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Updated on January 10, 2008
C.P. asks from Euless, TX
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This might be long, but here goes:
My daughter and a boy at her school left the after-school care w/o permission--basically snuck out the back door. They had planned for awhile to do this, and their thought was to go to a nearby fast-food place. Well, once they were outside, of course the door locked and they couldn't get back in--they panicked once they were outside & changed their minds. However, instead of going around to the front of the building, my daughter ran for home--thankfully fairly close--after refusing to run away with the boy. My husband intercepted her on her way home on his way to pick her up. To say he was distraught is a major understatement! He took her back to school and made her tell the whole story to the principal. The boy's mother showed up to pick him up, then she took off & found him shortly thereafter. Here's some background: My daughter is a highly imaginative, very sweet child who always takes up for the outcast...her behavior is normally very good, and she is typically a child who is NOT a risk-taker at all--she refuses to get her ears pierced, for example. The boy has always been a big discipline problem and doesn't have friends. We have told her over and over to stay away from him and anyone else who engages in bad behavior on a regular basis. We know she would never have come up with this idea on her own, and would have never done any of this on her own. However, she went along and was a follower, so for that she has to be punished, and in our minds, we want the message to be one that will stay with her for the rest of her life. Now--what do you mamas who have been there, done that recommend? This has gotta be good, and it's got to stick. Those teenage years are coming fast!

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I want to add, because I knew my original request sounded like I was not placing blame on my daughter, we know very well she went along with the whole conspiracy and planning part of the whole "adventure." But, the kids have already told their stories and the boy admits it was his idea. My request is for ideas on her punishment b/c obviously she needs a punishment to match the severity of her crime. We're not letting her off easy--we want her to take full responsibility & not play "victim."

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S.P.

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9 years old???? You are right to be worried! If you don't nip this in the bud, just think what she could be doing when she's 13, 14, 15 etc. with boys???? You need to hold her fully accountable for her actions and not just assume she was a mere "follower!" These were calculated and bold plans! I would see if you could visit the local detention center or better yet, county jail if they'd let you in to show her the ramifications of leading a irresponsible life. If you can't do that, How about reading tales of the 1,000's of missing children in the Hedi Search Center or Missing & Exploited Children files? Perhaps she can then realize that there is much more than a bag of fries out the back door.
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N.K.

answers from Houston on

I think if this was my daughter, I would have her do some serious research on what happens to girls who run away or are abducted. I know she probably never would have actually run away with this boy, but, as a follower, she put herself in a situation where she could have been in great danger. Once she sees the potential for danger she could find herself in, she might think twice about following the crowd or an individual. Maybe you could have her do a report on it for you, then talk it out together. If she respects her step brother, he could probably talk to her also. Sometimes a talk from a peer does wonders. Bottom line, you want to really impress upon her that it's adamant she think for herself and stand up for what she knows is right.

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B.E.

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Wow. Scary stuff. The consequences should be based on SAFETY. Perhaps you can sign her up for a safety class...where she can learn the dangers of her actions. The reason young people are notoriously risk takers is that they really do not think bad things can happen to THEM. Make it real to her that she can modify her risks! Its in her personality to avoid dangerous and painful things...and you said that she is not normally a risk taker...and I believe you, I have one that way. Which makes me think she really didn't think what she did was so DANGEROUS. I am so thankful the story ended well.
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M.H.

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C., I think you have a very good daughter that made a big mistake but caught herself before actually going for it. She is only 9. You should reward her for stopping herself, for telling the truth right away, for going home, etc. The reward should be a lesser punishment that she otherwise would have gotten. Tell her all this so she understands it, and also tell her that you still want her to think about this incident so that she'e never caught in a situation like this again where peers get her to go for something she knew was wrong. Pick a punishment that is productive like picking the weeds out for 3 weeks, picking up the doggie doodoos, cleaning out the fridge, etc. and keep talking to her about what a great kid she is and that you are disappointed at her choice but that she STILL has your trust because of her quick reversal AND that is HUGE and for that you are very happy! Keep the lines of communication open and don't burn her for this as she is only 9 and she wont be as open if she gets squashed for something she actually stopped HERSELF from doing. It was a bad idea, but she didn't do it. Best wishes.

