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VBAC Vs. Repeat Cesarean

At 42 weeks I was induced and I had to have a cesarean with my 1st child after 15 hours of labor and I only got to 5cm and my baby went into fetal distress. I was stuck at 5cm for about 6 hours. They also found meconium and the cord wrapped around her neck. As well, they said my hips were too narrow to fit her size - 8lbs 12oz. I am pregnant again and due in December 2008. My doctor is suggesting a repeat cesarean because of my failed progression. She says women that don't progress are the worst candidates for VBAC, but it is totally up to me to try. She has personally seen babies die and mommies lives in danger because of uterine rupture. They have 3-5 minutes to open you up to save the baby, but the baby is without oxygen in those 3-5 minutes and anything can happen. I have read everything from childbirthconnection and vbac.com and various other things about vbac vs. repeat cesearean. What I want to know from you is your opinion, your experience, friends experience, etc. Why did you end up having your 1st cesarean and what was the outcome of your vbac?

Also, I don't think I could handle the pain without an epidural so add that into the mix with a vbac. I tried no epidural the first time and lasted 8 hours and I was done with pain!

What can I do next?

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After 10 hours of active labor and 1 hour pushing at home on my own bed, we welcomed our little boy into this world. All natural home birth after cesarean! It can be done - we did it!!! :)

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I am a senior midwife student and a former NICU Respiratory Therapist. I have worked in high risk labor and delivery. I now attend homebirths and will open my own practice in 2009. I have been to many VBAC's and the majority have been successful. We went to a VBAC homebirth a couple of weeks ago. The mom is a labor and delivery nurse. In the 10 years I have been attending births in and out of the hospital I have never seen a uterine rupture. It is extremely rare and usually open happens when a mom has been induced or when there is a single layer closure or when the classical c-section was done. The reason you had a failed induction was due to your body not being ready to go into labor. It has nothing to do with you being able to have a successful vaginal birth. Also, an epidural can have a lot to do with slowing down progression. You need to be able to move around and try lots of position changes. I had my second at home and was in labor for over 16 hours and spent most of that time standing up in the shower. The warm water is natures epidural.
You should visit this website: http://www.ican-online.org/. This website has a lot of great information and studies on VBAC's. You should also read these books, Silent Knife and The Thinking Woman's Guide to Better Birth. Have you considered hiring a midwife to be your care provider? Studies have shown time and time again that birth with a midwife is safer and healthier than birth in the hospital. If you have any questions please feel free to ask and good luck with your decision.

L.

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It really sounds like your doctor is trying to scare you into a repeat c-section. Do what you want but you're not a good candidate and I've seen babies and women die from uterine rupture...Give me a break! I'd drop kick that doctor so fast his/her head would spin. At a time like this you need good, solid, unbiased, research supported medical information, not fear based scare tactics.

My c-section happened after 10 hours of labor for failure to progress. Never mind that first time mom's can take 24 hours or more to give birth with no problems. I never got past 1.5 cm and yet they broke my water and inserted a internal fetal monitor on the baby's head. Even though the strip never showed her heart rate leaving the "normal" zone they told me they didn't know how much more the baby could take. The way they worded it, I all but begged them to cut me open and get her out. Afterwards they told me her cord was wrapped around her neck and leg...thank goodness they "saved" her.

After all of the incompetence I endured with my c-section, I was traumatized and vowed to never let that happen to me again. I went on to thoroughly research vbac and evaluate myself if I was a good candidate or not. Low transverse incision, no infection after surgery that may have affected the incision healing properly etc. Then I looked into ways to increase my odds of having a normal vaginal birth. I was determined to avoid unnecessary interventions like induction and augmentation of labor, continuous fetal monitoring, early rupture of membranes, movement restriction, nutrition restrictions during labor. After speaking with my ob/gyn I realized there was little to no chance of me being sucessful in a hospital setting. I found a homebirth midwife to help me and made a back up plan. I went on to deliver a daughter at home after 21 hours of labor. It was amazing to me and yet completely boring because there was no emergency anything. Just a completely normal, boring birth process. Eighteen months later I hbac'd again and gave birth to a son after only 6 hours of labor. No hospitalization required.

I recommend that you do not blindly accept what your doctor is telling you and look into it further. His/her motivations may be very different than just what is in your best interest. Don't have major surgery just to cover the doctor's you know what. Homebirth was my solution but it may not be yours. Look at the ICAN website for more sources of information.

