13 Year Old Dizzy Spells

Updated on February 26, 2016
S.A. asks from New York, NY
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I took my 13 year old daughter to the doctor for dizzy spells. Her head will hurt, her hands have shaken a few times, and she has passed out for the first time last week. The doctor drew 7 vials of blood but the only thing showing up is slightly anemic, which she is now taking a Flintstone for (Dr suggested). My husband and I both had the dizzy symptoms as a child but not the headaches and the hand shaking. The doctor told me it was a fluctuation in my blood pressure from laying to standing, which was the biggest case for me. I now have vertigo that plagues me at least twice a month to where I can not function until it passes. I am only adding my scenario in just in case it could be something hereditary. The doctor has basically said nothing is wrong that he can see and if she passes out again to take her to the ER. I know I am not speaking to a medical group, but has anyone had the same situation? She is not anxious about anything, which is what the doctor was also trying to say. She's a happy girl who does well in school and has plenty of friends. So that is not the case. Anyway, thanks for your help.

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Thanks, everyone. We still don't have any answers. DD had a CT scan done Monday but we are still waiting to hear from the scan. After the scan, I will keep pushing for answers. Thank you!

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M.S.

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My 13 yr old son has dizzy spells for the same reason you did. He did see a couple of drs for this. He's very tall and thin and it takes the blood a bit to make it all the way up to his brain. He hasn't passed out or gotten headaches but his vision has gone dark for a few seconds. Her hands may be shaking because of an adrenalin rush? Just a guess. To be safe I would get a second opinion.

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My daughter has experienced this since age 12. She was diagnosed with Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome, (P.O.T.S.)or Inappropriate Sinus Tachycardia (I.S.T.). It is NOT a heart defect, or a heart condition. It is a neurological management problem. Dysautonomia is another possible reason, which my daughter also has.

Here's a "picture" of sorts that one of her doctors gave us to understand what's going on, in kind of analogy. Suppose you have a meal planned. You have all the ingredients in the pantry. It's time to cook. But instead of going to the pantry, you run out and buy all new ingredients, even though the ones in the pantry are identical, and in excellent condition. That would be silly, right? That would be poor management of resources.

Well, when we stand up, or digest food, or move rapidly, our brains sense this and tighten certain valves in certain veins, direct the heart to pump accordingly, and send blood to the right place, like up from our legs to our heads so we don't get dizzy. When people who have P.O.T.S. or I.S.T. stand up, or do something sudden, or turn their head quickly, there is plenty of blood in their veins, their heart and veins work well, (like having all the ingredients in the pantry) but instead of diverting blood from the legs to the head, the brain says "oh, more blood is needed in the head, or in the abdomen" and instead of drawing it up from the legs, it just goes and gets more from the wrong places (like going to the store for all new ingredients when you already had them). As a result, the person feels dizzy, nauseous (sometimes), shaky, and passes out or falls.

The kind of doctor who manages this is called an electrophysiologist. That is a cardiac specialty that deals with heart rates and electrical issues of the heart. A cardiologist usually isn't any help because the heart is normal. It's a management issue.

You can do your own test, which is super simple, but ONLY if you know how to properly take a pulse, with your fingers on the inside of the wrist. Either google it and practice it or ask a friend who's a nurse or trained in taking pulses correctly.

Here's the test. Have your daughter lie down, flat, in a very relaxed setting. Make sure she has not just eaten a large meal. Have her lay on something that she can easily sit up on, like a bed without a railing, or a comfy couch. She will need to be able to sit up and place her feet flat on the floor in step 2 without any inconvenience. Step 1: she lies down quietly for 15 full minutes or even a half hour. Quiet music playing, no tv or heavy metal music, no phones, no interruptions. After ten minutes take her pulse and write it down and do it every 10 minutes for the half hour.

Step 2: Then have her immediately stand up, without using anything for support, and take her pulse. Be prepared - she may get dizzy, so make sure there are people on either side of her. Take her pulse right away and every minute for about 5 minutes. If her heart rate raises more than 30 beats per minute after standing, then P.O.T.S. is a possibility.

It's called a "poor man's tilt table test". You can look it up and read about it. A tilt table test is ordered when P.O.T.S. is suspected, and it involves laying flat on a board that tilts up, recording blood pressure and heart rate and evaluating how the patient feels, and then the board is tilted to simulate standing (but the patient is strapped in securely and being monitored). A specialist needs to order it.

My daughter takes a beta blocker which regulates her heart rate, and she has learned not to do certain things, like jump up from a chair, or get up quickly out of bed, not to eat too large a meal (the brain sends blood to the abdomen while digesting), and not to turn too quickly. For some reason, if she suddenly raises her hand over her head, like to quickly turn on an overhead light switch on a ceiling fan, she'll pass out, so she doesn't do that. Ever.

