Two Miscarriages

I have not experienced this, but my sister did after having her first child. It took her four years and at least 4 miscarriages before she had my nephew. It was very difficult on her, but her children are now entering college and are very healthy. GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!

Hi E.,
I am terribly sorry to hear your pregnancy frustrations. Both of my closest friends have had multiple miscarriages. One of them went so far as to clean out her house of chemicals- they do have an effect on your health- cleaning supplies, bath and body products, etc. If you would like more information on the cumulative effects these things cause, I would be happy to share that with you. I do not want to scare you but it is definately something to look at.
L. Mangan
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I am sorry to hear about your losses, E.. I have had 2 miscarriages and an etopic pregnancy. Have you been checked for low progesterone? Dr. John Lee "created" progesterone creams that are all natural and the treatment worked for infertility also. There are some guidelines for what is the best cream to use. I found a great yahoo group regarding this with tons of great information. There are 35 signs of being estrogen dominant/low on progesterone...one of the symptoms is infertility! You can join the group here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HormonallyHealthyWomen

Create a beautiful day!

My first marriage I had 3 miscarriages now over 10 years later in my second marriage my husband and I had to use IVF to conceive. We now have a 15 mo. old boy.

The one thing we learned through the IVF process is the uterus has to have a certain lining thickness which is created during ovulation for the embryo to attach. This is created by progesterone, a natural female hormone. Through vaginal ultrasounds they could measure the thickness and once it reaches a certain thickness they felt confident in moving forward. Had my lining not reached a certain thickness they probably would have informed me that the embryo(s) may have a problem attaching to the lining. In short, after my transfer I remained on progesterone for an additional 2 weeks to support the, what we hoped had taken place, pregnancy. We found out 8 weeks later I was pregnant.

Blocked tubes was the reason for not being able to conceive naturally. I can tell you that hormones and even a lack of certain vitamins in our system can cause a pregnancy to fail. B12, B-6, Progesterone levels, and most importantly get a sufficient amount of folic acid in your diet if you plan to continue. I'm not sure if this is helpful to you but we found it interesting that an embryo has to have a snug place to cuddle in for the long journey until it attaches by the cord and knowing a mothers hormone levels make a difference in the support of a full term pregnancy. One other important and yet hard thing to keep in mind, once the test is positive, don't stress yourself with negative thoughts. I dear friend of mine miscarried twice and she remained in a distraught frame of mind. She used very low doses of fertility drugs to help with conception which failed. Once she let go and realized it was out of her control and stopped the drugs, they were pregnant 8 months later. They now have a daughter. Stress is dangerous.

If you have not gone to an endocrinologist may I suggest a visit? Although our OBGYN doctors know the female body they are not all knowing when it comes to hormones and infertility.

My sister had a similar experience. She had no issues with her pregnancy when she had my nephew. When he was about 3 years old, she and her husband started trying again. After suffering 2 miscarriages she found that she had antiphsopholipid antibody syndrome.

http://www.medicinenet.com/antiphospholipid_syndrome/arti...

Once she found this out, she was able to give herself injections during her 2 other pregnancies and she now has 3 children, my nephew and two nieces.

You might want to have your dr. check for this, it could help!

I hope this helps, take care,

J.

don't get discouraged. I have two healthy children and I have had two miscariages. I miscarried at 6 weeks with my first pregnancy. Then I had a healthy baby boy 2 years later. We decided to have a second child and I miscarried at 11 weeks. Then we did get pregnant again and I just had a healthy baby girl 5 weeks ago. Who knows why we miscarry but I think taking Ibuprophen (Motrin) caused both of my two prior miscarriages. I read in a parents magazine that taking Motrin early in pregnancy causes the embroyo to not attach to the uterine wall. Hang in there and good luck!

HI E.

I have also had 2 miscarriages (one in 2001 and another in 2002) before my daughter arrived. I never thought I would have a healthy pregnancy and now my daughter is almost 2 1/2. It's a scary thing but they are quite common. I found comfort talking about it and I had to learn how to stop blaming myself. Right now my husband wants another baby, I am not so sure I'm ready yet. He works long hours and I find myself alone most of the time, so I am essentially a single parent.

