A.J. asks from Seattle, WA on October 30, 2008
Stress over Baby's Slow Weight Gain, Milk Supply Issues
Hello everyone... need some perspective. Have I overreacted? Has anyone experienced anything similar? What would you recommend that we do to help improve the situation? Here goes...
I am worried about myself and my ten week old daughter. Nursing has become so difficult, and my anxiety over her slow weight gain is taking a toll on both of us.
She was born at 7 pounds, 7 ounces on August 17th. On Oct 5th, we went to the hospital due to her having vomited and because she had diarrhea with blood in it. She weighed about 3 pounds more than at birth, so 10 pounds, 7 ounces or so. On Oct 15th at her two-month appt, we learned that she weighed 10 pounds, 13 ounces. A week later, at an appt with her new dr, she weighed 10 pounds, 15 ounces. A week after that, after much painful effort, she weighed about 11 pounds 4 ounces, but that measurement was taken right after she ate (or at least had a snack). So she's been gaining slowly and dropping in the growth chart percentiles. From the hospital incident until a few days ago, she had been having what looked like diarrhea with mucous in it. In the meantime, my milk supply decreased. So now, nursing is a challenge. Unless she is sleepy, she refuses the breast or pops off constantly and cries. She now refuses the bottle as well, though at six weeks we have her her first bottle and she downed it like it was old hat.
It's killing me that she needs more calories but won't eat very often. She's constantly gnawing on her hand and it seems like she's always hungry. I've seen two lactation consultants a couple times each, been talking to a La Leche leader often, rented a hospital grade pump and am trying to pump 8 times a day, taking Fenugreek... but I'm starting to think my anxiety is our worst enemy and preventing my supply from increasing and rubbing off on my daughter so that nursing is not comfortable or appealing. And I'm starting to wonder if I have postpartum depression or at least am moving in that direction.
I am wondering if anyone experience slow weight gain with their baby or milk supply issues and had success in turning it around. I could really use some encouragement and inspiration... trying to keep the faith! Thanks so much.
UPDATE: Milk supply is good today, she's nursing better, we're hanging in there! I got a massage, which was GREAT!
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D.B. answers from Richland on October 31, 2008
I would not worry. My baby girl was 4 month yesterday and only weighs 12lbs. The doc said she is healthy as a horse! She eats when she wants to. Sometimes she wants it every 2 hours, other times she goes 6, just when she is hungry she eats. She is also chewing on her hands. It is more than likely early teething and new discovery. They are finding their hands and wanting to do new things! Don't panic and just relax! Enjoy this precious time with your little one!
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K.O. answers from Portland on October 30, 2008
Honestly it sounds to me like this has become a major source of stress for you both. I think you need to re-evaluate the situation. If it is really that difficult, maybe you should switch to formula. Nursing is supposed to be an enjoyable and pleasant experience for you both. Not a source of stress and anxiety. Mentally commit to how much longer or what further measures you are willing to take to get the nursing thing worked out. Then, if it works great. And if not, you will know you have done the best you can and it IS ok to use formula. I have two children. I tried to nurse the first and it didn't work out and I totally beat myself up about it. With my second nursing did work out, we nursed for the first year. With these experiences I have realized that nursing isn't always for every one, and we should be grateful that we have alternative solutions for those cases. It is not a sign of failure if nursing doesn't work out. I'm not saying you should give up, I'm just saying don't beat yourself up over this. :) Good luck!
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H.S. answers from Portland on October 30, 2008
You are doing a great job, and congratulations for breastfeeding.
My dd almost always reflects my emotions.
When you are nursing when do you switch sides? sometimes watery, mucusy stools are from hindmilk and foremilk imbalance. Nursing from one side at a time can help her get more fatty milk. Or could be a sensitivity so something you are eating.
First though, try to relax, even have a glass of wine and trust yourself and Stella. Do any you need to relax. Sometimes taking fish oils can help your mood too.
Only in rare cases vomiting and diarrhea may be symptoms of metabolic disorders, you could ask a doctor to test for these.
Some things that could help her take the breast patience and persistence. Try other nursing positions, nurse in motion like in a rocking chair, use skin to skin contact. Focusing your attention of touching can comfort both of you, also taking warm baths together.
Try expressing a little milk before you offer so there is milk more immediately. If either of you becomes upset take a break and try again later. You can always feed her with an eye dropper or feeding syringe.
Here's some website to see:
http://www.lowmilksupply.org/
www.kellymom.com
http://www.drjacknewman.com/Breastfeeding-help.asp
I know that's a lot. I hope it helps.
H.
