L.C. asks from Bothell, WA on May 09, 2008
Teething/growth Spurt Symptoms and Remedies
I have a 5-month old who has completely changed behavioral/nursing/sleeping patterns over last 5 days. I'm not worried (yet) and feel like it's either teething/growth spurt or both, but I'm looking for others with similar experiences.
First, let me start off by saying I've read lots of articles on kellymom.com, webmd, and already called my doctor. I'm not looking for basic information that anyone can find/learn, I'm more seeking validation/confirmation & remedies (e.g. "Yes, my child experienced this as well, and we tried this...") because so far, none of my mommy friends have said that their children have had these symptoms all in conjunction, esp.the lack of naps w/obvious tiredness.
My son's typical behavior from 3-5 months: sleeps 7-8 hrs./night; long nap in morning, 2-3 short naps throughout afternoon/evening (in crib), nurses 5x/24 hrs. for 30-45 minutes (every 3.5-4.5 hrs. start to start), content during awake time, only fussy when tired
Last 5 days (M-F): sleeps okay at night (wanted to nurse couple of nights in mid of night); morning nap hit/miss; generally NO naps during day, unless right after nursing and on me (but obviously tired...won't go to sleep), lots of fussiness during/after/between nursing (nurses 6-8 times day for long periods of time), periods of full-out almost inconsolable crying, content times much shorter (15-30 minutes before getting fussy again),normal wet/poopy diapers, no temp.
Have tried: everything typical for sleeping (not meds, obviously!!!), Hyland's teething tablets (no change in son), wet/cool washcloth to chew on; teething toys, rubbing gums with pacifier/finger
I feel like I'm going crazy b/c I've gone from a happy-go-lucky, easy child to one who's fussy a LOT, leaving me drained mentally, emotionally, and physically (last 5 days). Hard to get out of the house (son cried almost whole way on our walk yesterday)...argh!
Seeking advice from moms whose children have had similar experiences--thank you!!!
So What Happened?™
Thanks to everyone for their varied and helpful responses. I was so sure it was teething that I didn't really remember a month ago when Christian started getting fussy during feedings and sleeping a bit less at night. I went to his ped yesterday, and it is actually my milk supply (I think 1-2 of you mentioned this!). He had hardly gained any weight from his appt. 6 weeks ago, poor guy. I am now taking Fenugreek, feeding him more frequently & supplementing after each feed, pumping as much as I can (which isn't much, since the herb hasn't kicked in yet), and eating more myself (doc said rapid weight loss and not enough to eat can very much decrease milk supply). I so want to breastfeed as long as my son wants to, so I hope this does the trick! Any Fenugreek users out there that have seen great results??? Thanks again!!!
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M.C. answers from Eugene on May 10, 2008
I have experienced this too. The next to the last thing I tried was peppermint OIL. Use a q-tip to swipe a tiny bit around baby's belly button. Then, right when my sanity was just about to go, I got a battery operated swing and that's where my baby slept (beside my bed) for about a week. He preferred a speed a little faster ten I was comfy with, but we all got sleep.
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C.S. answers from Medford on May 12, 2008
Hi L.,
I have 2 sons, 28 months and 13 months, and they both had/have hard times getting their teeth. It seems to last about a week or so each tooth and I've resorted to giving them baby Motrin and/or Tylanol. I've tried ice, teething tablets, orojel etc. and they don't seem to help. The medicine does help them and I can tell when it wears off because they start to get fussy again. I would wait for a while in the morning until they seemed like they really needed it so I could get away with giving them maybe just 2 doses a day. The first few times I was worried too wondering if it would ever stop, am I giving them too much medicine etc. because I don't like to use medicine unless it is really necessary. Good luck! Remember, everything is a phase.
C.P. answers from Portland on May 10, 2008
Have you tried putting him in the car and drive around playing soothing music? Gets you out as well. As an RN, I would suggest staying away from medications. Go homeopathic or chiropractic if you really feel that you need professional intervention.
