C.I.S.P.A Was Passed but No One Seem Worry

Updated on April 22, 2013
E.C. asks from Brentwood, NY
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C.I.S.P.A /CISPA was passed mean Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act
CISPA permits police to do warrantless database searches Amendment was shot down that would have required warrants before police could peruse shared information for any evidence of hundreds of different crimes.
I do nothing illegal online or anywhere but seriously looking thru person info with no warrant
I guess the 4th Amendment are out the window
4th Amendment says
the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized
ARE you worried or am I the only one??

Edit Am not a criminal or anything my internet searches are boring mostly home remedy stuff or mom stuff. but image getting people to go thru all your computer stuff like personally pic/searches that you save online in private profile or like the Cloud things- (there plenty of ppl posting their birthing videos n pictures but I rather mine not get seen -thank u very much) I mean Amendments are there for a reason what next you take my freedom of speech?? No thanks –I can say what I please and own a gun. I love that am not being watched 24-7.

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So What Happened?

I can say what I please and own a gun. I love that am not being watched 24-7.
But the sad part is that thisis for now-
its just seems like there taking our freedon away slowly- now there trying to see what ur doing later there just block u from being able to do it =[

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no one knows.
They've been putting stuff like this through in this administration since day 1.
They use things like this bombing and the newtown shooting as diversion.

" never let a crisis go to waste" - Rahm Emanuel

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M.O.

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I'm worried, to the (limited) extent I've been paying attention.

I've only skimmed the other responses briefly, but I can't help but suspect that they picked an insanely busy news day and passed this thing under the cover of distraction.

(I mean, I don't suspect a widespread conspiracy, exactly, but I can see one or two aides or lobbyists or something saying "You know when would be a really good time to vote on this thing? Right the hell now.")

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C.C.

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The Supreme Court opened the door to this with Kentucky v. King a few years ago. And now, because they know they have a green light to trample the 4th Amendment, the second people are looking the other way (in this case, the tragedy in Boston), the House passes a law restricting our 4th Amendment rights. Call your representatives; let them know you're upset about this. And then in 2014, VOTE. After Citizens United, the only power we have as ordinary people anymore is to vote out the people who refuse to do their jobs in Washington.

ETA: Love the people who think this is just about what we post on Facebook or Mamapedia. With this law, ANYTHING online can be looked at by law enforcement without a warrant. Your bank records. Your medical records. Your kids' school records. Your social security records (which also keep all of your salary information). Those records are kept digitally. Still think it's okay?

Here's a list of representatives who voted for this act, including a link to their contact information. Call and yell at 'em, folks: http://gizmodo.com/5994997/every-representitive-who-voted...

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We beat CISPA once but didn't it pass around the time of the Boston tragedy? Hmmmm . . .

Yes, I am worried, and not because I have anything to worry about. I just care about the 4th Amendment.

ETA: Interesting info here: https://www.eff.org/cybersecurity-bill-faq#cispa. CISPA arguably applies to more than just public info you post on the net.

ETA2: Great ETA Hell on Heels!

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E.N.

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They are ignoring the Constitution and the Amendments. They act like they don't pertain to them (govt).
They have tried this in other administrations, but they are pushing harder than ever.
Remembering what I learned in a social studies class in college, we are in the decline and will eventually be under marshal law and after the apathetic people decide that they don't like it anymore we will disintegrate into mob rule as it will be our only option. Many cultures/nations/societies go through this cycle.
I don't want to. I want things to get better without the getting worse first part, but I doubt it will happen. It will be the distruction of our nation. I don't think it will ever recover. At least not in our lifetime. Our current administration wants and admits that he wants to "level the playing field" so we are not a super power anymore. Then, when others can overtake us because we no longer are powerful and all our weapons and secrets are no longer ours, they will. We will cease to be America, the land of the FREE and the home of the BRAVE.
It is possible that we will be blasted back to the -well, maybe not the dark ages-, but not too far from it.

in response to Jackie P: They are. Check out these links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWUB4MCLsHg

http://www.infowars.com/proof-boston-marathon-bombing-is-...
E. C.: it isn't slowly. It's fast and has been happening for many decades. It is faster now than ever because of the available technology. It is scary as hell. Read the Harbinger byJonathan Cahn

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I wasn't aware the internet is a portal of privacy.

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L.U.

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I am not worried at ALL.
Who cares if I am looking at youtube videos about whales that eat small dogs or type in Lane Bryant Bra sizes? No one.
BUT...if some wierdo is looking up "how to make bombs" or "little girls having sex with men" then I WANT them to get caught. Those things are illegal and they should be caught.

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When I consider the potential evil that could come from a law like this, yes. I am worried.
It is not so far fetched to think that in the not-to-distant future, govt could use this to access what you google, thereby gaining access to things about you that you would rather they not be privy to.
Need an example? You are pretty sure you have cancer (insert another ailment here). You google it, support groups, etc (remember, HIPAA protects your health info from everyone, incl govt). Govt can now access your "suspicion". They determine you are a risk for high health costs, so your coverage is cancelled (remember the health care your govt offered?). Now, they don't TELL you its because they accessed your google searches...they come with some "other" reason you don't qualify...

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V.B.

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They are also about to push through taxing all internet transactions... but nobody is paying any attention...

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D.K.