When the time is right, it will happen. Let your mind and body rest and heal and then you will know when it's time.

A.

My sister in law had the same problem and her OB gave her Prochieve,(progesterone gel 8%). You insert it in the vagina once pregnant and it is supposed to help everything stay in. Not sure on all the details but having the name of the cream should help in asking. My niece is due in November!! Good Luck!

I had two miscarriages as well. My problem was never the ability to get pregnant it was the ability to sustain the pregnancy. My first miscarriage was a molar pregnancy, my second was normal. What they found out to be the problem is my progesterone was low. It was a simple hormone inbalance. I began taking chlomid, estrogen, and progesterone and once pregnant, continued progesterone through to the third month. I have been told this is a common problem. You may want to look into it.

E., first of all you must trust in God, maybe God has something else planned for your life right now that does no consist of having another child, you may not see it now but he will reveal it to you later. Just trust in the lord because what you want for ou may not be what God has for you.

Trust him he will direct your path.

Hi E.,
my first pregnancy was a breeze too (he's almost 6 now), then 2 miscarriages followed (week 10 and week 13). My OB/GYN told me to come straight in when I get pregnant again so he could prescribe Progesterone pills right away. They are supposed to help keep the pregnancy, I took them for the first four months and everything went fine. I ended up on bedrest from week 26 and some different medication later on to keep contractions under control (plus 3 hospital emergency visits for stronger IV medication) but we made it to week 37 and I do have a wonderful almost 2 year old boy now. Modern medicine is making so much progress, they might have even better pills than I got two years ago. I wish the best of luck to you, N.

Hi E.,

So sorry to hear what you've been through. It hurts really bad.

Since you are a Bradley instructor, you probably know about natural family planning...

Have you read
FERTILITY, CYCLES, AND NUTRITION by Shannon, Marilyn?

ENHANCING FERTILITY NATURALLY, by Wesson, Nikki?

Both are available through the La Leche League catalog.
http://www.lalecheleague.org/catalog.html

I wish I could offer better advice.

Best wishes,
T.

Hey,

My names is M. and I had a similar experience. The only thing that my doctor said was for me to try to live healthier, but that is because I am very overweight and I am sure that that has nothing to do with you. However, I understand your frustration and I hope you the best in the future with conceiving and having another healthy pregnancy. I wish that I could be more help.

We do not understand nor know God's plan in our lives. God knows all, which means that something could have been wrong in which you did not know about. The time might also not be right. I was always a "girlie girl" and wanted a little girl. However, I have three boys. They are the most wonderful children. My brother finally had a little girl and I spoil her rotten. I am not sure as to why God did not give me a girl, but I am sure he knows way more than I. I hope that this may have helped and may God bless you in a special way.

I am sorry for your pain. My experience is not the same as yours but I have miscarried and I know the pain.
My mother had one child and then two miscarriages before she had me so hang in there. She also had no real explaination for the misscariages which can be very frustrating.
God will answer your heart the way He sees fit and He will never give you any hardships that you can't overcome.

I am so very sorry for your loss. I understand where you are coming from. I had a very successful pregnancy with my son. It took 7 years to get pregnant with him. Since then, he was born 9-2003, I have lost 4 pregnancies. One was a very horrible tubel. Mine are considered bad luck but I do have some other issues that have contributed to this. Hang in there.

You might want to give Abby Miller a try. I don't personally know her, but a collegque of mine who is also a massage therapist as I am, told me that one of her clients used acupuncture to get pregnant. It's worth a shot. Good luck

Abby Miller
3810 Ingersoll Ave, Ste B
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http://www.balanceandbuild.com/case.html

Oh dear-I am sorry to hear of this.
Here is a website that has a slew if info. regarding this issue...hope it helps.
http://medicalreporter.health.org/tmr0397/miscarriage0397...
and this one too:
http://www.pregnancyloss.info/causes.htm
Good luck-
A.

I can't imagine what that was like. I'm still trying to get baby number 1 so I'm hoping that I never do know what that's like. Are you near Indianola? Just curious. :-) ...nevermind... I just read your profile and saw the Davenport there. I'm a bonehead sometimes... don't mind me! :-)

I'm so sorry to hear of your misfortune!
Personally I would ask about progesterone in the early months after two close MC's.
What town are you near? You should find a DR who will listen to your worries AND help you medically.
M.