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A.E.

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Take her out on a date night with her Daddy - just her and her dad. Movie, dinner, pie afterwards. And let him talk with her heart-to-heart. He can have the "Honey - I love you. Some boys are nice boys and will grow into strong men who will take care of you like I have. Some boys are bad boys and will grow into men who are irresponsible and won't take care of a wife. I KNOW you are so smart - please let us help you decide who is a nice boy and who is not someone you want to invest your time in."

He should make her feel like a princess - and remind her that she wants to marry someone just like her Daddy. :-)

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L.B.

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When you decide be sure to reward the fact that she did correct her thinking before she got too far into the plan. For that she should be rewarded. And just make sure she understands how much you love her and value her good judgement. Eveyone screws up from time to time. It's just that her bad decision can possibly cost her life.
I would think some type of volunteer work would be good if there is such a program for her age group.

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A.G.

answers from Los Angeles on

Wow, that sounded scary and glad both kiddos are fine. I hope they both get what they need to help them curb that type of behavior. My twins are 3 and I have my hands full now...hoping and praying they get it all out of their systems now. I wish I had some good advice for you and going to ask my siblings who have older children...I'll get back to you especially to read what other mamas say.

I must add that I taught second grade for a few years and I've also worked in middle schools. You would be surprised by some of the stuff that goes on even with the children we suspect are pretty well behaved. I think the children were bored and I am shocked that no one saw them leave. I would be royally p(*&^ed off at the adults supervising. I also worked in an afterschool program so I know it isn't easy but the safety of all children is important. I would ask those adults to keep the children apart by having them involved in separate activities with other children or adults in the program. Maybe the person in charge could have afternoon activities for the kids once their homework is done.

Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.

BTW, what is the sandwich generation?

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J.V.

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My parents used to make me right a report on what happened and what I learned from the situation. Also they would make me right the same sentence over, and over about 100 times. You could make her right "Stop and think before acting", something like that. Hope this helps.

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T.O.

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I have 3 teens and I have been very lucky that none of them have done anything like that. Though apparently one of them was kind of mean to a friend, which I didn't hear about till the next year, and that totally surprised me. So never think your kids can't perform bad behavior all on their own.

However, having been a teen and having my own, I never ever forbid them from hanging out with anyone. My reasoning is that it only makes the person more interesting. I always tell them I know they have good judgement and that they know I want them to be safe, happy and stay within the rules/values with have given them. I'm hoping this weighs on their shoulders heavily.

If my daughter had done that, I would've asked her what made her think of doing something unsafe and against the rules and then told her matter of factly what the punishment is... like no tv for a week or something. But I wouldn't have made it a huge big deal because teens, like everyone, would try to cover up better the next time if the punishment is too harsh. This is my oppinion. I just don't think you can create a punishment that they kids will go "Oh wow, I'll never do that again!" Instead they're more likely to say "Oh wow, I'll never get caught again!".

So for me it has and remains being about letting them know what I want for them and why and putting the responsibility in their hands. And there are consequences. I just want to keep them talking to me and not feel like I'm not approachable. I have 3 more years for the youngest to make it out of high-school... then I'll be sweating it out till they're out of college.

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L.F.

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I think it is very important to get the details of this 'plan' of theirs. Why were they needed to do this? Is he maybe having some problems and feels he can only talk with your daughter about? She does need consequences, but with the big picture, there me be a real problem that so upsets them both they feel they need to run away from.