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Way more concerned about this than about the government 'coming to get our guns'. Apparently the fourth amendment doesn't have quite the support (and $$$$) the second amendment does.

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J.M.

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i dont get it. its public information. so how is it a violation. anything i write or say in public can be used against M. if i did something illegal without a warrant.

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While people were fighting over gay rights to marry the government passed a law on GMOs. It seems to be that the only time Congress is productive is when something takes everyone's mind off the law. In this case, the bombings. So sad.

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We all know that anything we put on line is open to anyone, not just the police to see. Does this law change that? Is there a way to make Internet information not accessible? I wonder why it's being considered.

Anything that we write using the computer but not on line is not accessible is my understanding. So what is there to worry about?

No, I'm not concerned because I know the Internet is accessible to everyone. I would suggest that we would have to change the way the Internet works to make this law meaningful.

I know I'm over simplifying the issue. And I think I understand it's important to debate this issue. Perhaps I'm just not as concerned as I should be. I'd need much more information.

I agree that there must be good policy about it's use for the law to be safe. For example, as a police officer, I could not search the law enforcement data base without having a good reason to do so. i.e. I couldn't just look up my neighbor for my own interest.

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No you definitely aren't alone in this one!!! Its hard to want protection from others, and not have your rights taken away by the Government at the same time. I think the CISPA are being extreme, but they are also being "careful" with the wording of this.

I know I am NOT a Terrorist, but who's to say that the play dough recipe I looked up last month for my son's science project didn't flag/signal a threat to the government...does that give them the right to invade my privacy on such a loose translation?!? Absolutely, so now my rights are all taken away, and now who is being violated???

(Don't get me wrong, I know I am be far-fetched when I speak about "play dough recipes", but its not entirely impossible either!)

Stay vigilant and active on this it hasn't become a law yet, so we still have the opportunity to fight against it, and get better protection all around.

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C.V.

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I'd like to read it. See where it says "warrantless database searches."

I just can't see it passing if it gives free reign for law enforcement to just cruise around and look at whatever they want. There's a lot of PHI online. What about the laws in place already protecting my information?

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I agree with you many of our rights as americans are being taken away bit by bit and nobody seems to care. Yes I want to be protected from terrorism but who is going to protect me from the government if they pass laws that take away my freedom? And usually these laws are passed late at night with few people knowing of it and the media virtually ignoring it. I just don't know what can be done to protect those things we have fought so long to have.

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First of all it only passed in the House. It still has to go through the Senate and then be signed into law.

Second - its not ALL internet traffic. I hate when people go on rants and start fear mongering and getting everyone riled up without reading the facts or getting their info straight. quite frankly it's irresponsible.

CISPA has NOTHING to do with looking at YOUR internet searches on where you buy underwear or what you read.

UNLESS you are a *terrorist* or are searching sites known to be trafficked by terrorists. THEN all bets are off and they can look at anything they want.

The 4th amendment to the US constitution guards against UNREASONABLE searches and seizures.
CISPA appears to do NOTHING to change that.

Also - I found this interesting - mostly REPUBLICANS passed this bill

House vote on April 26, 2012 passing CISPA
Affiliation Yes votes No votes Did not vote
Democratic 42 140 8
Republican 206 28 7

The Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA) is a proposed law in the United States which would allow for the sharing of Internet traffic information between the U.S. government and certain[specify] technology and manufacturing companies. The stated aim of the bill is to help the U.S government investigate cyber threats and ensure the security of networks against cyberattack.

CISPA is an amendment to the National Security Act of 1947, which does not currently contain provisions pertaining to cybercrime. It adds provisions to the Act describing cyber threat intelligence as "information in the possession of an element of the intelligence community directly pertaining to a vulnerability of, or threat to, a system or network of a government or private entity, including information pertaining to the protection of a system or network from either 'efforts to degrade, disrupt, or destroy such system or network'; or 'theft or misappropriation of private or government information, intellectual property, or personally identifiable information.'"[14] In addition, CISPA requires the Director of National Intelligence to establish procedures to allow intelligence community elements to share cyber threat intelligence with private-sector entities and encourage the sharing of such intelligence.

Due to the opposition the bill has experienced, the co-sponsors are planning to amend the bill to address many of the concerns of its opponents — including limiting its scope to a narrower definition of cyber-threats, and stating that the "theft of intellectual property" refers to the theft of research and development. In addition, there will now be penalties if private companies or the government uses data from CISPA for purposes "unrelated to cyberthreats.

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M.H.

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I can see both side of this, but I am a good natured person, with nothing to hide and I dont think like a criminal etc..

Take the bombing case right now, any person that knows those boys the police now have the ablitity to "help target/find" the accompolices. that can be good espeially if they are able to stop anything that can hurt others.

For the wrongful minded authorities- to just be searching peoples things it is a shame.

If I were to be handed a warrant to search my place/things I have nothing to hide so warrant or not I would allow them to search. But it is also with the knowledge that they are going to do it.

Sadly there is so much evil in this world, it make me shudder in disbelief.

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I think what I do that is on my computer only should be protected but not anything on the Internet. It's original name of World Wide Web says to me that it is public. I was never aware that anything I do on the Internet should be considered private. When you are on social media it is akin to mingling in public with friends. When you shop it's like being at the mall, a public place. I don't expect my privacy to be protected in public area I choose to use.

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