Hi E.,

I'm sorry about your losses. I have a friend, Jason who is a doctor and he sometimes recommends progesterone therapy for women who have had miscarriages. It is the hormone that our body makes in abundance once we ovulate. The hormone level stays high when we achieve pregnancy. However, in some women the hormone level stays low or drops and it is sometimes connected with miscarriage. Anyway, he and his wife (Debbie is a nurse and works alongside her husband) now live in Cincy. You could contact them at ____@____.com to find out more. Debbie's email is: ____@____.com

HI, DONT GET YOUR HOPES DOWN. MY NAME IS T. AND MY FIRST PREGNACY WAS IN 2001 HAD A MISCARRIAGE. THEN I HAD MY MY SON LATE 2001. THEN TRIED AGAIN IN 2003 HAD A MISCARRIAGE THEN I HAD MY SECOND SON IN 2003. AND THE NURSE IN PINEVILLE SAID AFTER MY FIRST MISCARRIAGE THAT MY HUSBAND AND I ARE BLESSED TO HAVE HAD MY FIRST SON. LOW AND BEHOLD. WE HAD OUR SECOND BOY. AND PREGNACY WAS FINE AND EVERYTHING WITH BOTH. SO PRAY AND DONT GIVE UP. WE ARE GOING TO TRY FOR OUR GIRL SOON. IM TAKING MY PRENANTL VIT. NOW. GOOD LUCK!!! T.

Hi E.,

I had 2 healthy pregnancy then I got pregnant with my third. I was 10 weeks pregnant and had a miscarriage. I became pregnant about 3 mos later. When I found out I was pregnant my dr put me on Estrogen. I took it for the first 5 mos. I delivered a healthy boy. I got preg again and the dr put me on it again for the 1st 3 mos. I again had another healthy baby. It was basically extra precaution who knows if I needed it again. I will keep you in my prayers. Maybe you can talk to your dr about it. Hopefully this helps.

I too had 2 miscarriages, so I know what you're going through. I insisted on having my hormone levels tested when I became pregnant again, & was prescribed progesterone. I've since had 2 beautiful children! I lived in Greenville & had a very understanding OB. Now his practice does testing after 2 miscarriages. You just have to be very proactive with your medical care - try researching progesterone. Good luck!

Hi E.,
My heart goes out to you. It's an awful thing to endure through miscarrages. No other pregnancy will be the same without the fear of a loss. But have faith and persue through the fear an the pain. Nobody knows in your position weather things will go smoothly next time or result in a story of infertility.
I to suffered miscarriages. My first pregnancy occured with no effort. I miscarried twins at 12 weeks. My second pregnancy I lost at 6 wks. Both were devistating. Since I was over 30 I didn't have to wait for a third miscarriage. I went straight to the reproductive endocrinologist. My problem was I have a subclinical thyroid dysfunction. What that means is My thyroid levels test normally when I'm not pregnant but when I get pregnant my ailing/failing thyroid couldn't keep up. Since the thyroid is responsible for stimulating the hormones that support pregnancy I would miscarry. Hense I was also deficient in progesterone (a Luteal Phase defect) which was treated with progesterone supplementation. I was (according to the medical books) 3X more likely to miscarry. I could always get pregnant on my own but I just couln't carry.
So I went to a reproductive endocrinologist (do your homework get one highly recommended) also before you go check your insurance to see if you have infertility coverage. I enrolled in health insurance coverage with my hubby and at my work (I was working full time) both policies had infertility benifits. I had intrauterine insemination (iui)and conceived twin boys. I lost my son's twin at 20 weeks but retained my son. It was a scary pregnancy because I could have lost him too. I cried until my son Nathan was born by c-section after a horrendously long labor. He is wonderful!!!!
My daughter was conceived naturally and was supplemented with progesterone and thyroid hormone (synthroid) until she was born. She was a c-section too because she was breech.
It was worth the pain to endure but the emotional part was so hard. My best advice is if your over 30 go to a fertility expert. Also go to INCIID.ORG (I believe it's the web site if not google it)it is the best support group for women on the planet. The organization also recommends infertility experts in your area. I would have never made it if it wern't for them. You don't even have to be diagnosed with true infertility in order to participate in their message boards.