No, you do not need to parent the other child, but you may be able to help facilitate communications for him by finding out what's up. Friends are important and feeling like it is you two against the world if there is a problem is sometimes better than feeling alone. If it is just a truancy issue, then limit her time with him and get her involved in other things. If you just say he is off limits and they do have a close friendship you may just push her that much closer to him and any tricks up his sleeve. As consequence, she should have to find other things to do and people to be with, which she can be working on while be restricted - until she has some sort of verbal agreement with you (after a weekend, or week and weekend) of staying away from being alone with him.

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C.C.

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I was the same way your daughter was. Telling her to stay away from this boy will only make her stick around him more. I was the same age when I started getting interested in boys and all and dated the boy I was with untill my senior year, just to spite my mom. I'm not saying to let her be around this boy but explain why your concered. Then ground her take away the thing she loves the best and let the punishment stick. Because if you don't she'll remember and make it harder for you when she is a teen because she knows anyking of punishment from you is not constant. Also explain that you are punishing her because you do care about her safety and are concerned where this kind of behavior can lead. I hope this helps.

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W.C.

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Hi C.,

Just let her take her lumps with the school (are they punishing the kids?). At home, I would change some ground rules and let her know that she has violated your trust and the expectations are higher. NO PRIVACY would be a good place to start (did they plan this at school, over the phone, or internet?) Remove that privlage if possible. Take the door of her bedroom off it's hinges and place it in your room for a month. Make sure whatever you do, you stick to as long as you have set in the beginning NO EXCEPTIONS!

Good Luck

W.

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D.H.

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well For one dont ever asume that it had to be the other kids idea only and not your daughter i have raised 3 two strong will and one compliant one and quess who is giving me trouble right now at 21 yes the compliant one they will do stuff wrong they are just good at sneeking around and usually not getting caught. Your daughter knew because she is smart that she was going to get caught when the door closed and she couldn't sneek back in. You need to give her a good talking too and let her know she's not perfect and there are always consequences to choices made that she can always make her choice but she cant alway choose the punishment. I would give her some chores and take something she enjoys doing away from her for a short time. mom to mom

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K.T.

answers from Dallas on

I'm not really sure on what kind of punishment to advise...definatly do some taking away of privilages and possibly moving her to a different after school program to get away from this boy. Peer presure is hard and it starts early. I remember hating daycare because there were so many not so great kids in there but I didn't want to tell my parents. Plus, I very much have the shy reserved personality but always wanted to hang with the kids that didn't have a lot of money and wanted to get into trouble a lot. I remember one time in particular-my friend and I were supposed to walk to the sonic which was right down the road. We ended up calling an older boy and having him pick us up and we ended up on the other side of town in a HORRIBLE neighborhood scared to death. We had to knock on a strangers door and GO INTO THEIR HOUSE and ask them to take us home. They convinced us to call the police which I regreted at the time but am very thankful for now. Trouble starts early and if you don't nip it when it starts-it gets out of hand very quickly!!!!

Good Luck!

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S.M.

answers from Dallas on

Wow, that is a tough situation. I worked as a Mental Health Counselor for kids that were in trouble with the law. My daughter is now 18 and she started changing her "good" behavior at 16. No matter what I do, I cannot seem to get her away from the bad boyfriend. When she was younger and I would punish her, I would take away the things she liked. For example, her music or her phone. You are lucky that she is only 9. You might want to talk to her about why she would follow this boy. What is it she is looking for? Is it acceptance from him? Does she find him cute? She needs to know that risk taking behaviors are not the way to go. This is the age when girls start trying to figure out who they are. Yes, it is early... but that is the case with what they are faced with in the media, movies, etc.
Make sure you keep an open line of communication with her. She will need to confide in you. I am sure that you will continue to do a great job raising her. Also, keep in mind, that she was scared. This is good because it shows that she knows about what can happen if she does anything out of the ordinary. I wish you the best! I hope this helps...

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A.

