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Trouble with and Between My Teen-aged Son and Husband

Hi,

I am married and have two children from my previous marriage. The issue centers around my son, who will be 14 next month. Six years ago when I married my husband, my son showed some adjustment problems. He also has ADHD and had some issues in school. It looked like he had finally gotten past all that. To my tremendous disappointment it appears he has not.

This weekend, he mouthed off first to me, at a time we had company over, that I was neglecting him and he was tired of being mistreated by me and my husband, and he's tired of our "bullcrap" and our "droning on" during family meetings...etc. I do not tolerate disrespect and told him I would speak with him after the company was gone. My husband and I have worked very hard to give both my children a good, stable home with extras that we certainly did not have. We do expect my children to do certain chores and keep their rooms neat, and I do not feel that we have to defend that. I can't convey in words the look on his face or his tone of voice when he said what he did. I waited a day to talk to him because I was that upset.

Before I got to him, my husband wanted to give him a heads-up that he really had "screwed up" with me. My son then went off on him, telling him that he mistreats him, that "I'm not your kid", and many other hurtful things. My husband has no children of his own, and has treated my children as his in every way, working very hard along with me to make sure they have what they need. He couldn't love them more if they were his own biological children. He is so deeply hurt that he can't look at my son and last night was even ready to walk out on me. The last two summers we have sent my son for one month to sleep away camp and my husband is now saying "not out of my money". My husband tends to hold onto his hurt and anger for a long time. I realize he needs some space and some time to feel what he's feeling. I do believe that another incident like this will probably send him walking.

We were in counseling early in the marriage. While neither of us liked the marriage counselor, I was the one who terminated it and looked for someone else. The person I then found indicated that she felt we each needed at least a few months in individual therapy before we would benefit from couples therapy. I went to a therapist for a while, but my husband never did.

I had my son in therapy for four years and he seemed to have made such great strides. The therapist just retired and my son wanted to see if he could handle things without therapy for a while. He seemed to have come so far that I was willing to try it.When we asked my son why he said such terrible hurtful things, he could only say that he was angry and was seeing everything we did "in the worst light" and he sees now that he misinterpreted everything and "acted like an idiot". He has apologized up down and sideways, asked what he can do to make up for his behavior. I know that he feels terrible now, but in the last month or two there were two other incidents with me, where he apologized afterwards, so I'm feeling that it's not enough for him to simply apologize afterwards.

I'm thinking he needs to go back to seeing someone but that maybe the four of us should go for family counseling as well.

I am distraught, because a) I thought my son was past the impulsive mouthing off a b) while I understand how deeply hurt my husband is, I am so hurt that he would think of walking out on me and c) it hurts me that if my husband does stay that he and my son may remain at odds. I'm sorry if I'm rambling. I've been awake since 2:45 a.m., and I' don't do well with sleep deprivation---and my particular health problems also leave me feeling wrung out at times.

I am also having some health problems that I am trying to address, and it will take me at least a few months to get them under control. I do feel that if my husband doesn't want to stay, that he should at least give me time to first get my health issues resolved and then be able to look for a job that pays more (a challenge in the current market). Generally I try not to make major decisions until the turmoil has abated, but I may not have a choice. Either way, the issue with my son will have to be addressed.

Has anyone had anything similar? I'd appreciate your insights. I know somehow it will work out, but right now I'm sad, worried, confused, and hurt.

J.

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J., I'm in a similar situation I was married before I have a 16 year old son the only difference with me is that I have a 2yr. old with my new husband now. It is very hard being remarried & having children from a previous marriage. Unfortunetly I feel kids just can not accept the situation. My husband & son fight all the time their are days I would just like to leave. I love my husband to death he just seems to forget he was a kid too. We have been in & out of counseling for about 7yrs. My husband & son go to counseling now it has been much better. I finally think my son is learning to let things go which makes things much easier. My situation is a little harder for the fact I have a 2yr. old that sees everything going on. I know their are days my husband feels like just walking out, but he just can't we have been through so much the last few years we now if we stick together & go for counselor they will guide us. Trust me it is very hard the only thing I can say is it will get better as long as you are willing to get help & stick to it.

