.notmilk.com. Another great resource for learning about the relationship between chronic disease and dietary habits is The China Study by T Colin Campbell.

Another result of the classes I am taking is the realization that we have to invest in our health, and that starts with our diet. We have to buy food that is going to give our bodies that best chance at protecting itself from disease. If we do not have enough of the right nutrients, the body will use what it gets for those things it deems most important. That means that it will ignore less vital areas, maybe like skin or nails. It means possible immune system malfunctions, like seasonal allergies.

My last question has to do with why you don't want to use soy? There is MUCH misinformation about soy, most based on faulty research. Good, high quality non-GMO organic soy can be part of an overall healthy diet. People who eat soy on a regular basis have a REDUCED risk of hormonal cancers. The weaker, non-disease phytoestrogens in soy fill estrogen receptors, keeping the stronger, disease causing estrogens out. Research shows that young girls consuming soy as PART of an otherwise balance diet, have a reduced risk of breast cancer, as well as breast cancer survivors having a reduced risk of recurrance. Chick peas and flax also have phytoestrogens in them, but you don't hear anyone warning about consuming them. Anyway, sorry about the soapbox, but the negative info about soy is just plain wrong. Now, allergies are another topic. But, you don't have to take my word for it. If you'd like documentation, I can provide it for you.

Please don't let cost deter you from a food source that may provide your DD with the nutrition she needs. She is still very young and the digestive system very immature. But if she is not getting proper absorption from what she is consuming now, because it is too hard for her to digest, you could be setting her up for health problems in the future.

The classes I am taking are taught by a Naturopath who has her PhD in Nutrition and teaches based on long term research. It is not a matter of the health tip of the day. Again, it is very important to invest in our health, and that includes education. That falls on us to a great degree as most physicians know nothing of the therapeutic power of food. Let me know how I can help. Good luck with your decision making. Be well, D.

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K.M.

answers from Detroit on

You know what in a way you just answered your own ?. Now knowing your husband has this allergy in the family and your one daughter was colicky and the other had a milk protien issue I would automatically switch. But before you switch to enfamil outragious nutrigemin. Try going to similac Sensitive. Theres two kinds check those out I believe there both lactose free. My daughter is on this one right now. Shes number 5 all the others where on enfamil and I had a lot of spitup issues and more I highly recommend Similac. Good luck!

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