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OK, obviously she made a poor choice, but she is a child that you are paying for care for! If you thought she was wise enough to make sound decisions on her own, you would allow her to be home alone after school!! clearly you dont, because you are smart enough to realize that bright and smart 9 year old girl can still make poor decisions. SO, my problem is really with the lack of supervision, the after school care program should hold some serious responsibility here!! Now the other thing that bothers me is that rather than trying to get back in to school, she went home, which although it clearly went well, it just as easily could not have. So, you have to be concerned that if you tell her it is not safe, she wont believe you because her experience taught her otherwise. She should be "punished" for not returning to the place that she should have..school! Maybe you could have her do a bit of assisted research on what happens to kids that are not in the care of an adult, kidnapping etc. You dont want to traumatize her, but she needs to be more scared of being kidnapped than of getting in trouble at school. Maybe she could write a little report after reading a safety book, or watching a safety video for her punishement. And really, you have now seen that she is not supervised there, I would not dare give them another chance to mess this up, she needs to be somewhere else. Maybe an in home provider or something with less children to watch over. Just my 10 cents, but they really should be to blame too!! Good luck, I am sure that it scared you out of your mind! ~A.~

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A.D.

answers from Dallas on

I can't offer much advice other than to lose the idea that your child couldn't come up with an idea like that on her own -- you're not giving her any credit and suggesting that it's all that boy's fault.... you're setting yourself up for a big disappointment... I'm not saying to give her "credit" for being involved... just saying, kids are MUCH smarter than you know... to assume she had nothing to do with the idea or the act... well, you know what they say when you ASSuME...??

I can't say I look forward to the teenage years either -- mother of 2 boys... because I actually was a good kid! Luckily, I married someone who WASNT (boy the stories his mom has shared with me!) so at least between the two of us, I doubt they'd be able to pull the wool over our eyes...but still, I won't assume that they're NOT capable of doing so...

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G.W.

answers from Auburn on

Hi C.,

Well, you've already received quite a bit of feedback on your request and it all sounds very good but thought I would add my thoughts, too. I guess this story hits home with me because I have a nine year old daughter and it sounds like she may have very similiar personality qualities as your daughter. That being said and knowing my own daughter, I'm not sure a punishement to end all punishments is necessary. I have a feeling that the dramatics of the entire situation (the panic of the door locking, the shock at having dad meet her on the way home and certainly the confession to the principal)would be enough to plant a lifelong memory of the occasion into her brain. Now, I'm not saying there should be no punishment, but I feel pretty confident you will not have this problem again anytime soon. I'll share a quick story with you to prove that this can be true. When my husband was 16, he and a friend went into a nice department store in our hometown in AL to hang out. My husband's friend practically dared him to steal a leather wallet and giving in to the pressure to be cool, my husband put it in his jacke pocket (even though he had the money to buy it if we really wanted to). As they were leaving the store, security stopped them and basically apprehended my husband. His mother was called and she came to the store to pick him up. My husband shared with me that when his mother showed up, he felt so much shame that he couldn't even look at her or talk to her. My mother-in-law shared with me that when she got my husband home, he was literally sick in the bed for the next three days (throwing up, crying, just unable to get up and even eat). She knew he had punished himself more than anything she could have done to him. And to this day, my husband is one of the most honorable men of integrity that I know. My point is, if you know your daughter is truly remourseful for what she's done, then I think a simple grounding from tv, friends, etc) for a week would probably be sufficient. Also, my good friend Kelly's daughter did something similiar last year in the third grade. She just didn't go to extended day but instead walked a friend home about a mile away and then walked back to school. By the time she got back, everyone was looking for her because ED had called my friend at work to make sure Peyton was supposed to be out that day. They grounded her and gave her a stern talking to and believe me, she learned her lesson. Anyway, best wishes whatever you and your husband decide. I'm happy that it all turned out well in the end.

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J.J.