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H.B. answers from Seattle on May 10, 2008
I have 2 boys ages 12 and 6 years of age. My older son, teething almost didn't phase him. Both of them HATED the numbing gels. My younger son, would cry and scream and was inconsolable, and this ususally started at 10:00pm (I don't know why). Whenever I put my finger on his gums, he would scream. I tryed EVERYTHING short of taking him to the hospital asking for a morphine drip for teething. I tried different numbing gels, teething tablets, infants Motrin, teething toys that were in the fridge. I even tried Whiskey and applied it with a Q-Tip onto his teeth (I only did that once-it's a wifes tale and doesn't work). I called my pediatrician one evening while he was having an episode. She offered to see him that night, and I felt it was ridiculous to take him in for teething.
Then she told me, "well you know you can give him 1 dose of infants Motrin/Advil and 1 dose of Tylenol at the same time."
No, I didn't know. I was just giving him one or the other, but not both at the same time. She told me one was for immflamation and the other was for pain, and she didn't recommend it all the time, only when he was screaming like he was (she could hear him over the phone). I gave him 1 dose of infants Advil and 1 dose of infants Tylenol and within 20 minutes-he was fine and he slept. I only did this when he was crying and screaming the way he was-until his teeth came in. He is growing in his 6 year old molars, and he was with my husband-out to breakfast for some one-on-one time. He was eating his waffle, and he started to scream, like he did when he was a baby. My son told my husband his teeth hurt really bad, my husband called me and asked me if I thought it was a cavity. I wasn't sure. They got home, I looked in his mouth and the back of his gums were swollen, and I poked a Q-Tip in the back of his gums and he screamed. I said to myself, here we go again. This time, I only gave him childrens Advil, and he was okay. He's been selective about what he eats. No chips, crackers, things that are hard.
At night time, everything gets exaggerated and is worse- pain from teething or anything, colds, coughs, fevers, swelling, etc. There is no medical explanation for it (that I know of), it just is. The pain of teething is worse at night than it is during the day.
Giving him Advil or Motrin and Tylenol at the same time was the only thing that worked for us, and it lasted well over 8 hours.
Good Luck!
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K.D. answers from Portland on May 10, 2008
Hang in there. Mother of 3 here. All of my kids hit that fussy period around 5/6 months. For all the reasons you've read about including the fact that 6 months is a HUGE dvelopmental jump and they really are changing/developing their personalities. No longer infants, full-fledge babies with wants beyond eating and sleeping.
First bit of input. GET OUT OF THE HOUSE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. This is for your emotional benefit. Nothing will drive you more quickly to the point of motherhood insanity than to isolate yourself. He's going to fuss at home and away from home. It's way better for you to be at the park, zoo,GYmboree, playgroup with a fussy babe than home alone with a fussy babe. This in turn is better for him. Happier mommy, happier baby.
Also. try delaying the morning nap a bit. You don't say when he normally goes down but try to keep him up a bit longer. His body could be realigning his sleep needs-- something they seem to do just as you've gotten used to the schedule :) When they get off sync with their bodies sleep schedule (whether due to teeth or other factors) it really wigs them out and can take a while to get them readjusted. The old adage "the more they sleep, the more they sleep" really is true!
Finally, don't panic. This too shall pass. The best way to get through these phases-- and there will be more along the way-- is very similar to getting through labor. The more you fight it the harder it is. The more relaxed you are the faster and easier it seems to go by.
Sorry I didn't have any magic beans for you, but hopefully the encouraging words help.
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W.K. answers from Corvallis on May 10, 2008
It is very common for babies to have rapid/temporary changes in their behavior patterns, and while you can drive yourself crazy trying to "figure it out," the only thing that ever worked for me was to just relax and adjust. I know that's easier said than done, but once you stop insisting on keeping whatever routine you had established, and just go with the flow, your baby will pick up your new calmness and things will settle back down.