Best of luck

B. Schneller

Hi E.,
I know a woman who also had two miscarriages, also. She found a Bible study called Threads of Hope, Pieces of Joy very helpful. She said it was available through Amazon. I hope you find this helpful.
Blessings,
J.

Dear E.,

My good friend has also had several miscarriages. She has two little ones ages 5 & 3...and now is pregnant again. Since she wanted a new doctor, I sent her to my OB/GYN and because of her history of miscarriages, the doctor immediatly put her on Progesterone Suppositories for several months and she has not had any complications and the baby is doing well. I would go to an OB/GYN doctor and ask them about the Progesterone Suppositories. You may also need to be monitored by a high-risk specialist and still use your midwife. Midwives are wonderful! I will pray that your next pregnancy will go smoothly. If you need to reach me directly my email is ____@____.com Care, A.

E.,

My husband and I had a similar experience. We conceived our daughter with no problem 5 1/2 years ago, but since then I have had a couple of miscarriages. It turns out that I developed an allergy to progesterone, the hormone that holds the baby in the womb. I received a treatment for progesterone in early June and I'm now over 7 weeks pregnant, which is the furthest I've gone since our daughter. So, there is hope. :)

I have had allergies all my life and received traditional allergy shots and prescription medication for over 18 years. These are not a solution. Earlier this year, my daughter and I started NAET treatments. Instead of injections, you are exposed to the allergen, given a non-invasive accupressure treatment and then avoid the allergen for up to 50 hours. After the successful treatment, you are no longer allergic to that "allergen." The best part is that you can receive treatments while you are pregnant and the baby also receives the benefit. I'm hoping this will prevent the severe colic my daughter had as a baby for the next baby.

To learn more, visit www.naet.com.
Good luck!

Dear E.,

I have not had any personal experience with miscarriage, however I am a registerd nurse working in Obstetrics for ten years now. I have consulted with many women in your shoes, and can concur with your midwife and doctor. They typically do not start any further testing until there has been three miscarriages in a row. I know that information does not help the way you are feeling right now, but maybe this will: When you decide to get pregnant again wait at least three months between your last pregnancy. This will give your body time to heal and rejuvenate. Remember to take your prenatal vitamins regularly to help that process. Then once you get a positive pregnancy test call your midwife or doctor and request a progesterone level and possibly a quantitative HCG level. Progesterone is needed to sustain a pregnancy. If your level is low, and sometimes we never fully know why it is low, it is easy to fix with a supplementation of progesterone either in pill form or in vaginal suppository form. The quantitative level will give a number for the midwife or physician to follow. Typically this number should double every 48 hours. For instance, if your number is 50 then is should be 100 two days later. Since, you are using a midwife, I would assume you are more holistic in nature. This, is the more medical way of thinking, but still relatively benign in terms of invasiveness. I hope this information helps. Remember, it never hurts to be pro-active in terms of health care for yourself.

E.,
I completely understand your pain. Even if intellectually you understand that miscarriages are commom, emotionally it's incredibly hard to lose two babies in a row, and to not start worrying that something is wrong with you. I know, I've been there. I did have to have Clomid to get pregnant with my son, but had a wonderful pregnancy, had a drug-free delivery, and was ready to do it again a year later. I too had two miscarriages in a row. The first pregnancy was another Clomid pregnancy, and we spent about six weeks in limbo, seeing a heartbeat, then seeing a heartbeat that didn't look strong, then seeing no heartbeat, and I had to have a D & C. About two months later, I found out I was pregnant- a complete (and welcome) surprise. This one went the exact same route- uncertainty for weeks, followed by another D & C. A few months, along with some very deliberate measures by my OB, and I was pregnant with my younger son. It went great, and now, with a 16-month-old, we are getting ready to welcome another surprise in March. I look back on my miscarriages and remember the incredible pain (crying on the stairs so my son and my husband wouldn't see me), and then I look at my son, and realize that the new life we have on the way just seems like a complete miracle- no fertility drugs, and I am sicker than I've ever been with any of my previous pregnancies (I don't know about you, but I didn't have much nausea with the pregnancies that ended in miscarriage), plus we've seen a really strong heartbeat. I know that when you are hurting it is incredibly hard to think that there is something to learn from the experience, but I look back now and know that I was meant to have our Jack, and had either of those pregnancies worked out, he never would have been a part of our lives. I don't know your history or much about you, but if your midwife and a doctor say that it was probably just "bad luck," then I have a feeling you'll go on to have another beautiful baby soon. Try to enjoy the time you have with your daughter one-on-one for now, because when you do welcome another baby into your lives, it all changes.