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Wow. I got chills reading your letter. It takes me back to some very devastating times in my life. The 'good girl trying to fix the bad boy' syndrome is extremely difficult at least. It was all emotional for my daughter. I never had problems with alcohol or drugs, just emotions. It started at twelve (not to my knowledge) and lasted until 18. I had to send her to Arizona to an all girls boarding school for 'good girls making bad decisions'. It was all about putting themselves first and believing in themselves. Lots and lots of counseling, group and individual and with parents on parent weekends. You are lucky to have a supportive husband. I was pretty much alone in this ordeal. Divorced and an ex that ran when the word 'money' came up. I recommend setting those boundaries and sticking to them. Draw up an agreement with your daughter in writing that can be referred to whenever she starts to stray. Be very open and honest with your feelings, no yelling or over reacting, just talk. Don't argue even if she keeps wanting to. Find girl support groups for her. I know that counseling was extremely difficult for my daughter and myself but we definitely benefited from it. Opening yourself up makes you feel very vunerable but we learned things about each other that never would have surfaced. My daughter is almost 22 now. She is stable, loving and compassionate still, however, she knows her personal limitations. She knows where her poor decisions took her and where she will never go again. I know your daughter is only 9 but who really knows when these issues will arise? You and your husband need to be teammates and be firm. I wish you love,hugs and strength. Oh and by the way, another thing I learned is that women have this great asset called intuition. Use it and when your gut tells you something isn't right, it probably isn't. Best of luck.

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M.B.

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I would just like to add that from here on out and into her teenage years it is good to install in her that she should choose her friends and not let her friends choose her. She is obviously a subordinant (sp?), and there is nothing wrong with that. That is just her personality, but it will cause her to be more of a follower than a leader. Helping her make wise choices and being there for her is most important. She is on the steps of adolescents, and adolescents do not share anything with their parents for the most part. They share all of the personal info with peers, so I would establish an important private realtionship where she feels that she can open up to you now.

Giving adolescents freedom is important and taking it away when they do wrong does wonders. Letting her pick her own punishment might be a great idea. I would pick a punishment and stick to it and once it is over establish a freedom relationship. In this relationship you can leave the door open. For an example(she is too young for curfew but it is only an example), Some parents will not give a curfew to their teens, but tell them that if they violate "it", they will take away that privledge. Even if the teen were to not turn in homework becuse they came home too late could be a violation. Letting her make her own decisions and mistakes is very important, and teaches great responsibility. You are there to help guide the process by punishment and love. The balance of these two are very important.

I hope this helps, and good luck.

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L.T.

answers from Dallas on

I am planning on using the embaressment approach on mine if neccessary. I saw once and will try if I have to 2girls w/thier parents on the side of the road close to their school with a large sign on each of them over their shoulder saying I snuck out of the house and this is my wknd punsihment,I pulled over and asked the parents and they said they snuck out of the house thru the window and this was their punishmnet to hold this sign up on the wknd for a few hrs each day and plus help out at the nursing home volunteering the next wknd and I thought that was such a great idea. they hated it! It wouild be something they would remember Forever over being grounded and all. You could do one for sneaking out of school. I will do it if i ever have too. Good luck to you. Take care. L.

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A.B.

answers from Dallas on

Hi C.,

I don't have children that age yet (and don't think I am not already worried about it), but I was always in trouble as a kid and I want to share that experience with you. I was a very good child until about age 12...then I think I just got bored. The problem was, my parents overreacted with punishment and that just taught me to be sneaky. I would praise her for coming forward and telling you the truth and make a reasonable punishment, but not one to end all punishments. That only made me resentful by the time the punishment was over and any lesson learned was lost. Please take that into consideration when you decide on a punishment. Possibly consider something constructive rather than punishing...such as volunteering at the church, animal shelter, etc for XX number of hours.
Good luck! A.

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M.W.

answers from Dallas on

Do what you will with your daughter, but I would be LIVID with the care program for allowing that to happen and then not even noticing that it did! No, the children shouldn't have done what they did and ofcourse a punishment is needed, but the care program are the ones responsible for making sure the children are supervised. Now, if they've allowed children to leave and not even NOTICE what other things are happening that go unnoticed??

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S.O.

