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The "Real" Flu

Up until the last several years, I always thought the flu was vomiting and diarrhea, and when flu epidemics or swine flu were being discussed, that's what I thought it was all about. I was, admittedly, pretty ignorant. I have since learned that what I commonly called "the flu" in my youth was actually the "stomach flu", which is absolutely not the same as influenza (aka the "real" flu).

Stomach flu can be caused by viruses, bacteria, food poisoning, etc. It leads to vomiting and/or diarrhea.

The flu (aka influenza) presents similar to a cold with fever, fatigue, and respiratory congestion. Most of the time it's like a really severe cold, but sometimes it can lead to pneumonia. This is not the same thing, at all, as the stomach flu. The flu vaccine is for the influenza virus and not the stomach flu.

So, when you respond to questions about whether you've had the flu, do you think of the stomach flu or influenza? How many of you have stated or thought that you've never had the flu (or not recently), but you have had a severe cold? I can think of 1 or 2 severe colds I've had in the last 2 decades that on reconsideration of the above information might have been the flu. How about you?

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My purpose in writing this is I see so folks saying they never had the flu (generally while they are talking about how bad or unnecessary the flu shot is). Then I saw one of the respondents in another flu shot thread talk about how the flu was just vomiting and diarrhea and went on to say she's anti-flu shot and the docs are all in cahoots with the drug companies to make money off of vaccines. Aargh. This post was mostly for providing factual information to counter some of the misinformation and ignorance out there. Like I said, I used to be one of the ignorant and didn't know the stomach flu wasn't the flu until the last few years. And I'm really old and should have known better. :-)

Since so many folks think the flu is the stomach flu, I think a number of folks could have had a milder form of influenza without realizing it. From what I've read, influenza can vary a lot in severity. It can be like a really bad cold or it can be much worse (as evidenced by some of your anecdotes). It sounds like it's the stronger bouts of influenza that send folks running for the vaccines the following year.

Thanks for the answers. Your stories of having the flu make me even more satisfied that most of my family has gotten their flu shots already this year, and my hubby will as soon as he can.

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Yes, I know the difference now. I got the 'real' flu last year and was ill for 9 days with 7 days of fever, chills, body aches, etc. Missed a whole work week; could barely get out of bed. BTW, last year I didn't get the flu shot. You can bet I've already gotten one this year :)

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Yeah... the stomach "flu" actually comes from a homophone; flux, which was the common usage for dysentery (see the correlation?), as well vomiting illnesses. Which is pronounced the same way that influenza is shortened. Floo OR flucks. But more commonly, floo.

So you've actually been using the right word verbally, just not mentally. :)

Flux = Body Flux or Dysentery
Flu = Influenza

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I had the real flu when I was in my mid-20's... went I finally went to the doctor my fever was 104.5 and I honestly thought I could be dying I felt so terrible.

Since that year, I get the flu shot.

I NEVER want to be that sick again, or for my children to have to be that ill. I missed a week of work (and had no benefits at the time - so it was unpaid) and it was very disruptive. I also lost about 8 lbs' - which at the time was not something I needed to do... and I felt weak, sick for 3 full weeks after.

J.

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Yes, I know the difference now. I got the 'real' flu last year and was ill for 9 days with 7 days of fever, chills, body aches, etc. Missed a whole work week; could barely get out of bed. BTW, last year I didn't get the flu shot. You can bet I've already gotten one this year :)

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Had the real flu once...10 days of hell...I wanted to die from the body aches alone...high fevers...cough...runny nose...could not get out of bed, had to crawl to the bathroom I was so weak. My teeth hurt, my hair hurt...it was the worst!!

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Yeah... the stomach "flu" actually comes from a homophone; flux, which was the common usage for dysentery (see the correlation?), as well vomiting illnesses. Which is pronounced the same way that influenza is shortened. Floo OR flucks. But more commonly, floo.

So you've actually been using the right word verbally, just not mentally. :)

Flux = Body Flux or Dysentery
Flu = Influenza

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I tested positive along with my 2 yr old a few years ago with the swine flu. We did not vomit or have diarrhea but I will tell you I absolutely thought I would die and if the babies eyes were open she was crying in pain. O my it was awful. My body hurt so much it hurt to sit on the toilet to pee! We both took tamiflu and finally got better. I don't wish that on anyone! I've always thought they were different, vomiting is a "bug". The utter hell we went through a few years ago is "the flu". That's my opinion.

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I've had a few respiratory bouts that were definitely the real flu. I've only once that I can remember had viral gastroenteritis, or "stomach flu."

Back to the respiratory, or "real" flu, many people don't know that quite a few different flu viruses are active in any given year. Vaccine producers watch the trends carefully and project which three viral strains are most likely to cause serious epidemics, and those three go into that year's vaccine. The vaccines are not 100% effective, especially in the elderly or immune-compromised, but they do generally lessen the impact of the virus, and they do impart considerable "herd immunity," that is, if enough people in any population have had the vaccine, there are fewer cases of the illness being passed around to everybody else.

So vaccinated people can still get the flu, but have at least partial protection against the greatest threats in any given year. And I value that protection mightily, because I've had lifelong asthma, and recently have also become diabetic. The last two bouts of flu I contracted, though relatively mild themselves, required expensive treatment for secondary infections.

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I had the real flu when I was in my mid-20's... went I finally went to the doctor my fever was 104.5 and I honestly thought I could be dying I felt so terrible.

Since that year, I get the flu shot.

I NEVER want to be that sick again, or for my children to have to be that ill. I missed a week of work (and had no benefits at the time - so it was unpaid) and it was very disruptive. I also lost about 8 lbs' - which at the time was not something I needed to do... and I felt weak, sick for 3 full weeks after.

J.

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Added: Jess, thanks for reminding us of how awful the flu is! That's why I get a shot every year, to minimize my chances of catching it!!!

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I've always been kind of picky about the name "flu", Kristin. It irritates me to hear someone say they had the flu yesterday, and here they stand beside me in the grocery store. I jump away from them and say "Why are you here?" with eyes wide, because I don't want to be near them. Then they proceed to tell me that they just had a little sore throat the day before and they feel just fine today. Grrr... I usually tell them that they didn't have the flu - they had a little sore throat. The flu is a full week of high fever, feeling absolutely terrible, and not being able to hardly get out of the bed. It's either the influenza type A or type B virus, and is extremely contagious. Contagious to the point of the doctor swabbing our noses in flu season so that we can tell the school if our child is out with flu, because the schools chart these statistics so they can decide whether or not to close the schools. (I'm not including Swine Flu in my remarks because people generally call it Swine Flu or H1N1.)

Anything that is not Influenza type A or B is a virus, and not the flu. (I'm not counting bacterial infections like strep.)

Generally, I usually hear someone say "stomach flu" if they have been throwing up. I usually don't ask for more info after that!

Great point to post about!!
D.

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When I say that I have had "the flu" only once in my life, I mean real influenza, as in diagnosed by a doctor and felt like death. Influenza is relatively rare, meaning that every time we get "flu-like symptoms" (congestion, cough, fever, aches, and yes, vomiting and diarrhea) it is not necessarily "the flu." I wish people would stop tossing that term around so casually. It's an actual diagnosable illness - unless people have been so sick that they or someone in their family has gone to the doctor and has been diagnosed, they shouldn't run around telling people that they have the flu, because they probably don't. It's probably just a random virus.

I can say with certainty that I have had influenza once in my life and that my husband and children have never had it. We do not and will not vaccinate.

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