S.H. asks from Long Beach, CA on November 03, 2009
Swine Flu in Children & Adults
Has anyone had the swine flu themselves and if so, what were your initial symptoms? Was the illness mild, moderate or severe?
Has anyone's children (otherwise healthy with no major medical issues) gotten the swine flu? If so, what were their initial symptoms? Did they recover without medication?
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G.D. answers from Modesto on November 04, 2009
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E.M. answers from San Francisco on November 05, 2009
My son came down with aches, fever and headache on Sunday afternoon. He had a high fever Sunday night. Fever was totally gone Tuesday morning. Now he just has a lingering cough.
Kaiser diagnosed it as H1N1 and now I've got it, too. My fever lasted one day, and now I'm in the coughing stage.
I'd say that in our case it was no big deal.
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R.M. answers from San Francisco on November 04, 2009
Hello,
My family has been hit HARD by swine flu. All 3 children have had it (tag-team fashion, not all at once). According to our pediatrician, lots of young people are getting it, some between the ages of 25 and 55, and few over the age of 55.
At the bottom of this email is a list of symptoms comparing cold, seasonal flu, and H1N1. I don't know what the source of this list is (it was distributed by a local school), but the symptoms seem pretty right on from my experience.
Here's how it started: My kids' school was hit with a virus
in a very dramatic way. My daughter's class went from 26 students in attendance to 7 students in one day (a Wednesday). By Friday there were only 5 kids in her
class, and the teacher was sick as well. The first grade in her school was also hit hard and was down to only 4 students last week.
To diagnose what they have, some kids (including my son) have had rapid tests done in the doctor's office. I was told that if the test comes back positive (as my son's did) it means that they have either H1N1 or Influenza A. My son's pediatrician said it was almost certainly H1N1, because they aren't currently seeing any Influenza A come through their office. Other families at our school
have heard the same thing from their pediatricians. The ER doctors and nurses we saw two nights ago weren't as willing to jump to that conclusion. As far as they were concerned, my son had influenza, but not necessarily H1N1.
Whatever my kids have had, I can tell you it feels very different from anything they (or I) have ever had. It comes on like a freight train, hits hard, and then leaves after about 5 days (though many parents have heard worrisome
stories about the potential for relapse). As for the symptom list below, with so many kids getting sick at once, it was possible for parents to compare notes. Each kid seemed to have a slightly different variation, with the common thread being fast onset of symptoms and fever (probably a third of my daughter's class had fevers of 104-105!). Many kids (but not all) had severe headaches, many kids (but not all) experienced nausea and vomiting), and a very high number of kids have experienced pain and pressure in their chests with a nasty cough (which has continued even after the kids feel better otherwise). Kids with pre-existing conditions like asthma are being hit particularly hard in the chest. Almost all kids have had a complete lack of appetite as well.
My first sick child returned to school after 5 days, but her appetite still hasn't returned to normal, and 7 days after she first became sick, she's still exhausted most of the time.
Because of my son's asthma he was given a prescription for Tamiflu, and I'm assuming that's why he is dramatically better after 2 days. Two days ago, he had a fever and could barely breathe. Today, though he still feels tired and has a bad cough, he is well on his way back to normal. If you feel a sudden fever come on (with any of the other symptoms below), I recommend you try to get a prescription for Tamiflu from your doctor. FYI, many pharmacies are running out of Tamiflu, so you might have to shop around.
There was also lots of discussion among parents as to when and if to treat fever with advil or tylenol. Most parents whose kids had fevers over 103 chose to treat it, most parents whose kids had fevers below that chose not to. Folk wisdom in my experience (born out by Google searches on the subject) told me that in general, it's better to let the fever run its course unless it's high enough to be dangerous. My son's fever was 102 for one day, which I hardly thought was dangerous. He has a history of asthma triggered by illness, so when he could barely breathe, even after giving him prednisone, I rushed him to the ER. The admitting nurse, upon hearing that I'd done nothing to treat his fever, acted like I was the stupidest parent alive. And I did feel stupid when, after they gave him a single dose of tylenol, he began to breathe better. Live and learn!
So far, I'm flu-free (knock wood) and keeping my fingers crossed!
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DIFFERENCES BETWEEN COLD & SWINE FLU & SEASONAL FLU SYMPTOMS
FEVER
Fever is rare with a cold.
Fever is usually present with H1N1 in up to 80% of all flu cases. A temperature of 101°
Fever is common with the seasonal flu.
COUGHING
A hacking, productive (mucus-producing) cough is often present with a cold.
A non-productive (non-mucus producing) cough is usually present with H1N1 (sometimes referred to as dry cough).
A dry and hacking cough is often present with the seasonal flu.
ACHES
Slight body aches and pains can be part of a cold.
Severe aches and pains are common with H1N1.
Moderate body aches are common with the seasonal flu.
STUFFY NOSE
Stuffy nose is commonly present with a cold and typically resolves spontaneously within a week.
Stuffy nose is not commonly present with H1N1.
A runny nose is commonly present with the seasonal flu.
CHILLS
Chills are uncommon with a cold.
60% of people who have H1N1 experience chills.
Chills are mild to moderate with the seasonal flu.
TIREDNESS
Tiredness is fairly mild with a cold.
Tiredness is moderate to severe with H1N1.
Tiredness is moderate and more likely referred to as a lack of energy with the seasonal flu.
SNEEZING
Sneezing is commonly present with a cold
Sneezing is not common with H1N1.