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Have her visit a juvenile center. Let her know the seriousness of her actions. Just like these kids who skip school they put their parents at risk. Let her know that very little sometimes can cause alot of trouble. I have a friend who's 10 year old son would get off the bus at school and walk home and cps got involved and it took her about 6 weeks to get him back because he told the cps officer that his mom makes him stay home. He was confused on what would get him in trouble I guess. Anyway I think you should have her apologize to the teachers and principle in charge or something to that effect. I'm saying that because I know thats the best breaker of kids stealing from stores you have them go back and apologize and they feel remorse then and wont do it anymore. At least thats what happened to us when our mom made us go back in. For one my mom made us pay back more than it cost and I knew it was my mom's money and I felt so bad about it that it broke me from doing again. Now there were times that I would go off where I didn't suppose to go and my mom would be so happy to find me that I'd never hear much but sometimes a butt whippin but when I think about it if my mom had made me appologize to my friends parents for being at their house when I didn't have permission I probally would have quit doing it alot sooner!!!! Anyway hate to keep rambling on but I'd have her have to talk one on one and apologize to the staff that was in charge.

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A.B.

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I have boys, 23, 16 and 3. Also had a step-daughter for while she was 13-17. You tell them over and over until it is ingrained, until they memorize the words and mock you when you start to say it. My favorite wording was, "It matters the company you keep. It matters the company you keep. It matters the company you keep." I always follow that with, "If you hang out with the wrong people, sooner or later you are going to find yourself in the wrong place at the wrong time with those wrong people -and you WILL go down with them." I ALWAYS drill that into their heads at ANY and EVERY opportunity, even if an opportunity isn't even about them.

C., you said, "However, she went along and was a follower, so for that she has to be punished, and in our minds, we want the message to be one that will stay with her for the rest of her life." Did you know that every great leader will tell you that it was important for them to learn how to follow (be a good follower) in order to best know how to lead? I hope you don't send the message to your daughter that following is a bad thing.

My oldest is a leader; he was born a natural leader. I had preschool teachers pull me aside and tell me that. They said that many kids are not natural leaders, only a handful are. They also said I better find a way to channel his gift; to help him lead "his people" through constructive activities, not destructive ones. That was 20 years ago and they were right. Today he is a very successful and constructive leader. Along the way, he too chose his opportunities to explore the psychology of following in order to give him a different perspective on leading.

My point is...you could tell your child that you believe she is a natural leader and that you understand that leaders know they must follow sometimes in order to understand what is and what is not a good leader. I hope you build her self-esteem that way, as you allow her to live through the consequences of making a mistake in judgement of the leader she chose to follow that day. I hope you don't send her the message that following is bad. If she is not a natural leader, that's perfectly okay. The world is always in need of intelligent followers moreso even than it is in need of more leaders. The idea in any case is to respect her choice of leader. By respect I mean re=again + spect=look, ie, look again - and tell her you trust that she will respect the difference now between good and bad leaders. You never know...exploring this subject of leaders and followers without generalizing that one is better than the other, could one day save her from a cult or a bad marriage or a theiving business partner.

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S.M.

answers from San Antonio on

you already recieved a lot of good advice. i think you should let her know that the fact that she tried to reverse her first choice was admirable. i would definitely let the care program know that they dropped the ball! and perhaps you could make an appointment for you and your daughter to speak to a police officer that could talk to your daughter about the dangers, how she could have been abducted. maybe even show her a few pictures of some kids that disappeared. my son was drawn to starting fires when he was about 12 or 13. i took him to the fire department and they talked to him and showed him some pictures of some burn victims. we never had a problem after that. i don't know if it was the pictures or just the fact that i took it seriously enough to take him down there to talk to them! also i do believe that your daughter should suffer some punishment, that fits the crime. perhaps you could ground her from going any where to show her that at this time you can't trust that she will be where she is supposed to be (for a period of a couple of weeks to a month i would say ) and then give that priviledge back slowly letting her know that she is earning that trust back. let her know that you love her and that this is all about keeping her safe from harm. good luck

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J.C.

answers from Dallas on

Well, I havent been there and I dont have much to say. I did want to say though that she showed good enough judgement not to go with the boy. However, there still must be a punishment, so she wont do it again!