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J., I'm in a similar situation I was married before I have a 16 year old son the only difference with me is that I have a 2yr. old with my new husband now. It is very hard being remarried & having children from a previous marriage. Unfortunetly I feel kids just can not accept the situation. My husband & son fight all the time their are days I would just like to leave. I love my husband to death he just seems to forget he was a kid too. We have been in & out of counseling for about 7yrs. My husband & son go to counseling now it has been much better. I finally think my son is learning to let things go which makes things much easier. My situation is a little harder for the fact I have a 2yr. old that sees everything going on. I know their are days my husband feels like just walking out, but he just can't we have been through so much the last few years we now if we stick together & go for counselor they will guide us. Trust me it is very hard the only thing I can say is it will get better as long as you are willing to get help & stick to it.

First tell your husband to grow up. This is not about him. If he is going to leave because of something a teenager said to him then he's other issues and is using your son as an excuse. Kids in their early teens are going thru all kinds of changes, physically & emotionally. Add the impulsivity of AD/HD on top of that and these outbursts are going to happen. Get your son back into therapy. If he was happy with the person he was seeing before, then go back to that one. If he wasn't or wants a change, find a therapist who specializes in kids with special needs (AD/HD, etc.) who will also work with the family and how to work with your son. Then take care of yourself. You need to be healthy for you and for your son. Then get yourself into therapy.

First you need to breathe! Ok lets try to make some sense out of what seems right now to be chaos...but is not atypical for many blended families and children with ADHD.

Ok, this is just advice, not gospel and only you know what is the right thing to do for you and your family.

You son needs his mothers attention and he is telling you this, both verbally and through acting out. Whatever he is feeling, he is trying to convey that message to you. Please remember, he is a teen, hormones are raging, and peer pressure is HIGH!!!!

Now with repect to his diagnosis of ADHD, I am sure you and your husband understand that his behavior requires patience and understanding. Couseling is great, but right now, turning back to that immediately may not be your best first line of action. BUT don't negate that therapy might be a good idea.

I am suggesting taking a weekend for you and your son (or even a day trip, go to an arcade, go to a movie, a play, a concert, bowling!), go away to someplace where you two can talk, play and rebond. Don't force the conversation about his feelings, but tell him, I am here, if you want to talk I am ready to listen. Don't assume he knows you are there to listen, tell him. Too often we as parents don't tell our kids what they can or can't do, or what is expected or not expected. We need to be clear, and not assume. (I know, I've made that mistake, and it was hard to recover, but we did)

Make 30 minutes each day for your kids. Soley to be present with them, and to listen and share with them. Have fun!

Now for your husband, he should do the same. If this man is truly his (their) father (understandably not biological) then he should take the time to be with him as well. He needs to rebond, on a man-to-man and father-to-son level.

Then you all should do things as a family. Again, too often we forget do to things as a family because we are so tied up in LIFE and so angry when kids are ungrateful. We must remember, we were kids too, and although times may have been different, we must deal with today's kid, and love them more for it! Family time crosses all times and generations, so please..take some family time. Go cycling, walking, hiking, waterrafting, a movie, or have movie night at home, kids choice and then parents choice....game night...let the kids cook night, etc.

Lay the rules clearly, that you and your husband are a unit, and so is your son and you, him and your son, and the two kids. And family bonds will NOT be broken.

Consider alternatives for sleep away camp...

As far as responsibility, set the chores and respect their privacy. What my husband and I did was the best and most liberating thing!

The kids entered into those tween-teen years their rooms were unmanagable. So we gave them a choice, either we clean their rooms and go through their rooms, ditching what we choose and seeing all their private things, or they take care of their rooms, do their laundry, and through out their garbage. Well it took time, but it worked! Now honestly, my kids rooms are a mess...but there are no locks on the doors, they have done their own laundry since they were 11 and 13, and clean their rooms weekly. They even have painted their room and redecorated! Although my anal retentive husband wanted it perfect so he was painting right alongside them, but they both get it, if they want respect, they have to earn it and respect includes responsibility and accountability.

