H.C. asks from Luther, OK on February 02, 2010
Toddler with Cavities
I really don't have a question so much as I just need some comfort and support. Today was my daughter 1st dentist appointment. It went really well and she did awesome. But she has 3 soft spots, basically cavities in the making. And her the groove in her teeth is shaped so that she's prone to cavities. The dentist wants to put her to sleep and go in and shave out those grooves to make them rounder and fill them with a white filling. I'm supposed to call tomorrow and schedule the procedure. I don't even know if her Soonercare will cover that. Plus I have to take her to her doctor and get a physical exam to make sure she's healthy for "surgery". They keep calling it "surgery" and that scares me. I don't want her to have to be under anesthesia for fillings. I know they need to be cleaned out and filled but she's never had to have anything like this done before. And I can't be in there while they do the procedure. I'm very anxious about this whole thing, but I can't freak out because I need to be strong for her. I can't even imagine how scary it may seem to her come surgery time. Somebody please say something comforting to help put me at ease with this. :)
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So What Happened?™
After speaking with Soonercare I tried to make an appt for a consult with Dr Jerome Miller. His receptionist told me that there is no such code to bill a consultation and that I would need a referral from the first Dr to see Dr Miller. So I call Dr#1s office and the receptionist tells me that Dr Miller's office is basically saying that they want to do something that will get them more money. But she would fill out the paperwork for the referral anyhow. I decided to call Soonercare again just to be sure. After being transferred to about 6 different people I finally got a very knowledgeable woman who said that YES there is a consult code and she gave it to me. She also spent some time on the phone with me discussing what Dr#1 wanted to do and she recommended another pediatric dentist to do the 2nd opinion. I was very angry that Dr. Millers office lied to me. I don't really know if she was lying or is she just doesn't know anything about billing, either way I don't care to go there. Plus she was super rude on the phone. After talking to a coworker about what was going on she said that her bff was a pediatric hygienist for Dr Theresa White. So I made the appt and she saw us yesterday. They went ahead and did bite wing xrays of the molars, DR#1 didn't do xrays of the molars. it turns out she has more cavities in between the teeth. Dr White says they need to be fixed and offered us the option of conscious sedation but that would take 2 visits to do all the work. She always said that general anesthesia was an option to do it all at once so that is the one my husband and I chose. The procedure isn't until the end of March so we have some time to get used to the idea, if that's is possible. Thank you to everyone who offered the opinion, advice, and comforting words.
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L. answers from Baton Rouge on February 02, 2010
I was wondering also, if there are no actual cavities yet, why wouldn't they just seal them? I would get a second opinion.
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K.I. answers from Spokane on February 02, 2010
I wish our dentist had done this for my son...we were told at his first appointment (when all his teeth were in) that his teeth were so scrunched tight together that he would have problems....they shaved all the front teeth to help prevent deterioration...but didn't offer any suggestions like that for his molars....now 4 years down the road and last year (when he was 5) he had his scheduled check up and EVERYWHERE his molars touched was a cavity...some were so rubbed off they required metal caps!!! He now has 2 metal teeth and a filling "bridge" (dont know how else to describe it) between the other molars.
It sucked! He was put on the laughing gas stuff but never all the way under...
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I.G. answers from Seattle on February 02, 2010
Honestly it sounds like money making to me.
So she doesn't actually have cavities, just soft spots, spots in which the enamel is softening... I would get a second opinion and see if you can have them sealed or even just flouridized and wait/see approach.
Another thing is the General for me, I have never heard of kids going under for simple, superficial fillings before I moved to the US. I have been to the dentist with my nieces when they were toddlers, and they had actual cavities filled with simple local anesthesia. It was NEVER an issue. the dentist simply took his time to explain everything to the child, show them the instruments and how they work, told them what kind of noise and sensation to anticipate... they were scared sometimes, but it was never terrible...
I would look at some other dentists and get another opinion... and just one more thing, if your dental insurance won't cover it, chances are there are alternatives to this treatment that they will cover...
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R.U. answers from Oklahoma City on February 02, 2010
Oh honey it is stressful on you!! I know because my baby was just 18mo when he went under GA for his first dental "surgery". He was nearly 3yrs old when he had his second one. Make SURE you get a pediatric specialist!!! We didn't the first time and it all had to be redone. Kids are resilient, my son hardly seemed to notice or complain. I was a wreck though! Make sure you have good support at the hospital or even at the pre-op appointment to ask questions and keep track of instructions. HTH & GL!!
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J.M. answers from Erie on February 02, 2010
Well..I havent actually gone through dental surgery with either of my kids, but I have been through sugeries with my son (kidney stone and stents). I'll be honest...it's scary, BUT kids are so strong and resilient. I think it's actually harder for us as parents than it is for the child. Youre right though, the best thing you can do for her is just be strong. Anytime one of your babies gets put under for anything is scary, but she'll be better off having it done, right? So, be strong hun...it will be hard, but worth it...and once its over you can treat her to something fun for being so brave! Hang in there and good luck!!
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W.B. answers from Tulsa on February 03, 2010
Hi H.,
As a dental hygienist, please allow me to give you my opinion. I believe (not sure, though), that the anesthesia that they do for dental is not too bad, they are semi-conscious and don't remember anything. They keep them this way so that the kids can follow simple instructions, like 'open wide', or 'turn toward me', etc. I don't think they even need a breathing tube. I know that's how they do wisdom teeth surgery, just like if they need tubes in their ears. So that's not nearly as scary. Another thing...please take care of these teeth, even if they are her baby teeth. If they need fillings, get fillings. Yes, they will eventually be lost, but right now they are there for a reason. If they get infected, that infection can affect the permanent tooth growing behind it. Plus, those baby molars may not come out until she's 12 or 13 years old. They hold the space for the permanent teeth behind them and guide them into place when it's time for them to come in. If she loses them too early, she may need a space maintainer.
If you're not sure if this procedure is really absolutely necessary, get a second opinion. And look for a pediatric dentist that will let you be present during the procedure. However, be prepared that you may not find one. I think most of them would prefer that you wait elsewhere, especially if the procedure is done in a hospital.
In my opinion, if you do get the fillings done, anesthesia would be great, that way she won't be traumatized about the dentist like so many are these days. Why not make things more comfortable for her, if possible?
Good luck, I hope you can get some comfort from some of these awesome Moms!!
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A.H. answers from Fayetteville on February 03, 2010
My child had his first cavity not too long ago. I was very nervous about this as I hate the dentist myself! He went in and was a big trooper! They did everything without even giving him a local anesthetic. He didn't move or cry and the dentist said she'd never seen anything like it. She attributed a large portion of it to the fact that his father and I didn't act scared or nervous. Is there a way to know whether or not her permanent teeth are going to be shaped the same way? If she is going to lose all these teeth that this procedure is being done on, I would probably wait and have it done on her permanent teeth so it doesn't have to be done twice. Stay strong and don't let her see you upset. Keep brushing and flossing and doing everything you can to keep the cavitites at a minimum. It will be ok. Good luck!
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K.S. answers from Little Rock on February 04, 2010
I can't imagine how you must feel. Well, maybe a little. My son is giving me a hard time when it comes to brushing teeth, so I want to tell you that you have my support and thanks for bringing to my attention just how important it really is. It's so easy to forget about the teeth or to just give up on it when there is just so much else going on. I'm sure your little girl is tough enough, but it's still scary. It's going to be okay.
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L. answers from Baton Rouge on February 02, 2010
I was wondering also, if there are no actual cavities yet, why wouldn't they just seal them? I would get a second opinion.
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