By the way, I think it is awesome that you are a doula! I had a doula at both of my births (at Community North), and am nervous this time around because I am going to have to deliver at Clarian North (because of a change in insurance and having to find a new doctor), and they do not have doulas on staff. My labor experiences were just wonderful, and I am completely grateful to my doulas. I've thought many times about getting certified myself. What you do is just so wonderful, and I'll bet that the women you support through the miracle of childbirth never forget you.

Best wishes. I'll be praying for you.
C.

Hello, I just thought i would drop you a note and let you know I have been thru the same thing.
My husband and I got married, I already had one 2yr daughter. My husband was in the Navy at the time so we wanted to have a baby soon so he would be home for the birth. we found out we were prgnant in march and i misccaried on his birth day May 24th then we tried agian in and had another miscarriage
a few months later my deea husband was home on leave because he had mono sooo bad, anyway we got pregnant during that time and had Autumn the next march I had 2 more miscarriages and had a son almost 2 years later.
Thats my story for what ever it is worth.
G.

a friend of mine has also had 2 miscarriges they found out the only way she could carry a baby is to have surgery on her uteries to hold it up that was what was causing hers so talk to your doctor and have a sonagram to see if that is the problem

I have had one miscarriage, and since have not tried to get pregnant again. I do have a very good friend who suffered 9 miscarriages before she was able to sucessfully carry a child to full term. She did require assistance from a fertility expert, and utilized invitro.

There are so many reasons women miscarry and not all of them are health related, but I would go to a fertility expert and have them do some tests, usually the reason a women is either unable to get pregnant or to keep the baby is because her hormone levels are unbalanced and you might need to just take some natural progesterone or maybe even estrogen to get leveled, but only a doctor will be able to tell you. I think it would be worth a shot. Also don't stress about it too much, I know that doesn't help and can sometimes be the cause. So take some time to relax and just enjoy what is around you. If God has given you the desire to have another child He will bless you with one, when He is ready. I will pray with you that you are able to conceive and carry to full term.
S.

I have been through the same thing. My 1st pregnancy with my son was so easy everything went smoothly. About 8 months after he was born I found out I was pregnant again. I was so excited! When I was about 10 weeks pregnant I started spotting, my Doctor wanted me to come in for an ultrasound, so I did and they told me I was having a miscarriage. I was so upset, but I just thought it was a fluke. About 5 months after that I found out I was preganat again. This time I was more nervous but I figured everything would be okay. They checked my beta levels and they did not double, so my DR told me I was going to miscarry again. I could not believe it. How could this happen again?? I tried to come to terms with only having one baby. I got back on the pill because I did not want to deal with the pain of miscarrying again. Well in May of 05 I forgot my pill a few times and in June we found out that we were pregnant again. I was so scared. I called my DR and wanted to get in right away. I went to my appointment, they did an ultrasound and we saw a tiny heartbeating! I was so happy! Although I was scared through this whole pregnancy, in Feb of 06 I had another healthy baby boy! Now I'm leaving things in Gods hands, we are TTC baby #3. I'm having a hard time getting pregnant this time.

I really hope you have a healthy pregnancy soon. Do you have any idea why you miscarried? I had one empty sack and one just stopped growing (they told me there was probablly a genitic flaw).