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E.F.

answers from Amarillo on

I also have a daughter who is about to be 9. The personalities are very much alike. Youve gotten alot of feedback about punishment and after care program. One thing I stress to my daughter is that being friends with some one doesnt mean that she has to follow them. That being friends with some one is excepting the differences, not participating in them. I remember at her age anything I was told not to do, I wanted to do even more. My daughter is wanting to do things I didn't think about till I was 13 or 14. Of course mine is the oldest of 4, try giving your daughter more responsibility and keep talking with her. The better communication you have now will help with whats to come, and if she is responsible for her choices then the more likely she will understand the consequences.

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F.A.

answers from Austin on

First of all, I am a single mother of three. Two of my daughters are now grown and in college. The third is now in sixth grade. While I believe that every child is different, I believe that there are some things about children that will never change. All children will go through periods of rebellion. I can tell by your description of your daughter that your response is going to be that she is not rebellious, but merely acting in a compassionate way towards this boy, however, rebellion can manifest itself in many forms and most of these ways appear non-threatening or benign on the surface. The mere fact that she has continually disobeyed your initial request to avoid this young man is an indication of a rebellious spirit, because she is in effect telling you that she knows, better than you, who she should or shouldn't hang out with. While this situation short-circuited on it's own, the fact that it made it to the point that it did, particularly since she is only nine, indicates to me that she is indeed strong-willed enough that if left unchecked, this sort of thing will not only repeat itself but get worse.

In my house, my older children rarely went anywhere unsupervised and any disobedience was swiftly and severely punished. Yes I did and do (the youngest) whip them and today I would tell anyone who disagrees with me that they are not only well-adjusted, but they are grateful for the strict discipline they received. That discipline drove rebellion out of my children and kept my older daughters on track and in school. In fact one of them just received a promotion on her job. She is the only college aged employee who has been made a supervisor. In reviewing her work performance, they consistently remarked on how disciplined and focused she has been. When asked, she told them, "Having been raised in my mama's house, I had no choice but to be disciplined. My mama doesn't play!"

I have said all of this to say, you must confront this issue with your daughter and she must be punished for her actions. While I will not tell you that you need to spank her, I will tell you that the method you choose needs to be swift and should fit the severity of what she has done. Let your daughter know that while you applaud her sensitive nature and caring heart, it is your job as parents, to shape that nature and guard that heart, until she learns to make wise decisions on her own. Let her know, of course, that your main concern is that she could have been seriously injured or even killed as a result of this escapade, and that you don't want to see her become a victim of the harsh realities that are out there for runaways. Talk to a counselor at school and see if there are videos about runaway kids or other resources that you all can sit down watch together. This could be a great way to make her think about all of the things that she didn't think about before sneaking out. Pure fear stopped them this time. Next time it may not be enough. I will be praying for you and your daughter... God bless you.

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E.M.

answers from San Antonio on

This is one of my greatest fear for my pre-teen. My daughter is a good girl but has a great heart for those who are "The Mischief". She cares for those who have been misfortune. I will give the same advice I gave to my 19 year old step-daugther and my 11 year old daughter. Bring the friends over so that you can meet with them and get to know them. Get to know their parents as well. Once I get to know my daughter's friends and they get to know me and my rules, they usually become good friends and behave well around my daughters or they leave my daughters alone and hang out with other trouble kids. I do explan to my youngest that there are kids who don't want to change their ways. I do caution them not to be so trusting. My youngest daughter and another girl who was a bit of a trouble maker did almost the same thing as your daughter. Let me tell you, when I found both of them I gave them a lecture that they won't forget. I told them that the next time they decide to leave school without permission, I was going to call the police. I never had problems after that.