I close the door when I see a mess, and I am so HAPPY not to see their madness!!!!

Let Go and Let God...somethings are not worth the battle, so choose your battles wisely.

Kindly, S

I also have a son with ADHD, from a first marriage and have been in my second for 18 years. We've had some really good times and really bad times through the teenage years. I've seen the impulsiveness come and go. My husband was very tolerant of the bad days, we never discussed our issues in front of my son. Not to say that we didn't talk together with my son. We did, and there were some very heated moments.

During his teen years it became worse again and I blamed it on the hormone changes. ADHD is a chemical imbalance in the brain, add to that the hormone changes and all the normal teen trials and influences, and you can have a mess on your hands. A lot of support, love and discipline as well as therapy, if your son is open to it (it most likely won't work if he doesn't want it) will help but as he gets older he has to realize that he is ultimately responsible for his behavior which will determine his future. (Yeah, I know, tell that to a teen!) I gave my son too many "chances"- he too became mouthy, then belligerant, then threatening. At 18 I had to kick him out of the house because of the threats and broken household items, doors, and so on.
While we were going through this I had friends ask if he was doing drugs. Of course I said "No way, he's in sports adn is going to go to college on a sports scholarship". Well I found out a couple of years later (at 17) he had been doing drugs, which is a common outlet for people with ADHD. People with ADHD often feel out of control, allienated, low self-esteem, ect. Hence why they may turn to drugs. I'm not saying your son has, but keep it in the back of your mind and know the signs and symptoms- and don't be affraid of having him tested if you think he is. I gave too many excuses and chances, accepting too many "I'm sorry"'s without serious consequences. For your son's sake, try not to do what I did. He's 24, has a 2.5 year old and life is very hard on him right now. And there is nothing I can do about it now except tell him I love him no matter what, but that I will not accept the nasty behavior. I remind my son of his potential, he's a very smart, type "A" personality with the ability to light up a room with jokes, and sympathy and gentleness when it's needed. I've made my apologies for not being harder on him when he was younger and expect more from him now. He is showing signs of improvement but it's much harder than it had to be.
As for your husband, if he really loves you he will stick by you. One thing we did was to agree that: 1)we weren't going to let a child influence our behavior toward each other, 2)we would not fight in front of the kids (I have a younger son as well) and 3)if there was something we totally disagreed on, the decision was mine because ultimately he's my son, but that I would give my husband the chance to fully explain his point of view before making my decision.
Looking back on it I wish I had taken some of his suggstions early on- tough but fair. If you want to talk more you can e-mail me at '____@____.com' Good luck to you.

J.,
You are in my prayers.Is your son on medication? Is he taking it as prescribed? Maybe the medications need to be changed?
If your husband wants to work it out it is so important for you both to go to counseling in order to make it work.
Pray.

Dear J.,

I don't have a teenager (yet), but I do remember being one, and what I know is this: teens test their limits. They try to push their parents' buttons, they try to get a reaction -- it's a way of making sure that as they start to leave the nest the nest will still be there. (And, with all the hormones surging around in a teenage boy, there's often some extra anger and aggression. It's testosterone, and it's normal.)

I do think you need to find a time to sit down with your husband -- maybe after a cooling-off period, maybe with a counselor -- and let him know that you love him and you value his support while your son goes through a difficult but normal stage.

Honestly, I can't say this enough -- it's normal. It's an "I hate you; do you love me?" moment. And if it only happens once, you'll be getting off very, very easy. If your son didn't love his stepdad and want him in his life, he wouldn't be testing him this way. I know it's not pleasant, but your husband needs to understand that it's a normal and not personal.

Hope this helps!

Mira

J.-

I so feel for you and your situation. I have 9 and 15 year old sons. I am divorced and my ex and I do not have the same standards or views on parenting and discipline.