Anxiety does not cause this or worsen it. There are many reasons why it happens. My daughter had a few serious viruses right in a row that triggered some long-lasting issues. Nothing usually shows up on a blood test. The tilt table test is the only reliable diagnostic tool, but the do-it-yourself test works to show if you should pursue this. Plenty of fluids help, as does eating salty food. Yes, salt helps pool the blood in the veins and helps expand the veins and the blood flows more freely, and most P.O.T.S. patients eat salt tablets, drink salt water, drink water with electrolytes. Salt tablets (Thermotabs is one brand) are available at pharmacies (behind the counter), and online. My daughter didn't like the taste so we fill empty gelatin capsules with unrefined salt and she takes a couple if she feels dizzy. She went through a cardiac rehab program at a major hospital, and all the other patients were quizzed about whether they had controlled their salt intake that day. Not when they came to my daughter. She'd say "I had a hot dog and fries" and the nurses would say "good, you can exercise today" and all the other patients would groan with envy. The other thing that many P.O.T.S. patients do is to consume electrolyte drinks such as marathon runners drink, that contain sodium, potassium and minerals.

Please feel free to message me if you have questions. We've been dealing with this for 10 years now. Oh, Inappropriate Sinus Tachycardia and Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia are basically the same thing, just a different term that different doctors use, and the treatment is basically the same.

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Couple of thoughts.

I have a neurological condition and have the Dysautonomia Elena mentions below. But as a teenager, I had dizzy spells.

I was anemic (just slightly) but everyone's normal is unique - so for me, it was a cause. That and low blood sugar. It hit around puberty. So I was told to up the iron (same as you were told to take vitamin), eat more iron rich foods, up my salt a bit, and eat regularly. Water. That was my big one - water and snacks - but healthy snacks. I used to just keep a 1/2 pb sandwich on whole wheat in my bag.

When I went on birth control pills later on, it stopped. So I think it was worsened by hormones.

I developed migraines later in life. At first they were what they call "silent migraines". My biggest symptom was suddenly feeling like I had to lie down. I would shake. I never passed out fully though. Laying down avoided that. I can get vertigo with mine - which my father did also. I did eventually develop headaches. But not always.

I also went to ENT to make sure it wasn't an inner ear imbalance.

I have also seen a cardiologist as we have heart murmurs in our family too.

So those are just things to keep in mind. I would track what time they happen, if she's menstruating when these happen around her cycle (mine is just before my period especially but sometimes mid month), and if she's eaten/what she's eaten, how much sleep she got, stress, etc.

That way you have a record that gives the doctors more info.

Hopefully it will just pass and isn't anything more serious than puberty and anemia. Good luck :)

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This happened to me in high school a few times over the course of a couple months. The diagnosis was anemia, low blood sugar from not eating regularly and just being really tired. I was given pre-natal vitamins for iron and I had to focus on eating more often and consistently. Funny story....after my doctor lectured me intently about eating right I ran into him later that afternoon buying a large bag of m&ms and a big gulp from 7-11 for lunch. We both got a laugh out of it.

Does she have her period yet? If so, I could see where her period hitting coupled with already being weak due to anemia causing her to pass out.

I hope your daughter's issues are easy to resolve and she gets better soon!

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T.F.

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Keep documentation exactly when her symptoms occur... What she was doing, eating, etc

My daughter,21, was just diagnosed with SVT.. heart irregularity.

It's scary going through a diagnosis. Hopefully, the blood workup can give you some answers.

My daughter is seeing a cardiologist and is on RX with a heart scan due in a week. Since her first ER trip in Jan., she's kept records of when the episodes start, about to start, etc . She tracks what she was doing, eating, etc. Document everything

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V.B.

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I would also be curious about the timing of these episodes. Has she gotten her period yet? Do you know if there is any correlation with her cycle and the symptoms she has? Did they draw blood after fasting and test for diabetes? Low blood sugar could account for some of the symptoms, but if they didn't have her fast, her results might not be accurate for that, I think?

I hope you get some answers.

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N.B.

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This was a neurologist, right? Pediatricians aren't supposed to treat everything. They specialize in childhood illnesses, but they don't specialize in many other things.

T.D.

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get a second opinion. you need a better answer on the cause.

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get a second opinion. you need a better answer on the cause.

L.L.

answers from Dover on

My one thought with dizziness and now passing out is diabetes. My sister started having similiar issues when she was 16-17 and was finally diagnosed. It can also explain headaches that goes with it.

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