HI E., I know exactly what your going thru. I miscarried four times before I had my twins. The Doctors also thought it was a string of bad luck, but after my 2nd my ob suggested I see a specialist, and even then, the first specialist just kept on doing more and more test. But I switched specialist, I saw leo Bonivontura, and he was great. I guess, every situation is different, but I would suggest seeing a specialist, because miscarriages are extremely difficult and emotionally draining, so I wish you the best of luck, and know that God always has a better plan and his timing is PERFECT.
Good luck

My sister had some similar problems. She has an inherited genetic reversal of two chromosomes - my grandmother passed it down. Perhaps you should speak with your doctor about genetic testing before you try to conceive again. It could save a lot of heartache to know -- she had a 25% chance of any pregnancy ending in miscarriage. I had the testing done and am not a carrier, so my girls can't have this. However, her two girls must have the testing as they get older to determine whether or not they are a carrier. I think her reversal was the 13th and 26th chromosome.

E.,

Your profile says you're in Davenport, IA, but the topic line at the top of the page indicates you live near my area (Georgetown, KY). If you live in Davenport, please disregard the following. However, if the latter is true, remember that we are but an hour away from the military nerve gas depository in Richmond, that it has leaked in the past, and that the miscarraige and cancer rates in this area are significantly higher than, say, Louisville due to the close proximity. And the closer one lives to it, the higher one's chances of miscarraige, esp if you drink well water.

E., I had two MCs before having my son (6 yr old). My issue was low levels of progesterone. When I was pregnant the third time, doc put me on natural prog. cream suppositories (not progestin - synthetic....) for first trimester and it worked. After having my son, my prog. levels went even lower....periods were erratic, hair loss 2 yrs after birth....I sought our a natural progesterone cream and since using it, periods are normal and hair loss stopped. It's not unusual to have low prog. since we are exposed to so many xenoestrogens. If you want more info, let me know.

I wish you luck and I will be praying for you. I have a 3 year old son and miscarried in Jan. and I am preganat again due in Jan. If you want to talk I am here. B.

I have not had my own experience, but a colleague of mine has. She had two miscarriages and after the second one, they found some abnormal cells in a pap test. She had them removed, and she just had another babay about three months ago! This is not to say that this is what is going on with you, but just to let you know that a lot of women have two or even more miscarriages before having a perfectly successful pregnancy. Now that I am thinking about it, another friend of mine also went through two miscarriages between her first and second children, and she now has three. Good luck to you!

E.,

I am very sorry for your losses and understand that it's got to be the toughest thing to endure. I have not personally gone through this but am surrounded with friends and family I have supported through it. I do not have any personal advice I can give, but wanted to share a website that I support for those who have suffered these losses. www.october15th.com I personally hold a candlelight vigil with friends and family every year in October in remembrance of the angels we've lost. I pray that you do not have to endure this painful event again, and I will add 2 candles at my next vigil for your angels.

A friend of mine in Atlanta had a similar problem and she consulted an herbalist. They test blood, hair, and skin samples to see if there are high levels of natural pollutants in your body. For example, one person that consulted this person was drinking several canned drinks per day. I guess there is some sort of chemical on the can which did not agree with her body chemistry. Not sure if it works, but I guess this guy had a high success rate. My friend did go onto have another child after seeing him. I don't know if there are any similar type herbalist in the area, but I imagine with the amount of doctors that we have in the Charleston area, there must be some sort of alternatives. Best of luck.

E., I understand what you are going thru. My husband and I have been married for almost 6 years. I had my first miscarriage in 2000, then another in 2001. Finally, I had my daughter in 2003. She will be 3 in October. However, last November I found out that I was pregnant again...we were SO excited. But, just this past June--about 8 weeks ago, we got horrible news. I had developed some sort of infection in my placenta and amniotic fluid and I my baby boy was stillborn. I like you, am just wanting a normal and healthy pregnancy. My doctor told me that the infection that I had was 1 to 5000 moms. talk about BAD luck!! However, things happen for reasons, usually reasons that we don't know or don't like. Most likely it was just a string of bad luck and don't give up on trying again...we aren't either

God Bless
T.

THE LORD KNOWS BEST ,AND REMEMBER YOU WILL SEE THEM AGAIN IN HEAVEN. I KNOW IT HAS TO BE SAD BUT JUST KEEP IN MIND THAT THE LORD JESUS SEES THE WHOLE PICTURE. AND THAT YOU WILL SEE THEM IN HEAVEN WHERE THEY ARE AT...J. N