Sneezing is common present with the seasonal flu.
SUDDEN SYMPTOMS
Cold symptoms tend to develop over a few days.
H1N1 has a rapid onset within 3-6 hours. H1N1 hits hard and includes sudden symptoms like high fever, aches and pains. Symptoms usually last 4-7 days, depending on the individual. Diarrhea is common.
Seasonal fly: Symptoms tend to develop over a few days and include flushed face, loss of appetite, dizziness and/or vomiting/nausea. Symptoms usually last 4-7 days, depending on the individual. Diarrhea is common.
HEADACHE
A headache is fairly uncommon with a cold.
A headache is very common with H1N1 and present in 80% of cases.
A headache is fairly common with the seasonal flu.
SORE THROAT
Sore throat is commonly present with a cold.
Sore throat is not commonly present with H1N1.
Sore throat is commonly present with the seasonal flu.
CHEST DISCOMFORT
Chest discomfort is mild to moderate with a cold.
Chest discomfort is often severe with H1N1..
Chest discomfort is moderate with the seasonal flu. If it turns severe seek medical attention immediately!
PREVENTION TIPS:
Cough & sneeze into your elbow
Wash hands with soap and warm water for a minimum of 15 -20 seconds. Sing your abc's or happy birthday to you
Use hand sanitizer when soap & water are not available
Avoid touching eyes, nose or mouth without washing or using hand sanitizer first
Stay home if you are sick to avoid contaminating others.
K.B. answers from Sacramento on November 04, 2009
I think that if we didn't have a nightly news on every station, plus 4 or 5 stations devoted to the news we wouldn't be in the panic that we are now. It is insanely hyped up, and in all reality you are more likely to die of the traditional flu. I read that we had 2 deaths in our area of swine flu, but how many have we had so far of regular flu? The people who are dying are the ones with underlying health issues, I am healthy as are my children, and none of us are getting the vaccine.
Here is what bothers me, the doctors aren't testing for the swine flu anymore, just assuming that if you are sick right now you have swine flu. That doesn't make sense to me at all, how are they going to know if there is a shift from one flu to the next? Or, if the swine flu dies out? There are people out there who will exaggerate their symptoms when calling the doctor, just to hear that they have one epidemic or the next. It sounds crazy, but it happens.
I don't use antibacterial soap, it just breeds super germs that are more resistant then ever. Just be smart about things. Wash your hands frequently, don't touch people who are acting sick, avoid sample foods and make sure that you are getting enough food and sleep to maintain your immune system.
D.C. answers from Fresno on November 04, 2009
My husband, daughter, and I had it after returning from Mexico in February. This was quite a bit before the swine flu hit the news, so no one knew about it. Knocked me on my tush for weeks, but only spent 3 days in bed. Our symptoms were mostly respiratory, and for those three days I had a fever - and then went to the doc after those three days. I was diagnosed with walking pneumonia (know better now) and give antibiotics. They didn't work, so I got stronger ones and had to take the new ones for two rounds. Except for those 3 days, I was at work the whole time. I just felt crappy, as did hubby (he was laid off at the time). LOTS of coughing.
My daughter was the least effected, but was on antibiotics. I think she only missed a day of school due to fever.
I think our coughs lasted about 8 weeks total. Again, keep in mind no one knew about the swine flu at that time.
At some level, we had ALL the symptons listed for swine flu.
V.R. answers from Redding on November 04, 2009
Over half of my son's class has it or has had it. I am keeping my son out of school right now until I can get him vaccinated. We have some special issues that getting the swine flu would not be conducive to right now.
However, it seems like the vast majority of kids that are getting it, do get over it within about 5 days or so. Initial symptoms seem to be high fever, head and body aches. Some kids develop a cough and if the lungs get to gummed up, those are he kids that are going to the hospital but really not too many are.
Good luck.
G.D. answers from Modesto on November 04, 2009
MUST WATCH & READ!!! http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/1...
S.E. answers from Salinas on November 04, 2009
I had the swine flu the first week of Sept when I was 24 weeks pregnant (I am now 32 weeks pregnant). I felt irritable on Friday. Saturday I had a fever and cough. It was a little hard to breath (I had child hood asthma). I went to the doctor's office (not OBGYN since they do not want sick people spreading it to pregnant women) on Monday. It was too late for tamiflu since it needs to be taken within 48 hours of onset. I had a sore throat and cough for 2 weeks but was up and out of bed within one week. My son was sick with diarrhea and no fever and I am not sure if his was H1N1, but the doc assumed it was and gave him liquid tamiflu. I put the medicine in food, but he would not touch it. He recovered within a week.
Obviously this goes against the media, but I think it is important to know there are pregnant women who survive this flu too. My OBGYN said he prescribed 12 pregnant women tamiflu during Sept and none were hospitalized. He is very nervous about this flu and will give all of his pregnant patients the vaccine when it arrives in his office mid November at no charge.
J.C. answers from San Francisco on November 06, 2009
Yes, we think we might have had it. Of course there's no way to confirm because they won't let you, unless you have some urgent reason to do so, like you are hospitalized. But, ours was pretty mild and only lasted a couple of days. Some vomiting for one child, but the rest of us just had upset stomach and a little cough, a fever and some body aches. We were better in a few days.
Check out Mercola.com for some interesting alternative news on some of the possible hype about the flu. He has a different take on things than you will hear in the mainstream media. Hope that helps! Hope you stay well.
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