I don't have enough time right now to address this as completely as I probably would normally but I will get to the heart of my reply.

My 15 year old has become extremely disrespectful. Some of that is being a teen and some is that he has gotten into a bad crowd and is doing other bad things as well. His grades have fallen too. I know where you are coming from thinking the apology is not enough because we went through that also.

Keep on top of him. Get him back into therapy and also get into family and or marriage counseling.

Do your best to take care of your health issues. I also have some health problems and they surely take a toll but most often people do not have the decency to wait until you feel better. My ex filed for divorce as soon as my Mom went into rapid decline with Alzheimers disease. Not only was I the primary caretaker but I was the only one in my family doing anything for her. My children at that time were 4 and 10 so I had my hands full there too. He made sure that the entire divorce process was as spiteful, bitter, costly and nasty as it could possibly get and it was finalized 3 days before the first anniversary of her death. His goal was the threat he had made when he filed...I am going to see you penniless and in a mental institution if its the last thing I do.

Well, he managed penniless and he filed bankruptcy as well. Wasn't this a wonderful thing for the children? They then and now have 2 parents struggling to provide. But, when someone makes up their mind to be spiteful and nasty they do not put anyone else first. Mothers will often put their children first but from what I have seen fathers often do not, and these are not his biological children so despite the fact that he loves them very much I would not rely on that either.

Fortunately, by the Grace of God I am not and have never been in a mental institution. That is not because he stopped trying but purely by the Grace of God. All the stress made my health and depression/anxiety much worse than it had ever been. I had a few years that were very trying. But...this is life. Do not expect him to wait until you are better for him to leave if he has it set in his heart that this is what he is going to do. In fact, if he is hurtful and nasty be prepared for him to do it at the lowest possible point in your health crisis. So, rely on your faith and good friends and if you are lucky enough some good family members. That was something else I did not have the benefit of from the time my Mom started to show signs of Alzheimers.

Your children need you, especially now so stand strong. And, in terms of the teen, be a parent not a pal. Stick to your guns about the discipline and get him into therapy pronto! You did not mention, but is their biological father any help at all? I am assuming not since he wasn't mentioned but maybe now is the time to see if he will pull his weight...but don't expect much there either.

Sorry if this sounds bitter and disappointing but this has been my experience.

On the other hand, I am still here. I am still standing strong. I know I am a good Mother and am doing the right thing even when it is not the popular thing.

This too shall pass...better days ahead...just possible bad storms first...

Hang in there...
P.

Hi J.
So sorry you are going through this... I dont have any personal experience with this, but I worked with children of various ages with ADHD for probably about 6 years or so. I also worked on a research study of ADHD kids who were the same age as your son (and older).
What strikes me saddest about this is the stance your husband is taking. The fact that he would be talking about leaving is completely outrageous- maybe he didnt mean it or was mouthing off out of anger? Interesting, he was doing the same thing that your son was doing.
WHile I would in no way condone your son's behavior, it seems like he has an awareness that he was wrong in acting out. While I dont have a child this age, I do remember being a teen and I may not have said certain things to my mother or father, but, boy, was I thinking it! I know your son hurt your feelings, but please dont take it so personally that you then wouldnt speak to him over it. Talking to him directly would probably be the best way to go about it - especially if you're thinking about bringing him back to therapy. If you want him to talk to someone about issues, then the best way to do it is to set an example yourself. Further, his anxiety over the incident when you had company probably festered and your husband talking to him about it the next day was all he needed to have a blow up all over again.
If your husband is getting involved, fine, that's his business as a stepfather. But then that also means, by the same token, that he should be prepared for the same fallout that comes along with getting involved. Sure your son would say hurtful things, "youre not my father" etc. He's grasping at straws to get a rise out of people, to make them feel as bad about themselves as he felt about himself at that point. If your husband was his bio father, he would have found something else to take issue with ...Your husband needs to relax and get a thicker skin...this is a 14 year old we are talking about... if he could make better decisions, he would be an adult.

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