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B.Y. answers from Seattle on October 31, 2008
First you are doing GREAT!!!! Take a couple of breaths and let it come.
I have a couple of things I wanted to share with you about my kids. So that you know you are NOT alone.
My son David had the worse time nursing. No matter how much I tried, it would take 20 - 40 min to get him to latch on each side. I figure he had issues with his jaw. I use to get so upset, and frustrated that he just had so many issues with nursing. But I stuck with it, and he nursed for a year. I have worked with families that chose to switch over to bottles. And this was a good choice for them.
Try putting a drop of lavender oil on your collar, this will help you and the baby relax a little.
With my first child I thought I was the worse mother. I was told that new babies nursed every 2 hours for 5 - 10 min each side. This was 23 years ago. Well, Jessie wanted to nurse every 4 hours for 30 min each side. There was this nurse that told me I was "starving" my child. I died inside. I remember after my attempt to wake her up and feed her, I put her in the bassinet and rolled her down to the nursery and told the nurse there that I was a bad mother and did not deserve to have my baby. The nurse put her arm around me, and told me I was doing great. I then told her I as starving my daughter and she looked at the feeding chart that they had us do. She then told me that my daughter as a little pig and was doing great.
The rule of thumb is that as long as your little one is gaining, it is ok. Some children grow slower than others.
Take your time, and enjoy your little one. Don't worry as much, and if your heart tells you to get her checked then listen to your heart.
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K.T. answers from Portland on October 30, 2008
I can totally sympathize with you. I my daughter was born 7 weeks early and weighed 3 lbs. 1 oz. I pumped every 3 hours for the first 4 months! My breastmilk really never came in and I tried everything. I finally ditched the pump, breast fed exclusively, and began going to acupuncture. I had near immediate results in increasing my supply after the acupuncture. If your insurance doesn't cover it, some places offer a discount for certain insurance holders. Unfortunately, she decided to self-ween at 5 months. I was sad, but a little relieved to be rid of the pump and tons of stress over breast feeding.
Regarding your daughter's weight. My little girl has NEVER been on the charts. Since she was so early, we see a pediatric dietician in addition to other specialists. She has reassured us that she's got time to catch up. I'd ask your doctor about speaking with a pediatric dietician. In addition to breast milk, I mixed it with a high calorie formula mixture. She's now 7 months and right at 13 lbs. Slow going, but she's worth the wait...or weight!
I'd be happy to recommend my acupuncturist if you're in the Portland area!
K. T.
D.H. answers from Portland on October 31, 2008
A., just a little note. I struggled with this in the beginning and ruined my first few weeks enjoying my daughter by having postpartum, stress and no milk with the baby crying the whole time. I was determined to breast feed and in the end (after bloody nipples, no milk and 8 hour feedings) had to go with formula. Of course, from there it was finding something that didn't make her break out or sick. In the end it was rice milk, but she is happy and healthy now and we ended up just having one from the stress. I'm glad things worked out and I'm in awe of your determination. Good luck.
K.R. answers from Portland on October 31, 2008
heya :) ... our first was diagnosed with Failure to Thrive : P
two things:
1) mucous in the stool might be related to either a food sensitivity of some sort (watch what you eat and see if you can track down a culprit, and watch if it is timed with the formula) or lactose intolerance (sounds like not if you have her doing better now; breastmilk is high in lactose--lactose builds the brain, and we humans do a lot of brain building!!). (Food sensitivities: I've discovered that bananas cause green horrible baby poops, apples and pears cause gas, and citrus or tomatoes cause diaper rash ... pretty instantly in each case, in my kids ... )
2) We once saw a loss of B-6 after a vaccination. I have Utterly No Idea why that would have been related to the vaccination, but that was the only 'odd' thing going on in her life right then (I had my breastmilk tested and B-6 levels were fine). The ped gave her a shot of B-6 to restore her levels and we didn't have problems after that (but I don't vaccinate 'on schedule,' either). It was at that point that she stopped growing (Failure to Thrive was why he thought to test for B-6) ... the shot fixed it. If your daughter is back on track now, yay :)!, but this might be something to watch for ... dunno if you vaccinate. Oh.... now that I think of it, that vaccination was probably the one when she had the seizure (hence, we don't vaccinate on schedule) ... I wonder if the seizure-activity somehow used up her B-6 or turned off her body's absorption ... anyhow, again, dunno how it might be related, but something to watch for.
B.H. answers from Portland on October 31, 2008
You may want to see a gastroenterologist or discuss with your doctor the possibility of a (cow's) milk-protein allergy. It doesn't sound like your milk supply is the only problem here. The mucous in the stool is a concern.
You're doing great. Relax and trust your instincts.
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