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D.B.

answers from Dallas on

As a young girl I was always good, and tended to befriend those who were misfits. While I never did anything like that, the thing I would suggest is to definately make some definate boundaries thar you both understand (ie, not going ANYWHERE with a friend w/out yours and dad's permission and knowledge), and let her know how dissappointed you were in the decision she made to go along with the plan. The thing that drove most of my behaviour growing up was whether or not my parents would be disappointed in the decision or not. I HATED disappointing them. My mom always let me use her as a fall back for getting out of doing something I wasn't comfortable with (I can't cause my mom won't let me) when I was too weak to say it was something I didn't want to do

Maybe you could let her help decide on the punishment - give her some options and ask her which one she thinks fits the crime best. Then, she will get punished and she can know that you were dissappointed in her but not push her away too hard and let her know how important she and her safety are to you. Kids tend to rebel against things that are forced on them, but at the same time, you need to let her know that you have lost some of your trust in her. Don't forget to let her earn it back. You want her making good choices for the right reasons and not making bad choices because she feels you are forcing her to make the "good choices".

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P.S.

answers from Dallas on

Oh the memories! I was a latchkey kid. I came home to an empty house everyday. I did something very similar when I was about her age. Both of my parents were out of town, and I was supposed to meet my cousin right after school at my house. Well she was running late, and I didnt want to stay home alone. So, I left a note with a wrong phone number, told her I was taking my bike and going to a friends house, 10 blocks away! Needless to say, no one was happy with my choice. It took them about two hours to find me, and when they did, their was HECK to pay!

I lost my bike for a whole month, was not allowed to see or play with my friends, and had to come straight home immediatly after school. My parents also put in checkpoints for me to call everyday and let them know where I was.

I say think of her prize prossession and take it away for a very long time. A month was good for me. Or better yet, I always hated when my parents made me choose my punishment.

Best of luck, the teenage girls will be a handful.

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S.G.

answers from Houston on

So if your daughter is as good as you say she is then the embarrasment and the punishment she recievs at school should be punishment enough. I'm not saying don't punish her at home. You should continuously talk to her about "sneaking out" and the dangers that she could face. Take everything away and remind her that she can't be trusted. Make her earn back the trust.

Telling her not to hang out with the other child was probably not a good idea. When you tell your child not to do something for their own good they are going to do it anyway. This kid may have more going on in his home life than you know and your daughter knows this. If he is truly a bad apple then she will find out on her own and you can yell I told you so at the top of your lungs. These are the important years.

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S.G.

answers from Houston on

My husband is pretty creative in his punishments. I have a daughter, 11, she's the only girl out of 6 kids (Brady bunch scenario), but this is his suggestion:
Since she's a pretty good girl, and kind of sounds like my girl - have you considered NOT being home (or at school to pick her up) when she thinks you should be, don't answer cell phones, just make her wonder where you are and why you aren't answering. Of course, you will want to be nearby - possibly even somewhere you could see her face, the anxiety of it. Then when you show up and she says "Where were you?!" You can explain to her that it's really scary when someone isn't where they are supposed to be and how worried or even angry you can get when that happens.
Hope it helps. My girl hates being alone even at age 11, esp. when it's dark out and I may be running late. She's on the phone "Where are you mom?" She wants to know when I will be there...so they get worried!

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L.P.

answers from Dallas on

I think you daughter shows great kindness in taking up for the underdog. I also think that she showed great courage in telling you the truth right away. I also think that she got pretty scared, otherwise I don't think she would have told you the truth. I am not sure that any punishment can out weigh the scary feeling she had. If I were you I would do something to do something as a consequence and not make it so rough. Then beyond that I think you just need to do what you do, cause it sounds like you are doing a good job of making her aware of right and wrong choices. So basically you need to reinforce the fact that it was good for her to make right by her wrong. Maybe to help her better understand the ramifications of not making good choices, you could have her volunteer in an environment where she can see examples. Good Luck!

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