What's sad to me is that doctor's think they should be able to force us to do what they think is best. I think they should give us all of the information without bias and fear mongering and let us decide what risks we are willing to assume.

Blessings.

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Just a couple suggestions.
Find a copy of Pushed: The Painful Truth About Childbirth and Modern Maternity Care, it's a very interesting read.
Also, if you haven't yet seen Riki Lake's doc. The Business of Being Born, it's worth a viewing
I think today's doctors have their own agendas which aren't always in our best interests. Seems to me mother nature knows what she's doing. Let's not forget c-sections ARE major abdominal surgeries
Best of luck to your family!

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My first was a vaginal birth.. my second a C Section because the baby was large and breech....my third 22 month later was a C Section....... I did not want to take any chance of anything happening to my baby or myself.... I was totally awake during both my c sections.... I WOULD NOT TAKE A CHANCE WITH THE BABIES LIFE OR MY OWN. I was almost 32 when I had my normal deliver and 36 when I had my last C Section.

J.

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Why would you even consider risking it? Have the c-section!!!!!

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1st cesarian for failure to progress (I'm a doula and studying to be a midwife. Now I see that the signs all pointed to occiput posterior position.) She was induced after 24 hours since my water had broken but I got stuck at 7 cm for 7 hours. They went in after her.

Second baby born at home!!! Best decision I ever made!!! Don't let people scare you. I can reccomend midwives and tons of resources. There is a birthing center in town with the most incredible midwife in the universe, close to a hospital.

There is a book called THE THINKING WOMAN'S GUIDE TO A BETER BIRTH which spells out the stats on VBAC. I'd read it from cover to cover if I were you. It outlines all the procedures in birth and their statistical impact.

Birthing in a hospital is almost always more dangerous than at home. The World Health Org. does not reccomend repeat C-sections just for the sake of repitition.

There is an incredible amount of misinformation out there, perpetrated by doctors who are afraid of liability suits. My own OB/GYN told me that. He encouraged me to try a VBAC, even though he lost me as a patient because he was honest and told me why he wouldn't attend it. He had done tons previously but in 1995 there was a lawsuit no now no dr. in San Antonio will do them! I love that he was so forthcoming with me.

I labored for 44 hours with my second. He was born by candlelight in my bed in the presence of peaceful, loving people. We're perfectly healthy.

Please e-mail me if you want more information at ____@____.com VBAC in the subject line so I don't delete your e-mail before I read it.

I wish you peace in this journey and Congratulations!!!!

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I saw your post and just wanted to encourage you to find a doctor who is supportive of YOU. Here's the thing, they are very quick to say that women have "too small" a pelvis...but it is actually EXTREMELY rare. I am a doula - and I spend nearly all my time in the study of birth related topics. What I have found is very disterbing...doctors get a whole lot more money for a whole lot less work when they do a cesarean. There is a huge amount of pressure on doctors from their peirs and from INSURANCE to NOT allow VBAC. But a repeat cesarean is major surgery and actually holds more potential for harm to mother/child. MANY women are told they have too small of a pelvis with their first and go on to deliver vaginally...a much larger 2nd baby. It is a statistic of about 3% of those who are diagnosed with CPD that actually do have it. Generally you have to have been in a serious car wreck or been very ill as a child to be unable to deliver your own baby.

As to the epidural...I HIGHLY recommend that you get a good doula. I know that it may seem like tooting my own horn, but the difference is amazing!!! REALLY.

You might want to contact ICAN also, just for information and support!!! http://ican-online.org/

How much do you want a VBAC? ONLY you can decide that, but once you decide...then you can find the right doctor and the right hospital and you can get the support you need. But it sounds like your doctor is trying to scare you out of your dream, and it is wrong of him (in my oppinion).

I hope you are able to get all the info you need to make the right choice for yourself...no one else can define that for you, so please don't let them.

-R.

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I would recommend a repeat cesarean. I am a mother of 4 boys and although my first delivery was vaginal I have had to have cesareans with the other 3 due to me stopping at 4cm each time. Although I have tried for a vaginal delivery each time even though the doctor has strongly suggested a c-section. I think by you having a c-section just 21 months ago is a bit soon to try vaginal as well. It is a great risk for you and the baby if you take that chance against VBAC so I would say just have the c-section

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