Also, never underestimate the ability of your baby to understand your words. When my son was 6 months old, he started waking up every night around 3:00 AM, screaming, and it took hours of cuddling and rocking to calm him down. Needless to say, I was exhausted. So, one night, when I put him down to sleep, I told him gently and firmly, "If you wake up and the sun isn't up yet (pointing to the window), go back to sleep." He slept through the night. I did this again for the next couple of nights, and he slept great.
Six month later, we had to repeat the process, and then that was the end of it.
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M.C. answers from Eugene on May 10, 2008
I have experienced this too. The next to the last thing I tried was peppermint OIL. Use a q-tip to swipe a tiny bit around baby's belly button. Then, right when my sanity was just about to go, I got a battery operated swing and that's where my baby slept (beside my bed) for about a week. He preferred a speed a little faster ten I was comfy with, but we all got sleep.
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D.R. answers from Medford on May 10, 2008
My twins, who are 7 months old, started similar behavior about a month and half ago. They wake up more in the night and sleep a lot less during the day. One of them cut her first tooth 3 weeks ago and her second 2 weeks ago. Once the first tooth broke through she was less fussy and started sleeping more both at night and during the day. They are both cranky once again, I can see the bottom two teeth on my daughter that has not yet had a tooth break through.
I use the teether rings, only I keep them in the refrigerator. I learned with my older chldren (22, 20 and 17) that frozen teether frustrated them more than helped, they all hated to hold the freezing teether but loved it when they were cold. I have about 4 for each girl and rotate them in and out of fridge.
I also learned with my older 3 that swaddling them when they were extremely tired and cranky helped them calm down and relax. So I swaddle (their torso and legs) and rock them, sometimes I use the white noise to assist in triggering their calming reflex.
I wish you the best of luck and from expereince will say that this will pass. Your calm, sweet baby will return once his little month stops hurting so much.
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K.W. answers from Bellingham on May 10, 2008
I'm going through something similar with my 14 month daughter. She was on a great schedule with a morning and and afternoon nap. She's always been relatively easy to put to sleep but isn't so good at staying asleep. The last week or so it's been draining to get her to fall asleep and I'm lucky if I get her to take at least 1 half hour nap a day. She's fussier than normal and wants to nurse all the time. My daughter is getting a tooth but that doesn't explain the degree of fussiness in my opinion. I think she might be going through a growth spurt as well. There are moments when I want to cry out of frustration and exhaustion but I keep telling myself that she probably feels uncomfortable and just not like her usual self. She needs a more comforting and love right now and my job is to give it to her. So I guess that's my recommendation, if you can, give her that extra bit she needs. It won't last forever. She'll be more secure and confident on the other side knowing that you were there for her. Hope this helps.
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R.S. answers from Portland on May 10, 2008
Hang in there. Sounds like teething to me. Just too uncomfortable to sleep, but so tired that he's not happy. A long drive in the country does our family well when teething time comes as there is car noise, distraction out the window and we get out of the house. My son also loved a Razberry teether (can buy online), and I use homeopathic teething drops (from Target), as well as Oragel/Tylenol or whatever it takes. Let him nurse lots (the pressure usually feels good on the gums) and hold him lots. It may take a while for the teeth to come through so get breaks when you can. This too shall pass.
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N.M. answers from Seattle on May 10, 2008
At about 13 months my son cried or nursed for what was 5 or 6 days straight while he was teething. He refused food and didn't sleep well unless it was right after nursing. There were other symptoms, but it felt like teething was really a two person job the way he seemed to need my attention at all times. I use homeopathic chamomile and Hyland's teething tablets for teething, but the most efficient remedy for teething discomfort was acupuncture. Within 30 minutes of a treatment my son was playing independently for the first time in days. What a relief. Our acupuncturist uses only a couple of needles for baby treatments and she makes house-calls. She's great with babies and parents....feel free to call her to ask any questions about baby health and behavior. She's my main source of information for baby care: Caroline Carlson L.Ac. ###-###-#### (Seattle area).
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